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GAA Discussion / Re: Why is Camoige not called hurling?
« on: Today at 05:45:59 PM »
As for the OP question, I always found it odd that we have a different word for the female version of the same sport. Doesn't happen in soccer or lacrosse or hockey or anything. Can't think of another sport where this happens. I suppose it fits in with the kind of gender segregation that pious Catholic Ireland once foisted on youngsters.

Netball basically started as female basketball. And does every thread have to come back to bashing the Catholic church, Camogie was played in Ireland when female sports were not usual in many countries.

Where warranted, yes.

Well then let's keep it for when it is warranted and not threads like this which it has nothing to do with.

Grrr!  *shakes fist at church*

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GAA Discussion / Re: The GAA is inherently Sexist
« on: Today at 05:45:09 PM »
Now listen very carefully because this bears repeating.

Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.
Camogie and Ladies' football are not governed by the GAA.


Capiche?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why is Camoige not called hurling?
« on: Today at 04:20:11 PM »
So we have the origin but why is it still retained?

Tradition is only thing I see that has kept it as camogie and it is hard to rebrand anything that is associated with a particular subject for so long. Probably seen as being more genteel that hurling and thus differentiating it from one another

There are slight differences in rules between camogie and hurling but are slowly being synchronised with one another. eg 15 a side, pitch size but 45s not 65s size 4 ball not size 5 even for adults

Camogie goalkeepers wear the same shirt as they do not enjoy the same rules of protection compared to hurling goalkeepers in the small square as camogie is a non intentional contact sport. Incidental contact is allowed but deliberate contact such as the shoulder to shoulder charge (but it happens a lot mainly due to the influence of hurling coaches managing camogie teams and who  are not aware of the no deliberate contact aspect of the game)

Before Cusack formalised a set of rules for hurling there were many forms of "hurley" played throughout the country from "shinney" in Antrim Donegal  and what was known as "commons" which were played mainly in the winter. The form of hurling we know today was the from that was played mainly in the summer and prevailed mostly in Leinster and Munster under the patronage of the landed gentry

Like all sport it evolves from mostly being played on the ground to the possession game we have today just look how the shape of the caman has changed through the years

Round our way there's a townland called Aghacommon meaning "hurling field." The Commons game you mention was closer in appearance to Scottish Shinty.

I always thought the hurling-shinty could be played up more as a means of getting more northern protestants into the game. It's a part of their heritage that could use a revival.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why is Camoige not called hurling?
« on: Today at 04:16:17 PM »
As for the OP question, I always found it odd that we have a different word for the female version of the same sport. Doesn't happen in soccer or lacrosse or hockey or anything. Can't think of another sport where this happens. I suppose it fits in with the kind of gender segregation that pious Catholic Ireland once foisted on youngsters.

Netball basically started as female basketball. And does every thread have to come back to bashing the Catholic church, Camogie was played in Ireland when female sports were not usual in many countries.

Where warranted, yes.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why is Camoige not called hurling?
« on: March 27, 2017, 08:21:37 PM »
Indy and Milwaukee call it hurling even though they play co-ed in their pub leagues. Works well too. Only when they send teams to the USGAA finals do they start dividing up by gender.

As for the OP question, I always found it odd that we have a different word for the female version of the same sport. Doesn't happen in soccer or lacrosse or hockey or anything. Can't think of another sport where this happens. I suppose it fits in with the kind of gender segregation that pious Catholic Ireland once foisted on youngsters.

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General discussion / Re: Unseen Presentation
« on: March 27, 2017, 05:12:03 PM »
Is there a Toastmasters club near you? I find the Table Topics great practice for on-your-feet thinking and improv.

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General discussion / Re: RTÉ
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:37:33 PM »
Last time I looked at the schedule on RTE2 (do they still call it "Network 2?"), most of the day would have been spent watching non-Irish produced content. You'd only hear an Irish accent in the ads and continuity.

I gave up trying to watch their online stuff ages ago. Too much buffering.

I happen to be a supporter of public broadcasting and I'd hate to see the license fee abolished. They have public broadcasting here in the states but it's all very low budget and has to go begging to the viewers and listeners for a few weeks every year during excruciating "pledge drives" where they sit there for ten minutes at a time repeating themselves about why you should make a donation.

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General discussion / Re: "the kids are alright!!??"
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:26:25 PM »
Can't speak for all Catholic schools but from secondary school years 1-3 we got what I think was the early part of GCSE history which was very much English-centric once you got out of the middle ages. (I didn't go on to do history for the last 2 years, but in hindsight I should have.)

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General discussion / Re: Lurgan
« on: March 25, 2017, 12:05:42 AM »
Correct me if i'm wrong but if you're from one of the 7 Derry's then you're officially a Munchie...

Derrymacash
Derrytrasna
Derryadd
Derrymore
Derrycrowe

Whats the other 2...can't remember...Is Derryloiste one?
Derrycor.

Derryloiste would probably be one, but I think most people just call that area Kinnego.

Derrymore's out Aghagallon/Aghalee way.

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General discussion / Re: "the kids are alright!!??"
« on: March 25, 2017, 12:03:18 AM »
Is this why the unionists are so dead set against the maze historical museum. are they afraid what went on if put on display to e.g. School groups that it will make them vote Sinn Fein?

The unionists would like history to go over 1690, then pause until 1923 where it resumes. The Troubles would be explained as "all was rosy in the Ulster garden until the IRA sprang into existence for no reason and just went on a bloody rampage."

It's how they think.

Is there no hope for them eamon?

Not for the current generation of older politicians there isn't. If younger ones can come around to more of a Trevor Ringland sort of attitude then we can get somewhere. Hard to see that happening as long as half the taxpayer-funded education system is outsourced to the catholic church though.

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General discussion / Re: "the kids are alright!!??"
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:15:16 PM »
Is this why the unionists are so dead set against the maze historical museum. are they afraid what went on if put on display to e.g. School groups that it will make them vote Sinn Fein?

The unionists would like history to go over 1690, then pause until 1923 where it resumes. The Troubles would be explained as "all was rosy in the Ulster garden until the IRA sprang into existence for no reason and just went on a bloody rampage."

It's how they think.

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General discussion / Re: Lurgan
« on: March 24, 2017, 10:37:15 PM »

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General discussion / Re: "the kids are alright!!??"
« on: March 24, 2017, 06:49:05 PM »
We were taught the same. Ancient history was interesting, good to know about the Greeks, the Romans, the Persians and so on. But when it got to "modern" history it started in 1485 at the Battle of Bosworth Field and it was all about the English kings thereafter. Luckily we had a teacher who spent a few weeks teaching about Irish history even though it wasn't on the syllabus. It was by far the most interesting part of the course, even though it wasn't official.

Learning about British history is all well and good, but it shouldn't have been at the expense of knowing about the land we lived on.

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General discussion / Re: Lurgan
« on: March 24, 2017, 04:07:18 PM »
Interesting fact: there's a place beside Lurgan called the Munchies.

Spelt Montiaghs though.


I'm from there myself.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: March 24, 2017, 03:59:31 PM »
Who the f**k is this Tucker Carlson twat? Watch this space in the coming years for a new breed of Fox News fear mongering.

Tucker Carlson is an up and coming star on Fox news, he is an excellent interviewer and he has skewered a few people both left and right during some of his interviews.

Just because he is right of centre does not make him a twat!

Au contraire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

Jon Stewart made a little boy of Carlson, put a stop to him wearing that stupid bow tie, and killed that show. That's an iconic 15 minutes of TV.

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