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<snip>As I said the British can treat me as a UK citizen if they so wish. It doesn't make me one and it isn't about feelings.<snip> ---8<--
For the record, it is not just the UK Government that would consider you an UK Citizen but also the Irish Government too (your Irish citizenship, notwithstanding), as well as pretty much most nations on this planet. For example, if you were in Britain and you were arrested in very dodgy circumstances, if you were to approach the Irish Embassy or Consulate for help on the grounds that you believed yourself to be a foreigner in GB (i.e. don't hold UK citizenship) they & the DFA would almost certainly refuse to give any diplomatic assistance on the grounds that you are a recognised citizen of the country that you were arrested in - this is standard international diplomatic protocol where dual or multiple citizenship is concerned.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 12:16:58 PM »
I never thought that the result from a Junior Football Championship preliminary round game would generate such a response!

TBF I've been "out of the loop" concerning much of the on-field activities in the club now for a good few years so I've no insider knowledge on that front though I did notice on the team sheet for last night's game that a few familiar names were missing for whatever reason.

A few notes I can make however that won't cause an internal ruckus with me saying them (hopefully) are... the minor teams over the last handful of years have been quite weak - when you're struggling to be competitive in Grade 4 in a season you do have to ask yourself a question of two. The thing is numbers coming out to play for us at underage fluctuate a fair bit; I remember helping to take both the Under 8 and Under 10 teams over a decade ago and while numbers were healthy for the U8's, it was sometimes a struggle to get numbers out for the U10s and most often we just about had enough numbers to field one team without overspilling into the older U8 boys to help boost numbers. I also don't know how many times I've mentioned it but Fintona doesn't have a "huge" catchment area - granted there's a fair few clubs that are working on even smaller numbers, but that doesn't mean that Fintona has a big advantage that it isn't taking.

We had a youth team that came through a few years back that won the U14 G2 championship, the Minor G2 league and lost out in the Minor G2 championship final (as well as being beat in the final by Donaghmore in the Og Sport Grade 1 the year after the U14 championship win). Unfortunately a few promising players on that side never really made it through to senior level, along with two key players transferring out.

On The Sideline has nailed the point about the amount of work that has gone in over the last seven or so years from the ground up, a lot of which has been down to many parents putting in some work as well as some fresh faces that aren't originally from Fintona. Other than our senior & reserve footballers the club is in a reasonably healthy state - the minor & U16 boys have already qualified for their Grade 2 league semis with a round of games to spare, the U14 boys are holding their own well in Grade 1 (though Trillick & Carrickmore are well ahead of everyone in that section). In ladies football the senior team is holding well at Intermediate level and the minors are also through to their league semis, while we've also reintroduced hurling into the club though it is proving difficult to have competitive games that aren't a walkover to one side or another - Carrickmore & Omagh are well ahead of the likes of ourselves and the regional teams and then Dungannon have not one but two teams at U14 level that are so far ahead of everyone it isn't funny to try and field against them only to expect 40pt+ hammerings that demoralises players - that's a testament to the work that the hurlers in Dungannon have put in over the last number of years and it ain't their fault they're so far ahead of everyone else in Tyrone, but with the amount of teams & playing pool for hurling in Tyrone being much smaller than that for football it's a worry for keeping players interested.

All in all, getting the current underage football players transitioning to reserve & senior levels over the next few years will be I'm sure of importance as well as continuing the present youth development. It was only a few years ago Owen Roes were in a similar position to ourselves and managed to lift themselves out of Junior in around three seasons, with other examples from the past also available. It will not be this year, but Fintona will be back to being competitive, I'm sure.

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General discussion / Re: Northern Ireland The Centenary of OWC
« on: August 11, 2020, 11:24:23 PM »
The De Souza case set no such marker.

If the matter was heard as case law or common law, which I presume it has been, then yes it does.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/northern-ireland-born-british-and-irish-win-eu-citizenship-rights-1.4253692

What I take from the linked report is that the UKHO is essentially conceding that Mrs De Souza can apply for UK residency without having to identify as a British national on the basis that she is (also) a European Union national and submits an application as such. A precedent is therefore set which can be referred to in future cases - however as I also said, the devil will be in the detail as to how such a precedent applies to future cases which may or may not apply.

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General discussion / Re: Northern Ireland The Centenary of OWC
« on: August 11, 2020, 05:54:34 PM »
Will take the holiday but he can keep the rest

Likewise - mind you, Jim is deluded if anything more than 1% of the GB population gives a feck about an NI "centenary", a clear sign of someone not confident in his identity who's trying far too hard.

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General discussion / Re: Northern Ireland The Centenary of OWC
« on: August 11, 2020, 05:47:59 PM »
Sorry but I am not a British National, whatever you are the British might think. I believe Emma de Souza has sorted that legally as well.

