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General discussion / Re: The Horse racing thread
« on: March 06, 2021, 09:41:44 AM »
He still did it though. I've no interest in racing but for me he was lucky it was only 6 months. I'd have given him the full year. His first statement was embarrassing and for me made things worse. At least the apology from the other lad Rob James was believable and probably came from the lad himself. Gordon Elliott's sounded like something a PR agency would tell you to put out

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General discussion / Re: The Horse racing thread
« on: March 05, 2021, 09:31:18 PM »
The IHRB believe the picture is part of a campaign against Gordon Elliott. That's one hell of a reach unless they provide the evidence to support this view. Do they know why the photo was released?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ihrb_ie/status/1367891076095311877/photo/3

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General discussion / Re: WC 2030 Bid
« on: March 05, 2021, 12:52:23 PM »
2030 will mark 100 years since the first world cup was held in Uruguay. Based on this the WC is likely to go to South America rather than Europe or the US

Would the fact that Qatar has a World Cup coming up not convince you that FIFA donít really give a damn for tradition or cultural milestones?

There cleasrly backhanders involved in that, but what it did do was focus attention of FIFA. Previously people turned a blind eye to shall we say suspicious activities in FIFA (just look at the Delaney/Blatter deal), but the fact Qatar got the world cup was such a joke all sorts attention suddenly started to focus on FIFA and led to the criminal investigations/ arrests since then.

I've no doubt there's still corruption in FIFA, but they'll be looking to avoid the chaos of the Qatar decision.


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General discussion / Re: WC 2030 Bid
« on: March 05, 2021, 12:33:46 PM »
2030 will mark 100 years since the first world cup was held in Uruguay. Based on this the WC is likely to go to South America rather than Europe or the US

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 11:11:41 PM »
We've followed some bad Dublin sides in the 90s and 00s but we still went to the games. I remember losing a league final to cork in Pairc Ui Caoimh in the pissing rain when there were more dubs fans there than cork fans. It's a sad state of affairs when people will only go to games they know their team will win. That's so childish it's actually funny.

Dublin won every other Leinster title during those two decades ffs.

It's a mark of the lack of perspective many Dubs have that they would consider the teams that produced that sort of return as 'bad'.

Perhaps also explains why many of those same Dubs don't seem to understand the problem with 15/16.

Dubs won Leinster in 1995 and didn't win it again until 2002.  It was only really from 2006 they started dominating in Leinster and even then they were getting battered in All Ireland quarter finals and/semi finals.

While that dubs side of the late noughties was a decent side, but no world beaters the rest of Leinster was pretty much rubbish. I'm not sure what the reasons are for that, but I'm sure someone can find a way to blame the dubs

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 11:04:10 PM »
We've followed some bad Dublin sides in the 90s and 00s but we still went to the games. I remember losing a league final to cork in Pairc Ui Caoimh in the pissing rain when there were more dubs fans there than cork fans. It's a sad state of affairs when people will only go to games they know their team will win. That's so childish it's actually funny.

Yeah and i was at league games in Parnell Park.
Lucky you.

I wish all the dubs home League games were in parnell park. There were some cracking matches there over the years. I remember a Meath supporter throwing a cup of tea at Whelo and Whelo having to be held back from going up into stand after the person.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 10:34:41 PM »
We've followed some bad Dublin sides in the 90s and 00s but we still went to the games. I remember losing a league final to cork in Pairc Ui Caoimh in the pissing rain when there were more dubs fans there than cork fans. It's a sad state of affairs when people will only go to games they know their team will win. That's so childish it's actually funny.

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General discussion / Re: Russophobia
« on: March 03, 2021, 06:58:39 PM »
When you have to watch your back because the cops are looking to rob you at every opportunity it isnít a good sign.  I just felt sorry for the poor Japanese tourists who they were robbing blind.

I went over to Moscow for an Ireland match a few years ago and the local police were robbing Irish fans everywhere. They were asking fans for their passports/I'd and then demanding money from them before they'd hand it back.

It's a crazy country and I won't be going back.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 06:55:04 PM »
Question for the Dublin posters.

What will you do if Dublin easily win the next 5 Leinster and AI titles? Do you think you still go to games? Do you think will you still care? Do you think your Kids will care?

Will you miss the away supporters not going to games in numbers anymore? Who is going to go to these games?

No county is going to catch up. You can talk all you like about them getting their act together but they don't have the numbers or the financial clout. And they never will.

We have reached a point of no return.

For me going to the games isn't just about the games, it's catching up with lads, having a laugh and enjoying pre and post match pints and my group has no intention of stopping anytime soon. We've been in Omagh for league games when Jayo got sent off and got awful racial abuse, Castlebar when Tommy Lyons was manager and they only scored 4 points not to mention humiliating qtr final defeats to Kerry/Tyrone amongst others

Unlike some here we don't think this run of Dublin wins will last forever, but we are enjoying it and are in no rush to see it end. I find we appreciate the good times more having had such embarrassing defeats along the way to this.

