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GAA Discussion / Re: Can we help out a local soccer club?
« on: September 15, 2020, 12:27:48 PM »
Are you sure the club grounds are vested in the GAA. If not, then it has no jurisdiction over them. Then, insurance coverage may also be a factor.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: September 07, 2020, 10:13:11 AM »
Boris Johnson shocks everyone by not keeping his word. >:(

Those pricks will screw us here. You can see it coming - it's just a matter of how not if IMO.

Probably Dominic Cummings' doings. BoJo is too thick and indolent to come up with an idea like this on his own.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: September 06, 2020, 08:32:06 PM »
One of the most notable achievements of an Irish sportsperson this year and not a mention of it in the RTE sports page. Rally driver Craig Breen matched his best ever result in a WRC event, finishing second by a narrow margin to home favourite and reigning world champion, Estonian Ott Tanak. The winner was fortunate to survive a late slide and held on to win by 22 seconds. Super drive by Breen in a rare outing in a works Hyundai car, one that should hopefully keep in the eye of team managers. No Irish driver has ever won a WRC event, so this was the closest we've been.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: September 06, 2020, 08:24:14 PM »
Feel sorry for them, they trying to play but they just don't have the quality

Sorry for them? They're well-paid professionals by any standards and they can scarcely pass the ball to a teammate, a rudimentary requirement of the sport. Bar the absolute minnows, e.g. Gibraltar, Andorra, there's hardly a team in Europe that doesn't show us up in some form as being thoroughly abject. I wish Kenny well and I hope that the FAI back him for a few years in the hope that he may improve the overall standard by some measurement.

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: September 02, 2020, 10:31:01 AM »
Comrade Duch, butcher-in-chief of the Cambodian Khmer Rouge regime.

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General discussion / Re: Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best
« on: August 31, 2020, 04:05:34 PM »
Hold on... could it be....  do you think it's possible...??

Angelo =  TONY FEARON ????


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General discussion / Re: Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best
« on: August 28, 2020, 11:08:43 PM »
So you're saying you'd have Nedved and Shevchenko over 91 goals and 22 assists 2012 Messi??

I'm saying Messi is a bit of a flat track bully, he's a very good one trick pony but we've seen that he can't do it in adversity.

Look how he crumbles with a star studded Argentina, every time.

And as I've said countless times before, it's a lot easier to look good in the era Ronaldo and Messi peaked in.

It's similar as to how Federer stopped winning slams when Nadal and Djokovic turned up. Competition changes things, there's not a striker in the game today as good as a peak Sheva/Batistuta/Ronaldo/Vieri, nor a midfielder in the game today as good as a peak Nedved or Redondo - none are even close. There's no goalkeeper around as good as a peak Buffon, no full back around who could rival Zanetti/Cafu, no centre back in the same league as Nesta, Maldini, Thuram and so on and so forth.

Lewandowski would have won the Ballon d'Or this year if it had been handed out, he's a great player but he's not in the same level as a peak Sheva and that shows why Messi and Ronaldo have dominated the football scene for the past decade - it has been weak.

So post all the stats up you guys want, they don't change the context.

Messi should always be judged with his record for the national side at major tournaments a major asterisk over him.

The real Ronaldo won a World Cup by himself when he came back from 2 years out with a knee injury. That knee injury that he came back from robbed him of his explosiveness, he was about 70% of the player he was, yet it did not stop him from achieve greatness.

The Brazilian Ronaldo is the greatest of all time, certainly up there with Maradona anyway.

Vieri?????  Is that the 40m clod who missed an absolute sitter for Italy v South Korea in 2002 and cost them a chance to progress? Some International-level player he..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62B0UBFUdk0
If International achievement is the only metric, then Paulo Rossi is the greatest striker of all time.

Put down the Internet for a while Angelo, take time away.

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General discussion / Re: Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best
« on: August 28, 2020, 11:01:35 PM »
Nedved was a very good player, but to elevate him *far* above such as Zidane, Savicevic, Hagi, Iniesta, Zavi, Stojkovic, Pirlo etc. etc. (and these are just his own-era contemporaries) is plain bonkers.

