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A great result tonight considering the players we were missing. That was a completely second choice midfield that started and the issues at centre back and goalie.

When we have our best team back excluding Van Dijk we won't be too far away this year.

Gini isnít second choice. Starts most games. But yes it was a weakened team.

World hasnít ended you are right. However the additions to the squad who were the catalyst to a first title in 30 years are both currently out. One long term. You could forgive people for being disappointed.

Violent conduct requires you to not be challenging for the ball. So it doesnít cover that kind of incident.

It 100% should have been a red but itís one of those stupidities of the rules that means itís not. It doesnít meet the criteria for either violent conduct or serious foul play.

So if the whistle goes a player can do what they want to an opposition if the ball is still in play? Absurd. It was a red card, the officials completely fucked up while concentrating on the offside.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 17, 2020, 09:49:06 PM »
McAleenan away from Warrenpoint and Rostrevor making changes to their management too. Disappointing there was no game today but the two points puts us closer to promotion - hopefully score difference doesnít come into in in the long run.

What changes are these?

According to the ref in the BT studio Dickford should have been given a red. Irrelevant whether there was an offside. Otherwise you'd have all sorts going on after a decision. Changed the whole game that decision.

Aye but did you see he tried to back track after the final whistle once he realised he was wrong. Firstly saying it should have been violent conduct (it shouldnít) then saying that it was foul play because the lunge started before the whistle was blown even though the contact was after. Clearly didnít have a clue. The FA explanation on the rules requires three criteria before a foul can be considered.

Itís available here

One of the three basic criteria for a foul is for the ball to be in play. It wasnít.

Stupid requirement as this showed.

But the above even goes on to say serious foul play can only occur when the ball is in play

Doesnít have to be a foul. He can be sent off for violent conduct at any time before during or after a game. Which is different from serious foul play. Ball doesnít have to be in play. It should have been a red card, end of story.

GAA Discussion / Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
« on: October 14, 2020, 06:40:44 PM »
So the North have said

"No kind of organised contact sport involving households mixing outside the elite level"

I presume this covers the GAA.

Does this mean no training?? As usual sweet FA communication from Ulster GAA or from any of the 6 Counties on it!!

Catch yourself on. Seriously. Do you not think they will be looking some clarity themselves first? Iím
sure there is a queue at the door across the board seeking advice and clarity. Would it be totally shocking for businesses and livelihoods to get their answers before an amateur sport? 

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 14, 2020, 06:36:06 PM »
With the new restrictions does that mean that u17 intercounty will go ahead?
I take it thats senior leagues, reserve championships and hurling scrapped then?
Very tough on Clonduff but that is the hand we have been dealt with

Not sure on this one.. I think senior GAA is deemed elite level but U17s would still be children. What then for the u20 semi finals happening this weekend?? Because they are over 18 and playing at inter county standard with a few of them involved in their senior setups - are they deemed elite???

I do not think anyone knows, a statement from Ulster or Down would help to clarify some of the questions. Can teams train?

Iím sure they are trying to get clarity themselves seeing as the restrictions were only announced 8 hours ago.

As they say in GAA, 'hammer the hammer' , fair play to Villa management- they identified a weakness in that Liverpools pressing and counter attacks left the centre backs exposed on either wing. Gomez was all over the show, trying to play off side on the halfway line ...jesus wept !

Playing offside on the half way line is a moot point as they do that every game. Itís the Ďall
Over the showí which was the main problem!!!

Mane wasnít the missing ingredient yesterday. Allison and Henderson would have made a bigger difference the way the game panned out. Adrian gifts them a lead, but if Henderson plays, thereís no way Liverpool concede 7. They may not have won, but certainly damage would have been limited.

Big save from Alisson in the second half! That was more like it!

Not as good overall in the second half, although Fabinho and Mane were excellent.

No way Iíd move Fab to defence in a permanent way, but will be interesting to see what the first XI is when Thiago is fit.

No such thing. Rarely a fully fit squad for any game anyway. Any 3 of Henderson, Gini, Keita, Fabinho, Ox, Thiago, Milner could start on any given day. Great to see.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: September 26, 2020, 10:58:01 PM »
No need for the leagues to be finished putting everything into perspective.

Got a good run at it and the main events bar replayed hurling final are done.

Quit while youíre head.

None of the intermediate or junior hurling championship games have even started yet. I know most of this county don't give a stuff but if the pin is pulled now that's going to be harsh on those players. Not to start until 11th October.
What's the reason for the intermediate and junior starting so late? Is it dual players?. Both should be finished out.
They said they couldn't play it round the football championships. There would be an odd duel player but not many. I think they were worried about referee shortage too when the plan was put in place.
Any decisions on closing down should only be on basis of public health guidelines. Behind closed doors should be considered, especially in view of the success of PŠircTV. Unless there is a valid public health direction otherwise , it would be totally unfair to pull the plug on competitions IMHO

I am sure the multiple shutdowns across the county causing havoc with fixture calendars at all levels, all after consultation with Public Health is reason enough.

Behind closed doors perhaps, how do you police it though.

The likes of the reserve Championships havenít started either. Itís not about not giving a stuff about hurling, and itís not about being Ďfairí, itís about what is right for society in general. What would be really harsh on those players is if they train and play through a peak in the virus and suddenly put family members or others at risk unknowingly. It is hard to know what is the right thing to do.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: September 22, 2020, 05:19:31 PM »
No need for the leagues to be finished putting everything into perspective.

Got a good run at it and the main events bar replayed hurling final are done.

Quit while youíre head.

GAA Discussion / Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
« on: September 21, 2020, 12:02:51 AM »
Itís not even that, BB2.

If Iím sat in the front row, properly socially distancing and all that. Staying away from other people, disinfected my hands, etc etc. The ball lands beside me, and I pick it up and chuck it back to the player for the sideline, I may as well have shaken hands with all the players.

OK Iím overthinking things, but really, thatís the reality. Not only that, but I risk passing the virus on to every player by picking up that ball.

To be honest, if you are thinking about things that much you shouldnít be going to games full stop.

Just donít touch the ball. Pretty simple.

Leeds were a breath of fresh air, really enjoyable to watch. Will probably go straight back down but it'll be brilliant entertainment.

It's a pity Liverpool had to resort to that embarrassing dive in order to win.

You're a gobshite.

Deserved 3 points to Liverpool. Salah was immense. Disappointed with Bobby. Really starting to show his age. Keita was so-so for me. Jones very good when he came on. Robertson was Liverpool's 2nd best player. Outstanding defensive performance in the 2nd half. 2 clear penalties and was an outrage Virgil's goal didn't stand, leeds man tripped over his own player, never a foul. Hope Gini stays, there's not the right mix of attacking guile and defensive workrate in the remaining MFs.

Did VVD and Gomez swap positions in that 2nd half? Seemed at times Gomez played next to Robertson and VVD next to TAA. Matip very rusty when he came on. For all my praise of him he is a clumsy kind of lad. Uncomfortable on the ball and 90 mins of Leeds pressing up on him would have had him shitting bricks.
I like Jones , but he was to blame for Leeds third goal, was caught ball watching and didnt track the run from midfield. Robertson was very good , thought TAA was very poor and looked uninterested..

Uninterested is not really a word you would associate with a Premier League Champion with a host of personal accolades only a handful of weeks ago. Poor performance, not up to standard, below par perhaps, but uninterested no.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: August 19, 2020, 12:15:38 AM »
Could you describe what actually happened?

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