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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:

« on: January 15, 2019, 02:46:23 PM »

I think it's fair to say De Gea hasn't had his best season this season, but personally if I'd a choice of any goalkeeper, he'd be on my team.

I only saw the second half of the Spurs match, but I thought it a bit odd that Gary Neville seemed reluctant to give him praise for all the saves he was making! Not that GN was totally incorrect in saying some of the finishing could have been better, but I thought he was a bit harsh on De Gea.

I dont think any of the saves he made were in the outstanding category. I think probably his level is catching up with him a bit there unfairly. Any other keeper made that amount of saves in a game it would be headline news, its because he makes the average saves look exactly that.....average, that makes them pass with little or no fuss.

He will be no different to any other player in the squad in wanting to prove his worth to the team under the new management and this seems to be driving the mini revival.

Martial's form still a worry I thought he would burst out of the shackles under Ole but he still seems to be holding a little back, hopefully he will progress with the team as the new system get embedded.

+1.  My thoughts after the game were that De Gea played well but the saves required were straight forward.   

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club mass

« on: January 14, 2019, 10:48:31 AM »

I'm sure its no big deal if you go or not. 

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

« on: January 03, 2019, 11:16:23 PM »

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/11598043/jermain-defoe-to-join-rangers-on-18-month-loan-deal

Some signing for the Gers.

Rodgers may put the foot down with the Celtic Board now. They were outclassed last week. Defoe, albeit 36 years old will be lethal in the SPL!

I'd say SG is pushing hard now after the last Old Firm result.  He'll be bending the ear of the board looking for reinforcements like this and S Davis also going back.  Adding experience and goalacoring for the final drive.

I hope Lawell is watching on.  He'll need to splash the cash now and crush this mini rebellion or he'll never live it down.

Would Joe Harte be willing togo to Celtic as he seems frozen out?  What wages would he be on anyway...even a loan deal for 18 months?

Gordon isn't great but eff right off with Hart!
Great forward planning by Rangers, a 36 and a 33 year old! What happens if they don't win the league? When is the last time a player came to Scotland from England and scored a shed load? There are numerous examples of players failing in Scotland and being relatively successful elsewhere. FFS Darryl Murphy is still cutting about the Championship.

Exactly - Ian Wright came to Celtic around Defoe's age and didn't score a pile in Scotland and as you say there are more examples. Davis going back would be like Aiden McGeady going back around that age. how would that have worked out?

Davis is a quality player and alot better than McGeady.

Is anyone else secretly worried that Rangers will actually win the league!

I hope they do. Celtic fans are hard to listen to.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: January 03, 2019, 09:58:01 PM »

Nobody knows how it works up here. Inconsistent, lenient sentences are the norm. You even get a chance to skip jail if you are fat. Even those out on license are confusing; I remember a few years ago Torrens knight battered two sisters while out on licence, however his licence wasnt revoked and he did a lock of weeks. Yet there are others who get their license revoked for a lot less.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: January 03, 2019, 10:52:01 AM »

There has been some crazy sentences handed out over the years.  As mentioned previously though, the one last week where a fella who raped two children was freed from jail after just 3 weeks because he's too 'vulnerable' in prison.  He only got 1 year too.

Or cases like someone on here mentioned the other day where sentences are downgraded for some reason.  I remember one in Lurgan years ago where a few known hoods savagely beat and threw a schoolboy (on his way home) off the top of a block of flats and got manslaughter and was released after just 3 years I think.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: January 02, 2019, 10:14:59 PM »

What’s the issue with it. A combination order and extended ban for drink driving seems appropriate to me from what’s described in the article.

16 months for killing two people.....you think that's appropriate?

Oh sorry I thought you were referring to the subsequent drink drive sentence 6 years later. That’s what I was referring to. In so far as the sentence you were talking about there’s a few things that strike me about that. Firstly it was death by careless driving which carries a maximum sentence of 5 years and in fact has only carried prison at all for the last ten years. With a starting point of a non custodial sentence after trial for a first time offender. That will obviously depend on the culpability of the driver. In that regard therefore the sentence he got would have been on the harsher end of the usual sentence for such an offence. That said the article seems to suggest that the driving was very poor and possibly should have been dangerous driving which would have carried a likely sentence of 7-8 years.