In the De Souza case, my understanding is that the UK Home Office is now preparing to allow her to file an application for her husband to obtain permanent residency recognising her as an Irish citizen on the basis that the UKHO is to consider those born in (insert your preference for "that area" here) whom are entitled to Irish citizenship to file such an application as a European Union citizen for which a programme presently exists for settlement during the transition period from leaving the EU (as the UK is currently in) without having to renounce UK citizenship in the process. It would appear that the courts have found that the "expression of identity" clause in the Good Friday Agreement meant that Ms. De Souza was being discriminated against when making the application for residency by the UKHO insisting that if you are deemed a UK citizen, you must apply as such otherwise it would not proceed. Fair play to her for her determination in what was very much a test case.

However, in the eyes of the law in the UK, she is still deemed a UK citizen as is anyone born in (ARGH!) under British Citizenship qualification rules. Wherever you or I like it or not is immaterial within the eyes of British law. We had a thread on this a while back, pointing out that national citizenship is bestowed by nation states by various methods whom may allow you to renounce it by following certain legal procedures - but it is not necessarily cheap.

What the De Souza case has set a marker for is for those born in N******n I*****d whom solely identify themselves with Irish citizenship can do so without having to formally identify themselves as British (even if the UK state deems them as such). However what this means beyond her and her husband's case (and those in a very similar scenario) is perhaps still up for legal debate.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: August 10, 2020, 11:08:38 PM »
Some undertaking.

Is the world ready for Derrytresk/Urney?



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General discussion / Re: Northern Ireland The Centenary of OWC
« on: August 10, 2020, 10:57:19 PM »
No True Irishman Scotsman...

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Imagine some Scottish chauvinist settled down one Sunday morning with his customary copy of The News of the World. He reads the story under the headline, 'Sidcup Sex Maniac Strikes Again'. Our reader is, as he confidently expected, agreeably shocked: 'No Scot would do such a thing!' Yet the very next Sunday he finds in that same favourite source a report of the even more scandalous on-goings of Mr Angus McSporran in Aberdeen. This clearly constitutes a counter example, which definitively falsifies the universal proposition originally put forward. ('Falsifies' here is, of course, simply the opposite of 'verifies'; and it therefore means 'shows to be false'.) Allowing that this is indeed such a counter example, he ought to withdraw; retreating perhaps to a rather weaker claim about most or some. But even an imaginary Scot is, like the rest of us, human; and none of us always does what we ought to do. So what he is in fact saying is: 'No true Scotsman would do such a thing!'

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: July 30, 2020, 03:20:51 PM »
Attention Nordies! Contact tracing app for Android and iOS now launched...

Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.hscni.covidtracker&hl=en_GB
Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/stopcovid-ni/id1519404160

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: July 27, 2020, 06:17:11 PM »


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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone GAA Website & Social Media Directory
« on: July 22, 2020, 10:53:37 PM »
3. Facebook

Tyrone Official - www.facebook.com/tyronegaa
Tyrone Ladies GFA - www.facebook.com/tyroneladiesgfa
Tyrone Camogie - www.facebook.com/OfficialTyroneCamogie

