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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 05:20:49 AM »
Trump has already broken Nixon’s record for the number of criminal indictments. “Witch-hunt” my ass.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: Today at 05:07:28 AM »
A million people marching in London demanding a people’s vote. Is it just me or is that bigger than the poll tax protest?

Heseltine’s speech was one for the ages. It’s a sin that he never got to be PM. I was never a Tory fan but I always admired Heseltine.

https://youtu.be/Y8oWrF2CXF8

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: March 22, 2019, 09:26:45 PM »
It's Mueller time!

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: March 22, 2019, 08:20:52 PM »
God sent Trump to save the Jewish people according to Pompeo

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435240-pompeo-says-its-possible-trump-was-sent-to-save-jewish-people

Transcript
Interviewer: Today’s being Purim, a celebration of Jews worldwide, and here in Jerusalem we’re talking about the fact that Esther, 2500 years ago, saved the Jewish people, with God’s help from Haman, and now, 2500 years later, there’s a new Haman here in the Middle East, that wants to eradicate the Jewish people just like Haman did, the state of Iran (Pompeo nods knowingly).  Could it be that President T***p right now, has been sort of raised for a time like this, just like Queen Esther, to help save the Jewish people from an Iranian menace?

Pompeo: As a Christian, I certainly believe that’s possible.  It was remarkable, so we were down down into the tunnels, where we could see 3,000 years ago, and 2,000 years ago, if I have the history just right, to see the remarkable history of the faith in this place, and the work that our administration has done to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East of this Jewish state remains.  I’m confident that the Lord is at work here.

God help us.

Although it's interesting to see that Aipac has become a distinctly conservative gathering, which is in line with Israel's lurch to the right. The days of bipartisan loyalty to Israel would seem to be over. There's only so much mileage conservatives can get out of playing the bogus antisemitism card every time someone criticizes Israeli apartheid.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:06:05 PM »
Sorry lads. My point was when Mark Hamilton stood outside the Greenvale he mentioned some attendees being underage. Call me cynical but I just felt they were washing their hands off it - acting as if they didn't know. As for crowd control etc, over the years cops cars have came into the Greenvale car park. I can definitely remember that from going to socials. They didn't appear overly worried with line ups then.

The cops where never around the greenvale in my memory for obvious reasons. Maybe back when they wanted trouble but not in my time (the early 00's) I remember hearing that a mother had rang the police to ask to go up to sort out some fighting and they refused as they said that they would only make things worst which was probably the right call.

Reminds me of a caller on Talkback years ago. Some thugs were causing trouble at a parade, so he went to the cops and told them about it. The cops refused to intervene, saying "sure if we tried to do anything about it, they'd just wreck the town."

Makes you wonder what's the point of having law enforcement if they're not going to bother their heads enforcing the law. Only in Ireland do I ever see this defeatist attitude from cops.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:39:25 PM »
Not sure if already mentioned but surely the police have to be held accountable here. The dogs on the street knew about underage drinking at the greenvale this past 20 years.

Ah look, I'm no lover of the police but they've more important things to be at than a weekly raid of every bar in every town in the country. It is what it is. The police can't be held accountable for young ones getting steamed before they even set foot in/on a premises. Simply can't be done - the horse has bolted on that. It's simply unavoidable at this stage - I mean I've seen police shut down bars in Dungannon/Cookstown and Omagh over Easter Sunday but bar that - that's it. They simply don't have the numbers for what is a task that is well, well down the list.

I don't mean that to sound in any way disrespectful to the victims - nor do I intend to cause offence but whilst I get your point, what realistically can be done bar forming local groups and policing the matter themselves? Maybe that's something they talk of at these policing board meetings (do they even happen anymore?) I couldn't tell you.

Then what do the police think their job is? If they're not going to do it then what's the point in having them?

Vigilante groups is hardly the answer.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:38:23 PM »
Not sure if already mentioned but surely the police have to be held accountable here. The dogs on the street knew about underage drinking at the greenvale this past 20 years.
I’d like to think that even the police have better things to be at than annoying young people having a few drinks.

