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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: Today at 09:19:12 AM »
I know the title of the thread is Gaelic Football RIP and a lot of posters are commenting about losing their love of the game.
Reading through a lot of the posts it is all about the inter county game and it is all from the spectators viewpoint.

There is no doubt attendances are dropping at inter county level due to many reasons. I know for me it is the cost of attending games, along with other commitments is the reason that I can't attend as many games as I would like.
I don't see less attending club games. Is everyone talking about county level, because if you are the thread title is misleading and confusing the issue.

One sort of feeds the other. Intercounty football can inspire young lads/ladies to start playing the game. I know from Mayo's decent runs the last couple of years, I've seen Parents who were never interested in Football bring their kids to the local club.

Does coverage of the Champions League and Premiership make young lads want to play soccer for the local club?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 14, 2018, 10:28:45 PM »
11 a side is the only answer.

Close the thread.

It'd be gas looking at O'Callaghan, Kilkenny and 2 hops McManaman taking their 8 steps with oceans of space in that scenario.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 10:26:09 PM »
Never thought I'd say that but the dubs hammering everyone is a real turn off


Especially when it is structural

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0813/984824-the-awkward-irony-of-gaas-attendance-problem/



On the eve of Dublin's defeat to Westmeath in the 2004 Leinster championship, the Irish Independent carried an article entitled 'Shock Dubs defeat would spell disaster for Croke Park'.
The article made plain that Dublin were "the top money spinners, so if they were to lose tomorrow and crash out of the All-Ireland qualifiers at an early stage, it would have serious repercussions for the GAA's finances which are already under severe pressure due to the 100 million Croke Park debt."
Quoted extensively in the article, then Leinster Council chairman Michael Delaney was surprisingly open about admitting that the GAA financial position would be immeasurably healthier if Dublin did not to slip up against Westmeath.   

It was in this context that the well documented funding splurge in Dublin GAA was commenced, as addressed by Tom Ryan, Sean Kelly and Paraic Duffy in recent years.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0417/955246-10-questions-for-the-gaas-new-director-general/
The first thing I’ve always said to people about Dublin is that the money is going into clubs in that county, not into the county set-up. Now clearly there’s a correlation and clearly the fact that county teams are doing well is a function of what the clubs are doing.
"There was a bit of rebalancing and we did adjust Dublin a little bit but the job was always to augment funding elsewhere. So Belfast is a case in point. It’s the second city on the island and it behooves us to make sure that Gaelic games is in a healthy state there.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/821780029310898178/video/1

Ah sure we need a strong Dublin to have a strong GAA!

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 14, 2018, 08:55:03 PM »
Ah well that was a like a slow death at the end. Europa League here we come!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 08:32:13 PM »
Tyrone are a good to average team. No more! They have not had a big scalp in a long time. Finals and semi finals have been reached beating Monaghan. Any time Mayo, Kerry or Dublin got in the way they were put to the sword.

Ah sure, if we lose the final then we’ll have matched the level achieved by the greatest team Mayo have produced in 50 odd years, which will be a great source of pride to us. As you lads must know, it’s great to be there just to make up the numbers on the big day and sure, we won’t be the first team to take a hammering in an AI final.

Ye might be the first to take a hammering from this Dublin team in a final. ;)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 08:30:56 PM »
Can anyone from Dublin/Mayo/Kerry/Donegal tell me where their season tickets were at for finals for the last few years? Do they be in 304-306 area or were you moved anywhere else for the final??

Cusack 309 in 2017 row c

Cusack 301 in 2016 Replay 3/4 back

Cusack 309 in 2016 right up at the back



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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:55:02 PM »
Tyrone are a good to average team. No more! They have not had a big scalp in a long time. Finals and semi finals have been reached beating Monaghan. Any time Mayo, Kerry or Dublin got in the way they were put to the sword.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:48:34 PM »
The problem for Tyrone is that if they are so used to the blanket defence and defending with numbers that their defenders don't have to defend man to man.

They literally went man-for-man on Sunday with Colm Cav in there as a sweeper - the lads at half-time even made a point of pointing it out.

Did you even watch the game?

Big difference between Monaghan and Dublin's forward line.

Very hard watching the game last sunday. It was close, but the standard was very poor. One of the problems with modern day football is teams are picking forwards who can run all day and scoring threat is of secondary importance. Some of the attempts on goal on Sunday by the tyrone forwards were shockingly bad.

There's no way Tyrone  can go man on man against Dublin. They'd be destroyed. If they sit back like normal they get picked off and lose anyway. Expecting a 6 point Dublin win

Cant shoot, cant defend, gonna be destroyed, blah blah.

Gavin's arrogance permeating everything Dublin

In fairness ye are going to be destroyed!

Ack sure we’ll do our best. Lookit, we’re just happy to be there. Might even get a few pictures with the Dublin players if we are lucky.

The truth be told. Ye are just happy to be there. At a few stages this year it looked unlikely.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:44:43 PM »
Maybe, maybe not. Like ye too Dublin to the hilt last year and we absolutely destroyed you a few months later in Castlebar so there's some hope for us to at least give them a game. Sure isn't that all we can hope for. ;)

Who has not destroyed Mayo in Castlebar?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:40:42 PM »
The problem for Tyrone is that if they are so used to the blanket defence and defending with numbers that their defenders don't have to defend man to man.

They literally went man-for-man on Sunday with Colm Cav in there as a sweeper - the lads at half-time even made a point of pointing it out.