Clubs

Aghaloo - www.facebook.com/Aghaloo-ONeills-GFC-1685774114979104
Aghyaran - www.facebook.com/Aghyaran-St-Davogs-GAA-Club-313997738994587
Ardboe - www.facebook.com/Ardboe
Augher - www.facebook.com/Aughergaa
Beragh - www.facebook.com/beraghredknights.gaa
Brackaville - www.facebook.com/brackavillegfc
Brocagh - www.facebook.com/AnBrocaghCumannEimeidi
Carrickmore (F) - www.facebook.com/ancharraigmhorgaa
Carrickmore (H) - www.facebook.com/eireogcarrickmore
Castlederg - www.facebook.com/DergGFC
Clann na nGael - www.facebook.com/clannnangael
Clogher - www.facebook.com/clogher.eireogs
Clonoe - www.facebook.com/ClonoeORahillysGAA
Coalisland - www.facebook.com/CoalislandFianna1903
Cookstown - www.facebook.com/cookstownfrrocksgfc
Cúchulainn an Ghleanna (H) - www.facebook.com/CuchulainnAnGhleanna/
Derrylaughan - www.facebook.com/derrylaughangac
Derrytresk - www.facebook.com/Doire-Treasc-Fir-an-Chnoic-251428108942
Donaghmore - www.facebook.com/donaghmorestpatricks.gaa
Dromore - www.facebook.com/dromoregfc
Drumquin - www.facebook.com/DrumquinGAA
Drumragh - www.facebook.com/DrumraghSarsfields
Duiche Neill, Benburb (H) - www.facebook.com/DuicheNeillHurling
Dungannon (F) - www.facebook.com/dungannonthomas.clarkes
Dungannon (H) - www.facebook.com/EoghanRuadhHurling
Edendork - www.facebook.com/Edendork
Eglish - www.facebook.com/EglishGAC
Errigal Ciaran - www.facebook.com/errigalciarangaa
Eskra - www.facebook.com/eskraemmettsgaa
Fintona - www.facebook.com/fintonagaa
Glenelly - www.facebook.com/GlenellyGFC
Greencastle - www.facebook.com/greencastleagussperrinogGAA
Kildress - www.facebook.com/KWTgac
Killeeshil - www.facebook.com/KilleeshilGFCOfficial
Killyclogher - www.facebook.com/killycloghergaa
Killyman - www.facebook.com/KillymanGAC
Loughmacrory - www.facebook.com/lochmhicruairigfc
Moortown - www.facebook.com/moortown.stmalachys
Moy - www.facebook.com/Moy-Tír-na-nÓg-GAC-115194241841358
Naomh Eoghan - www.facebook.com/NaomhEoghanGAC
Omagh (F) - www.facebook.com/omaghstendas
Omagh (H) - www.facebook.com/omaghhurlingandcamogie
Owen Roes - www.facebook.com/owenroe.leckpatrick
Pomeroy - www.facebook.com/pomeroyplunketts
Rock - www.facebook.com/rockstpatricks
Stewartstown - www.facebook.com/anchraobh1912
Strabane (F) - www.facebook.com/StrabaneSigersonsGAA
Strabane (H) - www.facebook.com/Strabane-Shamrocks-Hurling-Na-Seamroga-456486294526587
T***yreagh - www.facebook.com/t***yreaghgac
Trillick - www.facebook.com/Trillick-St-Macartans-209116562586697
Tulach Óg (H) - www.facebook.com/tulachog
Urney - www.facebook.com/UrneyGaa

Youth Football Teams

Both Domhnaigh (Gortin/Glenelly) - www.facebook.com/Both-Domhnaigh-866144733407471

Ladies GFA Clubs

Badoney - www.facebook.com/BadoneyLadiesGFC
Dromore - www.facebook.com/dromoreladiesgfc
Fintona - www.facebook.com/fintonaladies
Rock - www.facebook.com/RockLadiesGFC1
St. Macartan's - www.facebook.com/St-Macartans-Ladies-GFC-1065538976862476

Camogie Clubs

Brocagh - www.facebook.com/BrocaghCamogie
Eglish - www.facebook.com/Eglish-Camogie-Club-534213399966794
Naomh Treasa, Dungannon - www.facebook.com/dungannoncamogieclub

Handball

Carrickmore - www.facebook.com/CarrickmoreGAAHandball
Loughmacrory - www.facebook.com/loughmacroryGAAhandball

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone GAA Website & Social Media Directory
« on: July 22, 2020, 10:12:36 PM »
2. Twitter

Tyrone GAA Official - www.twitter.com/TyroneGAALive
Tyrone Ladies GFA - www.twitter.com/TyroneLGFA
Tyrone Camogie - www.twitter.com/Tyrone_Camogie
Tyrone Cummann na mBunscol - www.twitter.com/Tyrone_mBunscol

Clubs

Aghaloo - www.twitter.com/AghalooOfficial
Aghyaran - www.twitter.com/AghyaranGFC
Ardboe - www.twitter.com/ardboegfc
Augher - www.twitter.com/AnEochair
Beragh - www.twitter.com/beraghgaa
Brackaville - www.twitter.com/BrackavilleGFC
Brocagh - www.twitter.com/BrocaghGFC
Carrickmore (F) - www.twitter.com/CarmenGAA32
Carrickmore (H) - www.twitter.com/EireOg
Clann na nGael - www.twitter.com/c_na_ngael
Clogher - www.twitter.com/ClogherGAC
Clonoe - www.twitter.com/clonoeorahillys
Coalisland - www.twitter.com/NaFianna1903
Cookstown - www.twitter.com/FrRocksGFC
Cúchulainn an Ghleanna (H) - www.twitter.com/cuchulainnAnG
Derrylaughan - www.twitter.com/DerrylaughanGAC
Derrytresk - www.twitter.com/DerrytreskGAC
Donaghmore - www.twitter.com/Donaghmoregaa
Dromore - www.twitter.com/dromoregfc
Drumquin - www.twitter.com/drumquingaa
Duiche Neill, Benburb (H) - www.twitter.com/DuicheNeillHurl
Dungannon (F) - www.twitter.com/DgnClarkeGFC
Dungannon (H) - www.twitter.com/DGNHurlingclub
Edendork - www.twitter.com/EdendorkGAC
Eglish - www.twitter.com/EglishGAC
Errigal Ciaran - www.twitter.com/ErrigalCiaran1
Eskra - www.twitter.com/Eskra_GAA
Fintona - www.twitter.com/FintonaGAA
Galbally - www.twitter.com/GalballyPearses
Glenelly - www.twitter.com/Gleann_Eallaigh
Gortin - www.twitter.com/GortinGAA
Greencastle - www.twitter.com/greencastleGAA
Kildress - www.twitter.com/kwtgac
Killeeshil - www.twitter.com/killeeshilpro23
Killyclogher - www.twitter.com/KillyclogherGAA
Killyman - www.twitter.com/KillymanGAC
Loughmacrory - www.twitter.com/LoughmacroryGAA
Moortown - www.twitter.com/MoortownGAC
Moy - www.twitter.com/AnMhaigh
Naomh Colum Cille (H) - www.twitter.com/NaomhColumCille
Naomh Eoghan - www.twitter.com/NaomhEoghanGAA
Omagh (F) - www.twitter.com/omaghstendas
Omagh (H) - www.twitter.com/omaghurlers
Owen Roes - www.twitter.com/OwenRoes
Pomeroy - www.twitter.com/ThePlunkettsGaa
Rock - www.twitter.com/ancharraig
Stewartstown - www.twitter.com/An_Chraobh
Strabane (F) - www.twitter.com/SigersonsGAA
T***yreagh - www.twitter.com/T***yreaghGaa
Trillick - www.twitter.com/TrillickGAC
Tulach Óg (H) - www.twitter.com/tulachogHC
Urney - www.twitter.com/urneygaa

