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GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
« on: September 18, 2018, 05:44:47 PM »


At Championship the ref usually has his umpires and linesmen with radio contact, and he's talking to them, an umpire will draw his attention to a foul or off the ball incident but the ref will let play continue and eal with it afterwards, some linesmen will let you know straight away and you may (if you chose) make a call there and then based on his call, Ive done it recently and I think its a great idea, the linesman let me know about a technical foul i didnt seen and i blew the whistle..


Interesting.  So a linesman could tell you that you missed a double bounce ,or a touch on the ground, and you could blow for the free, even though you missed it yourself?
Not sure I've seen that happen.  Only ever seem to see linesman involved when there is physical contact.

Did not know that either. Is that allowed under the rules or does it just happen in games?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: September 18, 2018, 02:14:03 PM »
Sad news for former Liverpool full back Stephen Darby. Always thought he was a decent defender, unfortunately a bit too old school in the modern wingback era.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45561264

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 10, 2018, 07:45:09 PM »
I heard there wasn't much in the incident. Cant see anything come of it.

More concerning is the recording of a well known, well travelled manager asking a game to be decided before a ball was thrown in.
Thankfully the opposition refused and subsequently tanked them.

Maybe Iím being naive but how would this even happen?? Manager says to other manager ďlet us win please ď. Why would any team agree? And even if two managers agreed I would like to think the players would road him if he suggested they throw a game.

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:29:46 AM »
Smokey and the Bandit was a great film. Has aged terribly but still.

RIP Burt

One of my all time favourites. You used to be guaranteed it would be on at least twice a year on Saturday and was essential viewing.

RIP Burt

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:24:00 AM »
Junior Championship Quarter this weekend. Should be 4 good games.

JFC Quarter Finals in Omagh
Newtownstewart V Castlederg @ 7pm
Eskra V Beragh @ 8.30pm

JFC Quarter Finals in Loughmacrory
Rock V Clogher @ 4pm
Drumragh V Killeeshil @ 5.30pm

Potentially 4 great games here, hard to call them all really.
My thoughts in bold, but wouldn't be surprised if they were all wrong as there isn't much in any of the ties.

I fancy Eskra to come through. They will be seriously annoyed with slipping up in the league and will not want to get dragged into the playoffs. Agree with Clogher although Rock are an experienced Championship side and probably depends on whether Clogher have eased off knowing promotion is already secured.

The other two are really hard to call. Is Mayse still playing for Newtown? in any case I would probably give Newtown the edge against the Derg but it will be tight.  In the last game, a month ago it would have been Killeeshil strong favourites but Drumragh  put together a decent run at the end of the league to potentially sneak into the playoffs (depending on championship winners) and then beat a fancied Errigal III team last round. However I ll go with Killeeshil for the last spot.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: August 29, 2018, 05:35:10 PM »
He also spent 20 mil on Delot a defender this summer.

To be fair I think he is injured.

He may be but that has no bearing on the fact that in monetary terms he has been seriously backed by the club and he accepts no responsibility when it goes wrong.

He has been relatively well backed by the club monetarily until the Summer just gone when the glaring deficiencies in the squad weren't addressed and he wasn't backed at all  Relatively well in that although he's spent an eye watering sum of £380m or whatever the neighbors across the city who had already much superior squad have spent 150/200m more in the same timeframe.

People say well he bought them why doesn't he coach them? Well he managed to coach them to finish above 18 other teams last season despite the fact that most/all of them are considered not good enough by most onlookers. I think on the Liverpool thread last year there a feeling that there was very few players that ye would be interested in, 3 or 4 at most? The football may have been 'agricultural' but maybe that was a realization that opening up would allow them to be picked apart

When United gave him a new contract last spring they had to back him with the players he wanted in the summer. The notion that Woodward or whoever is advising him knows more about players than the manager, any manager, is laughable..

Thats the line I would disagree with Boycey. For anyone to argue that Pogba/Matic/Sanchez and to a lesser extent Bailly/Rashford/Martial/Mata et all "arent good enough" is giving Jose a free pass. Even Lindehof and Fred were excellent for their previous clubs so there is clearly something not right with his  methods. And if they are not good enough then why were they bought?

Klopp to an extent went through the same thing in that there were glaring deficiencies at CH and GK which  went unaddressed for a period and Liverpool suffered. However he held out for the right players in his mind (albeit at eye watering figures) and hopefully Liverpool are seeing the benefit now.  Mourhino has a point when he says that Klopp/Poch are lauded by the media while finishing below him but both Spurs and Liverpool played attractive football for all their deficiencies and  the fans backed Klopp to the hilt during that time. This might be due to lower expectations but Mourinho is his own worst enemy with his petulant spoilt brat antics. He was used to being the biggest dog in the yard for years and refuses to accept that any responsibility lies with him for poor performances.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: August 29, 2018, 11:14:11 AM »
He also spent 20 mil on Delot a defender this summer.

