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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 04, 2018, 10:17:49 PM »

Even if we take it that the lads playing now aren't seeing the benefit of that money surely you have to see that the current crop of Elite players were taking advantage of the money pumped into the grass roots in the last 10 years!!!
That's exactly it, they weren't!

Every lad would be coached by parents during their club careers. Then when they go onto Dublin development panels, they'd be coached by unpaid ex Dubs players.

While there's the odd exception, the vast majority of the paid coaches are young people, with little or no experience. They wouldn't be let near the senior teams or better underage teams. Most of their time is spent going to National Schools giving PE classes to primary school children and encouraging them to join the club where the parents take over. They'll run classes "train the trainer" type for the volunteer parents have little/no experience to teach them the basic skills and how to teach the basic skills. Nothing about tactics, etc. The parents with senior playing experience or who have coached for a while would tend not to go with those, as they'd know more than the young paid coach.

Yes these young coaches who have probably gone through a rigorous selection programme which would demand a lifetime in the GAA and a University education then upon obtaining the role they are delivering the the best funded coaching programme the sport has ever seen!!

I was in Dublin 2006 and Enda McNulty was the Coaching officer for Ballyboden and they had 2 at that stage for one club. . . You can't tell me that the younger lads on the Dublin team have not been receiving the benefit from it it's crazy to suggest otherwise!!
Well I'm telling you, its the truth.

My son played for 5 years and had two sessions with a GPO. Both in the same week after the two parents over the team had a row and both walked away. My nephew has played for 7 years and has never had a session from a GPO. His team has two parents who both played senior for our club, as would be reasonably common throughout most clubs.

How many Enda McNultys do you think there are? 50 spread across the Dublin clubs? Like think about it, who are they and where do they go? On a salary somewhere in the mid 20s EUR? About 3 or 4 years ago I remember hearing there were 4 ex-county players coaching as GPOs in Dublin. I don't know the current number, but I'd find it hard to believe its much different. Anyone any good at it will move into something else where they can make a career within a very short time.

I know the one player from my club that's on the senior panel never got a single training session from a paid coach while underage. I'd say that's more common than not. The Mun lads, of which there are lots, would be the same. I'd say Crokes and Boden lads might be the only exception and even then I'd say there were better ex-player coaches doing most of the training and all for nothing .

The GPOs predominantly coach weaker children. That is a fact, and that's the whole point of the GPOs. Saying funds given per player playing is a complete nonsense. It's funds per child not playing that is the point of it. And the lads that need the extra persuading are usually the lads who haven't got the whole heap of natural ability or natural eagerness. Maybe you'll pick up the odd swan, but very few I'd wager.
Thats not what i witnessed when i lived in Dublin and was involved with a club at nursery level in up and coming West Dublin club. The GPO would be in the schools every week and would take a session with nursery once a month and give instructions to the mentors and other volunteers. The club encouraged its members to attend GAA courses. In 2 years i attended 3 courses. It was given by 3 different GPO's, one was a current Leitrim footballer, another by Johnny Coopers brother and the GPO of the club. To say GPO dont get involved with training of young players is false. They mentor all the club volunteers in drills and preparation and get involved in training themselves. Difference in Sligo is night and day. Only 2 GPO between all Sligo clubs.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Sligo v Armagh 23/06/2018
« on: June 20, 2018, 11:03:19 AM »
I would have thought surviving a division that Derry couldn't would have been considered an achievement for a county like Sligo.

Galway are way ahead of alot of counties including Sligo - Galway finished top of Div 1 and gave Dublin a fair rattle in the final - they are the first team in the Super 8 - Sligo where never going to beat Galway so does it really matter whether its by 4 points or 20 points - Sligo would need to have had their eye on progressing through the qualifiers against teams at their level.

I think there is a deeper problem than the manager in Sligo if the fans are wishing their team are defeated!


I agree there are many issues with Sligo football and the Sligo senior management in one of them. Offaly, Wexford, Westmeath were also in the division. Derry were missing their Slaughneil players for the duration of the league and are not the force they were a few years ago.

Any manager who will not answer phone calls from the under 20 management in the weeks leading up to the under 20 campaign does not care about Sligo football. We had a good under 20 team this year but 3 of them couldn't play as they played the London game. The u20 goalkeeper was sub goalkeeper for seniors and wasn't released.

It was the manner of the defeat that disappointed Sligo supporters. The lack of passion, fitness from the players, naivety of the management, lack of a game plan.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Sligo v Armagh 23/06/2018
« on: June 20, 2018, 10:12:10 AM »
General sense of apathy in Sligo at the minute. We are county with very few fanatics who live and breed Sligo football.

Most want Corey gone s
o a win comes with his tenure getting a boost. I still want us to win. This younger crop need more big game experience.

For both teams this could be the draw after - winners of Leitrim v Louth then play Laois to get to super 8s.  :o

Is this not his first year in the job?

Yeah seems harsh - what has he done wrong?

4-21 to 1-12
Surviving division 3 by skin of teeth
Refusing to allow the under 20's in the squad play with their age group.
Refusing to communicate with under 20 management.
Revolving door of backroom team.

Time to get a local back in charge who cares about the future direction of Sligo football and not the short term.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Sligo v Armagh 23/06/2018
« on: June 19, 2018, 04:26:26 PM »
On what planet should a team at Armagh’s level be overlooking Sligo at Marky Park? It’s definitey not this one.