Did you even watch the game?

Big difference between Monaghan and Dublin's forward line.

Very hard watching the game last sunday. It was close, but the standard was very poor. One of the problems with modern day football is teams are picking forwards who can run all day and scoring threat is of secondary importance. Some of the attempts on goal on Sunday by the tyrone forwards were shockingly bad.

There's no way Tyrone  can go man on man against Dublin. They'd be destroyed. If they sit back like normal they get picked off and lose anyway. Expecting a 6 point Dublin win

Cant shoot, cant defend, gonna be destroyed, blah blah.

Gavin's arrogance permeating everything Dublin

In fairness ye are going to be destroyed! No result in the last 3 years tells me otherwise.

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General discussion / Re: The John Aldridge/Sunday World Comedy Thread
« on: August 14, 2018, 04:12:21 PM »
Ah Aldo is a professional scouser, playing to his audience. Everyones gotta make a crust.

Yes, he is there to tell the Irish Liverpool fans what they want to hear. Roy Curtis does the same with the Dubs Football/Leinster Rugby/Dubs Hurling/Irish International Soccer/Munster Rugby/Aintree/Olympic Boxing - He's like us all has an opinion on everything popular!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 14, 2018, 02:10:05 PM »
Hard to know if it is the standard or the lack of hope? Hope is what all counties should have at the beginning of every year. I used to get excited about Championship even when we had little hope. I used to be interested in how other counties were getting on even when my own was out or still in the Championship. I used to love the Trips to Croker. Feck I used to love going to the see the other halfs county.

The Super 8 only prolonged the agony this season. Trying to take more money from the genuine fan. It was put in place to take advantage of the biggest cash cow - Mayo. Sadly for the GAA Mayo failed to make the Super 8's and thus a huge windfall was lost.

I said this last year. The Super 8 would be a failure. The main reason is that we have a Super 1, a decent 5 and a fell across the line 2. Intensity is lost in a league format.

Quarter finals should be straight knockout!

It's been a long time since I've missed so many games that were televised, going to games involving Mayo that I never miss. I deleted my Season Ticket a/c this season before the Galway match. These days I have better things to be doing. Maybe I'm just getting older? Maybe this was just a fad?

I'm still involved in coaching. Love watching underage games involving my club.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 14, 2018, 12:25:09 PM »
Fans who are hoping to attend the All-Ireland football and hurling finals will need to buy separate tickets for babies or young infants that are travelling with them.

etc.

This was always the way, don't know why they're raising Cain about it now. Leave the child at home if you have to or let Mom stay at home too.

I have no problem with AI finals. That is a correct call. But semi-finals are usually a family day! Having to dish out extra money for a young child is a disgrace.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 14, 2018, 12:09:02 PM »
Fans who are hoping to attend the All-Ireland football and hurling finals will need to buy separate tickets for babies or young infants that are travelling with them.

Tickets will be at a premium for the upcoming decider between Dublin and Tyrone in the All-Ireland SFC decider, as well as the clash between Galway and Limerick in the corresponding hurling fixture.

All fans will need an individual ticket for those fixtures at Croke Park as outlined under the terms and conditions on the official GAA website.

"For 'all-ticket' events every person [including infants] entering the venue must have a ticket. Please note all events in Croke Park are 'all-ticket'," it says.

Tyrone supporter Caoimhe Hill McCann brought her 16-week-old son Connla to the All-Ireland SFC semi-final against Monaghan on Sunday, which was his seventh game to attend this season.

McCann told RTÉ Sport that she didn't require a ticket for her son when attending previous fixtures at venues this year including Omagh, Carlow, Navan and Ballybofey. She also said she was not aware that a baby would need a ticket for all-ticket games.

But when she approached the turnstiles at Croke Park, she was stopped along with her husband Johnny and informed that their baby - who his mother was carrying in a sling - would require a ticket.

"There was a young girl taking tickets and she asked if we had a third ticket. We thought she was joking thinking that he didn't need a ticket for him yet. She told us we couldn't get access without a ticket for him," she said.

"She went and got her supervisor and he came to the turnstiles to speak to us and said there was no entry without a ticket. We told him he didn't need a seat and that he would be attached to me but they said that was irrelevant and told us we needed to go down and buy him a ticket."

The McCanns were assisted by stewards to obtain a ticket for the last-four tie but the delay in gaining entry resulted in them missing the first 10 minutes of the game.

They will also need a ticket for the baby when Tyrone take on Dublin in the All-Ireland final.

"You don't want to be buying a ticket for the baby if it means that somebody else is going to lose out. I just think the way it works needs to be reviewed," she added.

Speaking to RTÉ Sport, the GAA's Director of Communications Alan Milton explained that all spectators require a ticket for ticket-based fixtures due to health and safety reasons.

"It's a long-held practise and most people would be aware of it because we put it in the public domain every now and then."

"Every person coming to the stadium requires a ticket. It's for health and safety and it's just best practise. It has to be black and white for health and safety reasons."

By contrast, the IRFU Director of Communications Stephen McNamara told RTÉ Sport that babies under two years of age do not require a ticket for Ireland internationals at the Aviva grounds as outlined on the stadium's website.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:52:57 PM »
Time to go back to straight knock-out manly football.
We were all happier then.

The present format that drags out a competition of half meaningless games toward the latter part, with Dublin inevitably winning is the best!

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