"Young people having a few drinks" turns towns into the wild west on weekend nights. Walk up the Portadown Rd in Lurgan, and as soon as you walk over the top of that overpass you're taking your life in your hands.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 04:23:14 PM »
Perhaps when the dust settles on this tragic event, we can have a serious conversation about the drinking culture in Ireland, not only among young people, but in general.  The utter dependency on alcohol is frightening -even check out the t-shirts on those hen night girls and you can see that virtually all our down time with friends is spent in the company of alcohol and we have a crazy obsession with it.  400 people in a car park is not a risk and should never be a risk, but young people getting off buses, tanked up, drunk and possibly many having taken cocaine and suddenly the vulnerability of those at the front and those who are smaller and lighter can be understood.  We also need to realise that parents allowing their children to have fake ID is not good parenting.  This was an 18+ disco.  If so, why was there a crowd of 400 children of 16 and under in that car park?  Why did parents let them out?  Did parents know they were drinking?  Are parents so stupid as to turn a blind eye to their children drinking at that age?  The thing that drives me mad is the old story - 'sure we all did it when we were their age'.,  This is why there needs to be a serious culture change in this country, starting with a bit of soul searching as to how we interpret St. Patrick's Day. Around six dead at the last count. Arresting the hotel owner is just typical of an attitude that will seek to punish a man for putting on an event, checking ID and assuming they were all over 18, therefore selling alcohol, while the parents, the bus drivers, the off licence owners and the teenagers themselves will go scot free.

This is a great point.

I started my drinking career at 16. My nephew came along years later and did the same, but with a difference. In my day the drinking was done out of sight of our parents or any adult supervision, usually behind a hedge in a field near some off-license where they didn't check IDs. When my nephew started drinking, it was around the pool table in my brother's garage with his friends. Not directly under supervision, but close enough for his parents to keep tabs on things if necessary, which is enough to stop anything from getting out of hand. I think his way was better.

I don't think the age at which people start drinking is the issue, I think it's more important that alcohol is consumed in a responsible manner, which means in a responsible quantity and for social reasons rather than substance abuse reasons.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: March 19, 2019, 05:03:16 PM »
Almost by default there's going to be a delay now, how long for, we'll know more after EU summit meeting later in the week. Based on that, May might have another go at her agreement (MV3) next week, claiming that something has materially changed to it. If *that's* defeated, then it's anyone's guess. Probably a longer delay, maybe hold EU elections, maybe a GE, perhaps even MV4. As I've said previously, anything that delays it for as long as possible is a good thing.

Don't you just love Bercow? A Remainer, he's refused to be cowed by any side, and is playing strictly by the rules. Almost certainly he'll be knifed in the back if Brexit is ever sorted out, and may not get a seat in the House of Lords which Speakers usually receive. It doesn't bother him a whit. That Brexiteer utter numpty Andrea Leadsom hates him.

He's played a blinder here. Top drawer. He's the most sensible man in the house, and he may go down in history as one of the agents of Brexit's downfall.

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General discussion / Re: Formula 1
« on: March 19, 2019, 04:09:45 PM »
Leclerc going to Ferrari the year. He'll go far, that lad.

Have you any more wonderful insights?  ::)

Yes I do. He reminds me of Senna. Getting into a big team like that in his second year in F1 is impressive, don't you think?

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 19, 2019, 04:07:48 PM »
Terrible tragedy. Cannot even begin to imagine what the families are going through.

Like a lot of people on here Cookstown would have been a regular location for me back in the late nineties although strangely enough never to the Greenvale. Glenavon/Clubland were the normal destinations.

The Pink Pussycat. Those were the days.

There used to be buses to good venues back in my day. The Arena used to be a regular haunt of ours thanks to the two buses they ran from Lurgan. I used to bump into people I worked with in Belfast, they'd get a bus down from the Donegal Rd. And there were times when some of us would take matters into their own hands and organise buses to the likes of the Carrickdale. I'd rather have young ones getting buses to these places than ripping and tearing around the country in cars, plus the bus was always good crack and was as much a part of the night as the club itself.

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General discussion / Re: Formula 1
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:54:47 AM »
Leclerc going to Ferrari the year. He'll go far, that lad.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:41:34 AM »
One more thing:



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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:05:57 AM »
That's Trump's game plan. Pile the f**k-ups so high it'd take all day to read through them. Same as how he piles the lies up so high it'd take all day to refute them. Why do you think his lie rate has increased from 18 false or misleading statements per day to 22 false or misleading statements per day? Why do you think he's going for the indictment record?

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 18, 2019, 05:03:51 PM »
I wonder if this will signal the end of the era of the wink-and-nod when 16 year-olds get into 18+ events. I remember starting my nightlife career at 16, we used to think it was because we happened to look 18. In hindsight, in the places we went to I'd say nearly half were underage, and ID checks were rare, probably because they were happy to sell drink to all comers. Occasionally the bouncers would give us the "bring ID next time or you can't get in" speech, but they never followed up on it.

I wonder if it'll lead to a change in crowd control regulations for events like this. People don't always grasp how dangerous large crowds can be. It doesn't take many people to apply a lot of pressure that can be deadly for people at the front. It needs to be taken seriously. It's one of the reasons why I'm okay with the scrapping of the tradition of the Croke Park pitch invasion. I know it's nice to get on the field and all, but if it were allowed to continue for much longer it would have been a matter of time before something bad happened. "Health and safety" is often used a euphemism for overcautious killjoys, but there are real reasons why we have it.

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