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General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: Today at 11:05:49 AM »
Awful to see an injury like that to a star player at the top of his game. Foles is a much higher than average backup though so I wouldn't rule them out. AFC is going to be fun with the Jags, Steelers and Chargers looking the most likely to topple the borg.

The Bears tour of the AFC North continued apace. Trubisky's best game so far.

Tough break for Wentz. Was on target for the MVP in my view.
Dont know if it has been mentioned on here already but I did not realise until I watched the Pittsburgh game that Ryan Shazier's injury was as serious. Spinal surgery. The NFL is a great game to watch but some of the hits are unbelievable. 15 stone plus guys who can sprint at a pace that would not look out of place at the Olympics colliding at full pelt must be brutal on the body, even with the padding.

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General discussion / Re: Investments
« on: Today at 10:55:22 AM »
The thing that attracts my attention about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, is where can you actually spend them? I understand firms like PayPal and Microsoft take them, but the majority donít and I donít see a situation where youíre going to be walking into Centra and paying for your loaf of bread and bottle of milk with a crypto currency, or paying the barman down the local with Bitcoin for your pint of Guinness. Most people seem to be investing in it simply because the value keeps increasing. I think there are similarities to the dotcom boom in that everybody kept buying and buying, inflating the price further and further before the market eventually recognised that these companiesí revenues were nowhere near their valuation, never mind profits. Incidentally, Bitcoin futures started training today for the first time and didnít have the greatest of receptions by the market.

I agree with most of your post except this. Look how much less cash is used now since ten years ago. The missus never carries notes or coins anymore. Most people pay by card and paying by phone is getting much more widely accepted. In another ten years i fully expect cash to have reduced even more as phone and biometric methods of payment take over. In this scenario, your phone "wallet"/fingerprint/chip in your wrist can be linked back to a bitcoin account as easily as any other currency.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 01:35:50 PM »
I seem to remember Moreno is the previous or one of the previous CL games besides the Sevilla one having a comical outing. Certainly Liverpool supporting guys I know think he's absolutely terrible but maybe I'm giving the Sevilla game too big a weighting as it's one of the few I've seen.

The best you can hope for the in the CL knockout draw is avoiding one of the big guns. Nothing easy at this stage in truth.

I think the problem is that Moreno's errors tend to be catastrophic. He can have a great game for 89 minutes but is always liable to make an error which will be the one highlighted and remembered if you have not seen the whole game.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 01:31:07 PM »
Do the lads who think it was a pen think Salah's goal should have been disallowed for his push on the Everton left back?

Funny I was thinking that as well. It was more of a shove than the penalty! For what its worth I think the ref got both right albeit I could see how either could have went the other way as both were borderline

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 12:26:26 PM »
On the bright side, Gomez had some game yesterday. Been playing very well the past few weeks.


I've actually seen Liverpool a few times on TV recently and Gomez has impressed me. Salah is just brilliant....have to say I like watching the guy play. Another example of Mourinho's great management I think?

Moreno is one of the worst professional soccer players I've ever seen....robbing a living.

Thats harsh. Bar the horror show against Sevilla in the second half Moreno has been solid all year. Robertson would be my preference though, much more solid defensively. Unfortunately as has been proven too many times by Liverpool this year, individual defensive errors are proving very costly.

You wonder if Gomez is ever going to be transitioned to CB or if Klopp sees him as a Full back only.

Porto in the next round of the CL. Happy enough with that. Will not be easy but glad to have avoided Juve and Real. Both Manchester clubs will be happy with their draws.

Porto in the last 16

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:14:24 PM »
As one sided a 1-1 draw as I've ever seen  ;D
Game should have been done and dusted but fair play to Everton they held on and took their chance.
No problem with the penalty. It was f**king stupid from Lovern.
Big chance missed to go 3rd.

Mane miss just before half time was awful. You would never see the likes of Messi shooting there.  Roll it across the box and it's 2 nil. 

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 08, 2017, 02:05:51 PM »
Speaking of Jordan Henderson - when's the last time the England Captain was dropped and hi club won 7-0???  ;D

was wondering about that the other night, last legs for that lad I'd say, workmanlike but wouldnt fit in the Pools long term plans i'd imagine

Dont know about that. I think he will always feature against the "bigger" teams when the front four dont all play. His attitude and willingness to get stuck in is still important in certain games, i just think against the weaker teams he slows the game down too much. LLanna coming back though could hurt him as well.

What happens with Can in January could also impact on his role. If Can does leave (or sign a precontract) as seems likely, Klopp might be less inclined to play him as much.

Thought Can was a good fit for Liverpool.... Henderson is horses for courses type player, every club needs them, as do Utd

I like Can,  technically he is very good and he has a great ability to drive at team down the middle but his positional play is not great.  A Kante/Makele type would be ideal but they are hard to come. I hope he does sign a new contract but I think he clearly sees his future elsewhere so good luck to him.