Presumably one where Sligo's home pitch is not referred to as "Marky Park"

Its Markievicz Park not Marky Park. You don't have to be from Connacht to know that

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Senior Championship 2018
« on: June 17, 2018, 04:56:07 PM »
Kevin Walsh doesn't have a clue.

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Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Reality is both teams are missing numerous players because of unavailability, injury and Leaving Cert. Sligo missing 4 due to senior and 3 other starters due to Leaving Cert. Im sure Ross are similarly affected. Stronger counties will have better replacements. A once good competition has been destroyed by GAA officialdom.

Well it didn’t help that Cake put three of his best players on the bench. Once Ruane and Murphy were brought on we were a far better side. Sligo got to 2-01 and despite kicking away something in the region of fifteen points didn’t score for about 30 minutes in the match.

Still not good enough to bother Galway without a truly special performance, though.
I'm sure he had a reason for putting them on the bench. 3 Sligo lads, one was on the bench and 2 others not in the 24 for missing training last weekend.

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Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Reality is both teams are missing numerous players because of unavailability, injury and Leaving Cert. Sligo missing 4 due to senior and 3 other starters due to Leaving Cert. Im sure Ross are similarly affected. Stronger counties will have better replacements. A once good competition has been destroyed by GAA officialdom.

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Sligo team named. No subs published.



    Daniel Lyons (Shamrock Gaels)
    Oisin Conlon (Ballymote)
    Adrian Cummins (Calry/St Joseph’s)
    Evan Lyons (Shamrock Gaels)
    Sean Murphy (Coolera/Strandhill)
    Mikey Gordon (Easkey)
    Luke Towey (St Molaise Gaels)
    Barry Gorman (Coolaney/Mullinabreena)
    Adrian Frain (Bunninadden)
    Rory McHugh (Easkey)
    Red Óg Murphy (Curry)
    Conan Marren (Tourlestrane)
    Joe McHugh (Easkey)
    Shane Deignan (Shamrock Gaels)
    Ciaran O’Dowd (Enniscrone/Kilglass)


County senior reserve keeper not selected for Sligo U20 team either.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Senior Championship 2018
« on: May 31, 2018, 02:03:52 PM »
Teams have been named, good few changes for Galway, Ian Burke starts.

GALWAY:
Ruairí Lavelle (Bóthar an Trá/Cnoc na Cathrach)
Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna)
David Wynne (Maigh Cuilinn)
Cathal Sweeney (Cill Ainnín)
Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
Seán Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
Paul Conroy (Naomh Séamus)
Thomas Flynn (Baile Átha’n Rí
Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheál)
Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
Johnny Heaney (Cill Ainnín)
Ian Burke (Corafinne)
Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
Barry McHugh (An Creagán/Magh Locha

SLIGO:
Aidan Devaney (Calraigh Naomh Iósef)
Charles Harrison (Naomh Eoin)
Eoin McHugh (Gael Naomh Molaise)
Ross Donovan (Cláirsigh An Oirthear)
Neil Ewing (Droim Cliabh-Ros Ceite)
Adrian McIntyre (Tuarloistreáin)
Gerard Ó Kelly/Lynch (Naomh Mhuire)
Niall Murphy (Cuil-Irra/Leathros)
Kevin McDonnell (Caisleáin Uí Conchuir)
Paddy O’Connor (Naomh Fearnan)
Liam Gaughan (Tuarloistreáin)
Cathal Henry (Tuarloistreáin)
Kyle Cawley (Naomh Muire)
Pat Hughes (Gaobach)
Adrian Marren (Curraigh)

Does anyone believe those teams will start? MOM from last game, Duggan dropped as well as Galway's best man marker (Kerin). Sligo team will probably see a few changes also.

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This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

Can't you play for the U20s and still be a sub keeper for the seniors?

I think that should be acceptable. However senior manager doesn't. Other players on the senior panel u20's are having difficulty getting access to. Rule is a joke and need to be repealed.

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This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

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Sligo play Roscommon in the under 20's this weekend without their 3 best players (and probably their keeper) due to this crazy rule that under 20 players who play senior championship cannot play under 20. Again another rule implemented by GAA authorities that has an negative impact on the weaker counties. Don't think any Roscommon under 20 players lined out last weekend although the Lennon lad is injured. This 2 teams played out a very tight game at minor level with Roscommon coming from behind to win by a point. Likely to be a more comfortable victory for the Rossies at the weekend due to Sligo missing players.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Senior Championship 2018
« on: May 28, 2018, 12:38:03 PM »
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it

A history of what? In fairness he actually managed Sligo to beat Galway once.

History of losing games his teams were hot favourites to win i presume. Off the top of my head.


v London 2013
v Tipp 2016
v Roscommon 2017
& Roscommon 2010

Leitrim 2011

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Honestly,  some awful made up rubbish been posted here. This high stool type narrative about how Aido picks the team etc is the biggest load of crap ever to do the rounds, absolutely no basis for it whatsoever.  And now our Rossie friend here who is totally obsessed with all things mayo is trying to make out hes privy to information regarding the substitution of Alan Freeman in 13 final.

Will ya just shtop for the love of gawd.
From my recollection of the 13 final Freeman was doing quite well. Conroy didn't make much of an impact as a sub.

Things were very frosty between Horan and Freeman in Coca-Cola (where they both worked) afterwards.

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I saw that  Eamonn O Hara claimed the referee favored Castlebar in their recent encounter. Funny I talked to other people who were at the game who said the exact opposite

Was at the game and i thought it was refereed fairly well. There was a few decisions to either side that were questionable. Castlebar got away with some cynical fouling, dragging support players down (which i think is what he was referring to) but that apart ref did ok.

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