In terms of fans of other teams I really couldn't care less if opposition teams fans do or don't go to the games. That's up to them. We go to the games to watch the dubs and if we meet some fans of the other team in the ground or in the pub before or afterwards it really doesn't matter.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 04:00:20 PM »
Nice bits of deflection trying to make it all about Rhubarbia😁
Co  Mayo plus Ballagh has about 3.5 tines the population if Leitrim.
The MONSTER has 12 times the population of Mayo/Ballagh.
8 out of last 10 AIs
15 out of last 16 Leinsters.
Thank God they stopped bothering about th'oul League a few years ago.

I'd have more interest in supporting the tommy murphy cup and changing the championship format so teams like Leitrim, Carlow are competing against teams of similar standard and can aim for a trophy at the end of the season rather than making changes that would only benefit teams like Kerry and Mayo

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 03:04:59 PM »
Yet the Munster championship remains a 2 horse race at best. Still Tipperary won it this year so that makes it all ok. So what if it's first time in nearly 30 years Cork or Kerry didn't win it. Important to only worry about the Leinster Championship.

The sooner people realise the days of basing the football championship on a ludicrous and unfair provincial basis the better

5 out of the 6 counties in Munster are primarily hurling counties. This will never change. Four of them don't care if Dublin win the next 20 All Irelands. They have to comfort of being the Elite teams in the AI hurling Championship. The Leinster counties bar Wexford don't have that back-up.

I suppose that's one option, just don't bother trying.

What about Leitrim and Sligo who have to play in the connacht championship just to get hammered by Mayo/Galway. Should they just focus on hurling and forget about winning anything in football as well?
Ah, Iím a bit confused hereÖ ;D ;D
Maybe itís the prolonged effects of lockdown and the closure of me local but it seems we do have a football emergency on our hands.
Fair enough, I thought that has come about because one county, Dubin, has dominated  all others for the best part of a decade and the odds are that with every passing year, the rest will fall further behind.
At least, thatís what I thought..
But there seems to be a solution to the crisis - according to some Dublin heads anyway. As they see it, for the good of the game in Leitrim, Mayo should be carved up to give the poor unfortunate people of the county with the smallest population in the land, a fighting chance of winning a game whenever they meet.
Now here is where my grey cells founder a bit..
In my innocence, I thought Dublin was the problem. With a third of the countryís population and with games development funding thatís more than all the other 31 counties get, Iíd have thought something should be done to redress the imbalance ASAP.
But, according to the said Dublin heads, Mayo, Dublinís only credible opponent for most of the past decade should be carved up instead!
This will give Leitrim a chance and this in turn will solve all problems for everyone.
At least, thatís what I think is being suggested.
Yeah, but what will happen if Leitrim does beat Mayo and are then drawn against Dublin in the next round?
Am I missing something?

Well if we have to split dublin to give the likes of Mayo a chance to win the All Ireland (granted they'll still find a way to self destruct or shoot themselves in the foot) then should we not split Mayo and Galway to give Leitrim and Sligo a chance to win a provincal title?
Bedad this is getting gooder and gooder- if you know what I mean. ;D
So you split Mayo and Galway into, say, four separate divisions in order to let Sligo and Leitrim win a Connacht title and then what?
Suppose Dublin is next up. A case pf goodnight Irene, if there ever was one.
Sligo/Leitrim winning a Connacht title won't do anything to stop Dublin hoovering up All Irelands in their annual turkey shoot.
It'll take two of their main competitors out of the running and ring fence their chances of continuing to win from here to eternity - or until the GAA goes belly up which is likely to happen sooner rather than later

If you want to split up Dublin to help Mayo, why are you so against other counties getting a helping hand. Where's the line? You think it's unfair that Mayo can't beat Dublin, but it's funny to you that Mayo hammer Leitrim in connacht.

Mayo didn't win an All Ireland so everything is all about that. Leitrim, Longford, Clare for example can't compete for provincial titles, but that's irrelevant to you. Mayo can hammer any of those teams so you couldn't care less what happens to them. Mayo have won several connacht titles over the last decade so that must mean the provincials are ok and shouldn't be changed 

Why not bring in some other rules that could help Mayo but do nothing for smaller counties like introduce a new rule that own goals should no longer count or you can't change goalkeepers if a game goes to a replay.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 01:51:46 PM »
The concern for Leitrim and Sligo would melt your heart :D
If Mayowestros is to be split in 3 to equal the playing field for Leitrim then Dublin would have to be split into 30.

The MONSTER is the problem.
How does it get resolved?

You could apply this principle to all the provinces, not just Leinster. I would say the structure of the competition is a bigger issue than Dublin winning it. They've changed the format in hurling to a league basis and it's been successful. Unfortunately asking provincial councils to make take out the provincial championships in football is like asking turkeys to vote for christmas.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 11:51:13 AM »
Yet the Munster championship remains a 2 horse race at best. Still Tipperary won it this year so that makes it all ok. So what if it's first time in nearly 30 years Cork or Kerry didn't win it. Important to only worry about the Leinster Championship.