I'm convinced a lot of the bad press Henderson gets is by people who do not watch the full game.  I have seen most of Liverpool's games this year and the amount of work he gets through is staggering. Generally nothing flashy so the only thing that makes it onto MOTD highlights is the mistakes etc. Funnily enough he is the polar opposite of Pogba.  If you watch Utd's game on MOTD and you will see the 4-5 pectacular things Pogba does during a game and he looks brilliant but you do not pick up on any periods where he disappears/strolls about etc as Seanie alluded to. No matter what is happening in a Liverpool game Henderson will be demanding the ball and getting involved (for better or worse). Not trying to compare the two but just agree it is horses and courses. 3-4 different managers have made him captain of pretty high profile teams so he obviously has something about him.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 08, 2017, 01:12:44 PM »
Brexiters feel shit. . . Remainers feel a small bit of relief.

Not exactly a victory for anyone!!

The sign of a good compromise.

This is what the DUP just dont get in "negotiations". Act like a spoilt kid (i.e. Sammy/Gregory/Nigel etc smug faces and triumphalism) when you have a "win" and the people you are dealing with say "never again". The deal this morning has just kicked the can down the road to a time when there are more factors that can be thrown in the mix to do with specifics around trade to get the bigger deal. All in all a decent result for the North.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 08, 2017, 12:48:03 PM »
Speaking of Jordan Henderson - when's the last time the England Captain was dropped and hi club won 7-0???  ;D

was wondering about that the other night, last legs for that lad I'd say, workmanlike but wouldnt fit in the Pools long term plans i'd imagine

Dont know about that. I think he will always feature against the "bigger" teams when the front four dont all play. His attitude and willingness to get stuck in is still important in certain games, i just think against the weaker teams he slows the game down too much. LLanna coming back though could hurt him as well.

What happens with Can in January could also impact on his role. If Can does leave (or sign a precontract) as seems likely, Klopp might be less inclined to play him as much.


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 07, 2017, 04:11:19 PM »
Heís hardly a development prospect but heís at an age where heís still open to improvement possibly down to increased maturity and understanding the game better with age. Hazard and De Bruyne have both turned from really good players at 24 to monsters at 26..

He does lack a bit of concentration at times but I think the lazy jibe is unfair.

Not disputing players can improve but I just think that if you pay  world record fee you expect the full package. I think he is an immense talent and can do things very few other players can but I would be more aligned to Seanie's view that his attitude is poor. Its always been a bug bear of mine where players dont put the effort in, the so called luxury player. Its not just in the big leagues, still annoys me watching reserve club games where you have some guys strolling about when other, (generally less talented) players are busting themselves.

I think Pogba will be vital to United but I dont think he will ever attract the same level of iconic status as the likes of Keane/Giggs. I will always have a soft spot for him for riling Ferguson and costing the Glazers a few months dividends to buy  him back.  ;)

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 07, 2017, 02:48:38 PM »
He does some really great things at times but his concentration and workrate are very, very poor. This is pretty much every match and it's obvious if you look for it. You shouldn't need Souness and Lennon to point it out. He also gives the ball away an awful lot. Mourinho obviously thinks it's worth it but I just don't understand why the bad parts of his game can't be improved. Rashford and Martial had to improve that aspect of their games. Why is this guy so special? It's a team game. It stuns me the free pass he gets. Like last week Rashford makes a 60 yard sprint (passing Pogba on the way) to get to the back post and nod the ball down for Pogba to tap in - all the commentators were raving about Pogba's run to get in on the end of it! Are they blind???!!!!!

At least he wasn't captain last night.

That is very harsh, there's a clear correlation between Pogba in the team and United doing well and when he was injured our results and performances suffer. He certainly has aspects of his game he can improve on mainly his lack if concentration when players drift in behind him and his decision making the odd time, there's no reason he can't improve on both and when he does he'll be one of the top players in the game.

Going forward his passing and vision is fantastic and a lot better than I was expecting, in every game he has produced a moment of brilliance to create a chance and in most games he's done it several times. He's 6'3 and his footwork is probably on a par with someone like Mata, you're been really unfair on him as he's our most important outfield player.

The positives in his game far outweigh the negatives, there's few central midfielders who are capable as playing in a 2 with his ability, he's already one of the best players of his type and once Mourinho improves those aspects of his game he'll be some player.

Must be great to have the luxury of paying a  World record fee for a development prospect.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:20:21 PM »
Dunphy just now on RTE.
Liverpool fans are knowledgeable and have a connection with their club unlike say Man United fans..
Lol.

United have plenty of morons as fans with a good few on here. Probably not tonight though as they only appear when Liverpool get beat.

 However this is just a typical bullshit comment by Dunphy designed to get some controversy going  and some air time for him.   United are no different to the other big clubs in this respect. Dunphy is just an attention seeking bollox

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:54:09 PM »
Leipzig not qualifying at the minute which might be helpful in January.
Don't think it will make any difference. They are 2nd in the German league and will be in Europa as well so I can't see them letting Keita go until the summer.

How many points behind are they in the league? Leipzig have said he won't be let go in Jan but you never know.

Some strike by Mane and hopefully couthinho gets given that one

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:35:45 PM »
Leipzig not qualifying at the minute which might be helpful in January.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:13:54 PM »
3-0 now.
Dangerous lead...

Couple more now to make it comfortable. ..

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