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Tyrone / Tyrone GAA Website & Social Media Directory
« on: July 22, 2020, 09:28:15 PM »
Below is a list of links to various websites and social media accounts associated to either the County Board in Tyrone, its club units or "sister" organisations. If you see a link that's missing, reply in this thread and I'll add it on in this directory. P.S. No "fan pages", commercial operations etc. only "official" links.

All external links to websites & social media accounts are attempted to be as accurate as possible at the last time of this post or edit, but neither I, the admins/moderators or anyone else will be responsible for incorrect or dead links which hasn't been brought to attention.



Present - Websites, Twitter & Facebook
To Be Added Later - Instagram and maybe some others.



1. Websites

Tyrone GAA - www.tyronegaa.ie
Tyrone Cumman na mBunscol - www.cnmbtyrone.com

Clubs

Live

Ardboe - www.ardboegfc.com
Beragh - www.beraghredknights.com
Carrickmore (F) - www.carmengfc.com
Donaghmore - www.donaghmoregaa.ie
Dromore - www.dromoregfc.com
Drumragh - www.drumraghsarsfields.com
Eglish - www.eglishgac.com
Galbally - www.galballygac.com
Gortin - www.gortingaa.ie
Killyclogher - www.killycloghergaa.com
Loughmacrory - www.loughmacrorygfc.net
Omagh - www.omaghstendas.com
Rock - www.rockstpatricksgac.co.uk

Dormant (Live site but no updates for at least three months since last directory update excluding social media & lotto updates)

Augher - www.aughergaa.com
Clann na nGael - www.cngtyrone.ie
Clonoe - www.orahillys.clonoe.com
Dungannon (F) - www.thomasclarkegfc.com
Errigal Ciaran - www.errigalciarangac.com
Edendork - www.edendorkgac.com
Kildress - www.kildress.gaa.ie
Stewartstown - www.harps.org
Urney - www.urneygfc.wixsite.com

"Under Construction" or non-operational

Fintona - www.fintonagaa.com
Moy - www.moygac.com
Owen Roes - www.owenroe-leckpatrick.ie
Pomeroy - www.theplunkettsgac.ie

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: July 22, 2020, 07:40:50 PM »
Guidelines for Clubs following Positive Covid 19 testing

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Following the recent Positive Testing from one of our Clubs in Tyrone for the COVID-19 virus since last weekend, resulting in his Club suspending all activities on becoming aware of the situation. Similarly the Club which played in a an official fixture against this player’s Club also decided to suspend its activities. Since then, players and officials and their families of both Clubs have been provided with COVID-19 virus tests, and the outcomes are awaited.

It is timely to remind all members of all our Clubs as to the importance of adhering to all of the guidelines from Government sources, the Health Authorities and this Association, that have been circulated during the past few months.

Clubs must act upon and implement the guidelines, directives and advice that is being provided, even though it may be very difficult to do so, at times.

Special attention is again drawn to the directive that changing rooms should not be open yet, and that there should be No Spectators in attendance at games (other than a parent / guardian who is transporting a youth player).

Failure to comply fully with the guidelines issued will result in the continued spreading of the infection, and a possible reversion to another shutdown of GAA activities.

https://tyronegaa.ie/2020/07/guidelines-for-clubs-following-positive-covid-19-testing/

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