To be fair I think he is injured.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: August 29, 2018, 10:48:48 AM »
What was the deal with playing Herrera in a back 3? Trying to prove a point or actual tactics involved?

5 very winnable games coming up so pressure will most likely have lifted by the next time they play a top 6 side.

He needed a base to launch his tactical masterstroke of putting Fellani upfront.

I actually didnt think Utd were that bad on Monday night. They outplayed a good Spurs team for half an hour and should have taken the lead. Spurs were then clinical in that 2 minute burst and suddenly they were chasing the game which was obviously going to expose them at the back.  I think Liverpool have Spurs, City and Chelsea in their next 5 games so positions could be very different at the end of September.

The bigger issue seems to be his attitude that he is above criticism. I like the way he wants respect for the fact  he has won 3 Premier Leagues but it is the players fault when things are going badly. He spent £60m plus on a centre back pairing, £90m on a central/attacking midfielder, £80m on two defensive midfielders, one of whom was in the top 2 midfielders in the Premier League the year before, £80m on a striker and got + £60m plus of value for Sanchez. He inherited the best keeper in the world, throw in the talent that Martial/Lingaard and Rashford have and he cannot get them to function as a team. BUt apparently he has not been backed by the Board...

At some point he has to take some responsibility but I just do not think that is in his makeup, he always has to blame someone else.

 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Rule Change Needed to Stop Puke Keep-Ball
« on: August 28, 2018, 03:12:40 PM »
Kieran Donaghy (on Parkinson's podcast) in favour of:

- Offensive mark

- Replacement of black card with free brought forward 50 yards. This includes not bothering to take name of player who committed the foul (only wastes time and allows defense to reorganise, plus the 50 yards is punishment enough). And if the cynical foul took place anywhere inside the 21, then it's a penalty.

Not sure about the offensive mark myself. I wouldn't be long getting sick of watching O'Gara making great catches, then kicking the ball a mile wide!

50 yard idea is from Aussie Rules. I haven't seen it in practice, but Donaghy was very keen on it. Sounds a bit far. Maybe 30 yards, with proviso that the free has to be taken out of the hands, to keep things moving.

It was definitely a good point he made that for a team defending a lead late on, it actual benefits them to receive cards as it slows the game down further.

Like this idea. Works really well in Aussie Rules albeit a bigger pitch. 50 yard penalties in AFL are typically for either late hits in a marking contest or holding a player who has marked/running across the "Mark"/kicking ball away after a free. Effectively penalises tactics that a team might use to slow down the team with the ball and so it encourages quick ball movement. No issue with the offensive mark either as it encourages quick ball into the forward.

I would be a fan  of extending the advantage rule as well so that the ref can whistle for a foul but the fouled player has the option of playing on. i.e. he can decide to fist pass, take a solo etc. This does not give the offending team time to get back in position etc after a cynical foul.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 24, 2018, 03:29:37 PM »
Why would you want to get rid of FSG at this stage?

They've put their money where their mouth is - backed the manager financially, redeveloping Anfield from within.

No complaints with them all.  When they took over Liverpool as a club had been badly run for a couple of decades, under developed and nowhere near tapping into its massive potential (global name and fanbase). They have slowly but surely moved the club forward and should they wish to sell, they will get a nice windfall.  They will leave the club in a far better place than they found it.

Absolutely. They have delivered on pretty much all their committments and put Liverpool on a footing where they can compete with anyone.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 24, 2018, 07:14:48 AM »
Arab group apparently made an offer last year of £2bn. Serious return for FSG given they paid £300m for the club, even with the level of investment they have overseen.

https://www.reuters.com/article/soccer-england-liverpool-sale/cousin-of-manchester-city-owner-failed-in-offer-for-liverpool-daily-mail-idUSL3N1VE6FF?rpc=401&

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 20, 2018, 10:27:22 PM »
Woy reckons that palace should have had a penalty for Virgil cleaning out Meyer....Sky show it as the interview is happening and itís not even close. ::) ::)

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 20, 2018, 09:55:00 PM »
Good result. Thatís a decent palace team.

Salah and Bobby a bit off the pace but Van Dijk is a beast. Would Liverpool have held on last year??

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General discussion / Re: Vaping
« on: August 17, 2018, 02:21:08 PM »
Iíd echo milltowns sentiments

Same as that. Just hope it does not become more accepted in the likes of pubs, trains etc. Regardless of whether there are any health effects, its still annoying.

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General discussion / Vaping
« on: August 17, 2018, 01:13:50 PM »
Just wondering what the general consensus on vaping is? Some UK MPs pushing for a more widespread acceptance of vaping in public. It does seem to be getting a lot more popular in Ireland.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaping-trains-public-transport-ecigarettes-smoking-trains-health-risks-cancer-symptoms-a8495186.html

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