CR7 deserves his place in the pantheon of the greats, but there can be no comparison between he and Messi. Peak-Messi in the early years of this decade was extraordinary; almost weekly doing for Barce' what Maradona did for the Argies in '86. Watch his performance the night they shredded a star-studded Madrid team 5-0 at the Nou Camp.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/16/my-favourite-game-barcelona-real-madrid-la-liga-2010-messi-mourinho-guardiola

Saying Messi never did it at International level is a red herring. Despite having the best side in the tournament, Pekerman fatally undermined it in 2006 with bizarre use of subs and leaving a young Messi benched.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/worldcup2006blog/2006/jun/30/argentinablowitwithcrazys#comment-399711

Maradona was manager in 2010, enough said. Despite not being fully fit in 2014, Messi still guided them to the final that year, and may well have won a very tight game had that lumbering lug Higuain not eschewed a golden chance. 2018, many of the team were past their peak.

If Messi never did it at International level, then he joins those other greats Puskas, Di Stefano, Eusebio, Best, Cryuff, Platini etc.

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Stop press - throw in Kate Hoey also.

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Eoghan Harris
Brendan O'Connor
Jacob Rees-Mogg

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General discussion / Re: The SDLP
« on: July 22, 2020, 10:30:52 AM »
I disagree - people need to decide they want to accept the north as part of the Irish nation as a matter of principle first, only then can there be a discussion on how to best make it work.
I read this post, indeed this whole thread damn near, and to paraphrase Robbie Burns:
"O, wad some Power the giftie gie youse, To see Themmuns as they see themsels!"

I mean, "People need to decide they want to accept the north [sic] as part of the Irish nation"...

When are Nationalists (ROI and NI) going to recognise that a UI is not within their gift to accept/deliver/negotiate/coerce or anything else?

The GFA made it crystal clear that the only way there will be a UI is if a majority of people in NI voting for it in a referendum. And effectively, that means the Unionist people voting for it, as follows.

Basically, as eg the Scottish Independence or Brexit votes demonstrated, such Referenda are not about politics, they are about Identity.

And as far as Unionists are concerned, No Union = No Unionism = No Unionists. Therefore in the absence of some overriding, irresistable reason, why would we want to erase our own British identity and vote ourselves out of existence?

etc.

A good and reasoned post, but can you ever explain why you want to belong to an 'edifice' that is almost utterly ignorant and indifferent to your existence or fate, and one which is in itself pulling asunder through a bonkers-Brexit sense of exceptionalism and nationalism? When the DUP went 'confidence and supply' with the Tories in 2017, a lot of the British press scarcely knew who they were and called them 'Irish'. At least if you 'turn your head south' you'd be more assured of a warmer welcome.

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Askance Big Jack memories;

Crap football, freezing out Dave O'Leary for years, Harry Ramsden challenge, getting snippy on air when Michael Lyster asked him why we couldn't beat Liechenstein.

In fairness to Jack, he got in fairly early on Saipan and said on Saturday Night Live Late Late (or whatever) -  'Roy is wrong. I don't want anyone feeling sorry for him. He's wrong'.

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General discussion / Re: Live Aid Wembley
« on: July 14, 2020, 11:58:51 AM »
Queen were c***ts. Apartheid-propping up soup takers, music for people who hate music.

Bono's performance during Bad changed Ireland. It was quite shocking to see an Irishman get up there in front of the world without the merest trace of self doubt, and demonstrate in plain terms that U2 were the greatest band in the world. It was a remarkable, life changing performance, simultaneously full to the brim with anger and joy. He nailed it in outrageous fashion.

The decade of change in Ireland that was to follow started at that moment.

A good take on it. For all their popularity, Bohemian Rhapsody aside, Queen were a musically largely-irrelevant band I've always thought. Loved by the kind of people who read the Sunday World and play darts in the pubs on Sunday afternoons.

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What I mean is that the country went daft back then, thronging the pubs, cavalcades in the streets, inflatable hammers etc. Yes, of course it was our first world cup, but essentially we were celebrating, if not mediocrity, then ordinariness. The only game we won was on penos, and as I've said, the football we played was soporific. Our displays in '94, with the honourable exception of Italy, were just the same. (Was there a home-coming in 2002 which would have been more justified? I can't remember...) In what was technically at least their first world cup, Croatia finished third; Holland and Belgium have larger populations than us, but not on the scale of Germany, France, Spain, England etc. and have achieved much at world cups.

I've little time for Roy Keane, but I don't wonder that he gets vexed when he sees us celebrating when we lose, draw or are knocked out of a tournament (cf. 2012). Should he be successful tomorrow, Aidan O'Brien will break the record for English Derby triumphs. Will we be looking back on it with nostalgia in 30 years time?

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