The sooner people realise the days of basing the football championship on a ludicrous and unfair provincial basis the better

5 out of the 6 counties in Munster are primarily hurling counties. This will never change. Four of them don't care if Dublin win the next 20 All Irelands. They have to comfort of being the Elite teams in the AI hurling Championship. The Leinster counties bar Wexford don't have that back-up.

I suppose that's one option, just don't bother trying.

What about Leitrim and Sligo who have to play in the connacht championship just to get hammered by Mayo/Galway. Should they just focus on hurling and forget about winning anything in football as well?
Ah, Iím a bit confused hereÖ ;D ;D
Maybe itís the prolonged effects of lockdown and the closure of me local but it seems we do have a football emergency on our hands.
Fair enough, I thought that has come about because one county, Dubin, has dominated  all others for the best part of a decade and the odds are that with every passing year, the rest will fall further behind.
At least, thatís what I thought..
But there seems to be a solution to the crisis - according to some Dublin heads anyway. As they see it, for the good of the game in Leitrim, Mayo should be carved up to give the poor unfortunate people of the county with the smallest population in the land, a fighting chance of winning a game whenever they meet.
Now here is where my grey cells founder a bit..
In my innocence, I thought Dublin was the problem. With a third of the countryís population and with games development funding thatís more than all the other 31 counties get, Iíd have thought something should be done to redress the imbalance ASAP.
But, according to the said Dublin heads, Mayo, Dublinís only credible opponent for most of the past decade should be carved up instead!
This will give Leitrim a chance and this in turn will solve all problems for everyone.
At least, thatís what I think is being suggested.
Yeah, but what will happen if Leitrim does beat Mayo and are then drawn against Dublin in the next round?
Am I missing something?

Well if we have to split dublin to give the likes of Mayo a chance to win the All Ireland (granted they'll still find a way to self destruct or shoot themselves in the foot) then should we not split Mayo and Galway to give Leitrim and Sligo a chance to win a provincal title?



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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 03, 2021, 07:46:45 AM »
Yet the Munster championship remains a 2 horse race at best. Still Tipperary won it this year so that makes it all ok. So what if it's first time in nearly 30 years Cork or Kerry didn't win it. Important to only worry about the Leinster Championship.

The sooner people realise the days of basing the football championship on a ludicrous and unfair provincial basis the better

5 out of the 6 counties in Munster are primarily hurling counties. This will never change. Four of them don't care if Dublin win the next 20 All Irelands. They have to comfort of being the Elite teams in the AI hurling Championship. The Leinster counties bar Wexford don't have that back-up.

I suppose that's one option, just don't bother trying.

What about Leitrim and Sligo who have to play in the connacht championship just to get hammered by Mayo/Galway. Should they just focus on hurling and forget about winning anything in football as well?

Sligo has the same population as Roscommon, who are competitive in Connacht. So it's not beyond their means to get to that level given the necessary support.

Leitrim are up against it with their available resources, but it's always been like that. I'm sure the GAA people in the county have long since accepted their lot and set their aspirations accordingly.

Until about ten years ago there weren't too many counties without the demographics to regularly compete at least at provincial level in one code or another - maybe just Leitrim, Longford, Carlow & Fermanagh (who combined represent about 3% of the population of the island). For the vast majority of the country the county system worked alright, and had worked alright for decades.

But this is where the properly organised, properly funded Dublin behemoth of the last decade has broken things. Now there are another seven counties (adding up to almost 1 million people) for whom even a provincial title is an unrealistic prospect. This is a seismic and sudden shock to a system that had worked satisfactorily for over a hundred years.

So, with no obviously agreeable solution to the problem, the GAA leadership do what they do best - ignore it entirely and hope it just goes away. But it won't, and we're going to keep on talking about it until someone in a position of authority has the courage to tackle the thing head on.

So what you're saying is it's unfair that Dublin have an advantage on some counties, but it doesn't matter that the likes of cork, Galway have advantages over some counties and because Dublin have got their house in order and are doing things too well we have to stop them rather than focus on bringing up standards everywhere else

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: March 02, 2021, 11:09:47 PM »
Yet the Munster championship remains a 2 horse race at best. Still Tipperary won it this year so that makes it all ok. So what if it's first time in nearly 30 years Cork or Kerry didn't win it. Important to only worry about the Leinster Championship.

The sooner people realise the days of basing the football championship on a ludicrous and unfair provincial basis the better

5 out of the 6 counties in Munster are primarily hurling counties. This will never change. Four of them don't care if Dublin win the next 20 All Irelands. They have to comfort of being the Elite teams in the AI hurling Championship. The Leinster counties bar Wexford don't have that back-up.

I suppose that's one option, just don't bother trying.

What about Leitrim and Sligo who have to play in the connacht championship just to get hammered by Mayo/Galway. Should they just focus on hurling and forget about winning anything in football as well?

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