So before I could really comment I’d need to know a bit more about the original case in terms of why careless, was it a plea or a jury decision etc

A girl I knew was one of two girls killed as a result of a drunk driver going down the wrong way on the M1. The drunk driver only served 2 years. Incredible really.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016

« on: January 02, 2019, 07:26:58 PM »

Does anybody remember the name of the young African footballer who was making a name for himself a few years ago. Think he might have been from Mayo or somwhere in the west.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: January 01, 2019, 06:49:43 PM »

I would prefer that those sent to prison are 'employed'  in something constructive rather than locked in a cell for 23 hours.....but again I say as it stands prison is no deterrent.

No you are quite right however criminologists will tell you that no prison system in the world is a particularly good deterrent.

True, the death penalty hasn't stopped America having the largest prison population rate.

People will commit crime irrelevant of the deterrent. In my opinion prisons should be places of punishment and nothing else.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread

« on: December 31, 2018, 08:01:28 PM »

Mayweather is far bigger than the Japanese fella. The fella was quick and his hands were sharp but he had zero punch resistance. Mayweather isnt a big puncher and isnt that much bigger to cause the impact he did. Your man kept sort of bouncing too, very weird. Would love to have seen him just fire the legs and knees into Mayweather though.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: December 31, 2018, 07:58:12 PM »

I also cant understand how any murderer should be given another chance. Its the most serious crime and has ended a life. The rest of your life should be in a cell.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: December 31, 2018, 03:23:36 PM »

Prisons are a way for society to deal with people who break the law. Stop people breaking the law deal with the prison issue. You're all looking at this the wrong way round.

Most people choose to abide by the law. Everyone knows what is lawful and what is not. You will never have a society of law abiding citizens.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread

« on: December 31, 2018, 12:07:39 PM »

This fight/farce with Mayweather and the kickboxer is due on now anytime although Twitter seems to think Floyd gone awol

On PPV IN root anybody interested

Waiting on it myself. Joke of a contest though, 3 rounds and it wont go on either fighters record. Mayweather again afraid to fight someone with at least some set of compromise rules established.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: December 31, 2018, 11:25:07 AM »

I read somewhere last week that a fella who raped a wee boy and girl was released after 3 weeks, of a year sentence, as he was too vulnerable. One year is far too lenient but 3 weeks is as bad a punishment as I've heard. As for murder, in the simplest terms you should never be released surely? The punishment should be life and thats still a far better fate than the murder victim got. Too much of the sentences are focused on rehabilitation (no longer a danger to society etc etc), but the main objective of a sentence should be to punish.

The problem with that though is there’s no incentive for the offender to engage at all which in turn would make prisons much more dangerous and difficult to manage. As I say it’s a balancing exercise and a difficult one at that.

But surely there being no incentive to engage and therefore having prisons that are difficult to manage shouldnt be a reason not to put murderers away until they die. Why even call a sentence a life sentence when its really a lock of years.

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General discussion / Re: Prison Sentences

« on: December 30, 2018, 10:13:12 PM »

I read somewhere last week that a fella who raped a wee boy and girl was released after 3 weeks, of a year sentence, as he was too vulnerable. One year is far too lenient but 3 weeks is as bad a punishment as I've heard. As for murder, in the simplest terms you should never be released surely? The punishment should be life and thats still a far better fate than the murder victim got. Too much of the sentences are focused on rehabilitation (no longer a danger to society etc etc), but the main objective of a sentence should be to punish.

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General discussion / Prison Sentences

« on: December 30, 2018, 07:32:12 PM »

I see Rose West is launching an appeal against her 'life means life' sentence. A few have been overturned before and given the judicial system we have, it wouldn't surprise me if she was victorious. How do we have/accept a society where most murderers eventually get their freedom, with the average sentence probably in and around 14 years. How is it bot as simple as murder equals jail until you die?