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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 12:08:02 PM »
The thing that a lot of you miss is that no one pulls on the jersey to play for Mickey Harte. It's Tyrone they want to play for. I know the relationship with the manager is important but it can be overstated. Always whispers about people not getting on with Mickey Harte but it's very rare you see a first 15 player walk away from the panel. It's usually guys frustrated at not getting on.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 10:46:03 AM »
Quare silly **** to walk away from 100 grand for playing football. He stays if you ask me, at least until the contract is up

It's probably more than that so very hard to walk away from. But if he really isn't happy out there then it's hard to know what to do. If someone offered you big money to work away from your family/friends etc for next 7 years and told you that you wouldn't be happy would you do it anyway? To me money is important but certainly not everything.

It's not as if he's been out a few months and isn't enjoying it. He might be better taking a year out coming home and getting it out of his system. Would still likely be welcomed back next year if he has a change of heart. Clarke went home then back and McKenna is at an age where its bound to be an option. If he wants to stay at home hopefully he is looked after in terms of education/job.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 08:17:57 AM »
He could come back and fit in quickly, or he could come back and simply not be as good as we imagined.  I always look at how good Caolan Mooney was at under-age and the speed he possessed, but he hasn't set the world alight for Down since he came back.  As mentioned, being unreal at minor is seemingly a jinx in Tyrone, whether thats an issue with the management or something else, I don't know - see Mulgrew, Coney, O'Neill.

Mooney came back with injury problems but has improved since.

In terms of the minors not making it you could find loads of examples of good minors not making it in all counties. There is a lot more physicality needed at senior level and that's where some of our players have struggled, O'Neill wasn't helped by injuries at a crucial time. You could find plenty of examples of good minors making it Tyrone in the last 20 years - starting with the 97/98 team, then the likes of Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly, Harte etc.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 08:03:12 AM »
what sort of money are the top afl players on

Millions of Aussie dollars between contract and sponsorships. McKenna is in the top 10 best players at his club so big money would have been on the horizon. Heís mad in the head moving home if heís just homesick. If there is something else more serious then itís totally understandable to come home.

I don't think he is anywhere near earning millions of Aussie Dollars. But he would still be earning good money. But life isn't all about money and it sounds like he's been struggling out there for a long time. 5 years is a long time for a lad to go away from home if he's not happy. You can't put a price tag for example on spending time with family and friends. Hopefully he makes the decision which is best for himself. If he does want home hopefully he can get a good education and job. It would be great to see him back in a Tyrone shirt.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 07, 2020, 12:02:14 PM »
The boys on here complaining about McShane getting this job and using it to criticise Harte, would be the same boys that would have been on here complaining about Harte not doing enough to keep him if he'd left. It's great to see a local successful firm helping the people who provide a lot of joy to the county. Fair play to them.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 07, 2020, 10:19:40 AM »
Just thinking wasn't there always a rule in the Tyrone camp that any income earned by a player from various activities e.g. appearances, sessions etc. was all pooled so that everyone got a share of the kitty at the end to prevent the more high profile players making all the loot and others suffering? (Didnt big Sean get into a bit of trouble in this regard?)

If this still applies would Cathal not need to be putting the value into the kitty?

Not sure if that's true or not but it sounds like something that wouldn't work. Like you could have one guy doing 20/30 appearances a year giving up his time and driving round the country and then having to share it with someone who never went near anything.

Maybe if they're asked for a county representative at an event they share it out so everyone gets a turn. I could see that happening.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Paddy Heaney of the irish news!
« on: January 30, 2020, 08:17:09 AM »
Going to be a complete waste of time having him in sports section of paper. Maybe a spot in health and well being or something would have worked. No idea what point of todayís article was, why would you want to read someone talk about sport that has no interest in it?

In fairness what sort of GAA article would you expect in January? Eugene McGee used to write a GAA piece every week for the Longford Leader . He said in an interview that he used to write an awful lot of shite especially in winter.
You should reserve judgement at least until there is a stretch in the evenings.

Did you read the article? I'm guessing it isn't going to be a gaa only column given todays was mainly taken up by him talking about running his own gym and cycling. The rest of it was about how he has little interest in watching sport and almost bragging that he forgot to even check the Derry score at the weekend as he has so little interest in it these days. So not sure what kind of sports article is he going to produce on the back of that.

As I said if it's all going to be about his time in the gym and out cycling in the sperrins the health and well being section would be a better fit for his articles.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Paddy Heaney of the irish news!
« on: January 29, 2020, 08:30:15 PM »
Going to be a complete waste of time having him in sports section of paper. Maybe a spot in health and well being or something would have worked. No idea what point of todayís article was, why would you want to read someone talk about sport that has no interest in it?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 23, 2020, 12:49:22 PM »
Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

If the reserves are played on a different day what's to stop them being on the senior squad? The senior team will still needs subs like is currently the case.

 If anything it would be better for a reserve player being asked to come on for the seniors as he won't have already played a game that day. Also it would mean players not being held back for the senior game who could end up getting little or no game time that week at all.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 21, 2020, 09:34:19 AM »
If proposals go through tonight no one will be relegated. The change to 4 divisions means no team will be relegated this year.

Incorrect, 2 would be relegated from Div 2 and 6 would be promoted from div 3 or they may opt to go with 1 relegated and 5 promoted but there will def be relegation.

Sorry but itís you thatís  incorrect. Was stated numerous times at the meeting that there would be no relegation this year. Division 2 will be made up of bottom 8 teams in Division 2, JFC championship winners and top 3 in Junior. Division 3 will be made up of bottom 12 in Division 3 this year.
There may be a counter proposal tonight regarding this from a club but that is the proposal from CCC
The teams currently in Division 1 who end up in the new Division 1B will definitely view that as a relegation

Possibly so, although it will only be the bottom 4 in the league that will go to Division 1B.. 15 of next years Division 1 will still play senior championship in 2021.

From reading the presentation am I right in saying that the 2021 senior championship will basically be made up of 15 division 1 clubs from this year plus the intermediate championship winners? So only the bottom team in division 1 (unless they win the championship) will miss out on the 2021 senior championship?

Seems a bit unfair that the division 2 league winners don't get into senior championship for 2021.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: January 14, 2020, 10:34:20 AM »
You can avail of Eir sports package if you have eir broadband package via their app.  I do not have sky, Virgin or Eir TV package but I can avail of the Eir sports app for free once my broadband is with eir.  I can then chromecast eir sports from my phone to the TV.  It also includes virgin media sports pack now. (this use to be BT Sports)

But what about the wee old man living in rural Ireland with no access or cant afford broadband. Not fit to leave the house to go to a neighbour or a pub. Him relying on these weekly games to keep him going.

Or the man lying up in hospital with no access to Eir Sport.

Joe was very worried about these people last year when Sky and Eir showing games. He was close to tears telling these sad stories.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 10, 2020, 11:35:45 AM »
McDonnell and grugan actually bossed midfield area in first half last night against two Armagh starters. McDonnell showed great pace bursting forward though was wasteful. Wouldnít shock me if like others before he went on to become a decent county player at some point despite online criticism from boys who donít even go to games.

He may become a good county player but would he get this opportunity to become a good county player if he wasn't from Errigal?  There was plenty of players down through the years with great ability that won't afforded this luxury of getting time to prove their worth.

Colm Cavanagh and Cathal McShane are two non Errigal players given the opportunity over a number of years when many had it in for them saying they shouldn't be near the team. Many people have had issues with the chances given to Conall McCann for example. There are numerous other non Errigal players who's inclusion have been questioned at times.

 Using Errigal to beat these young lads with is very unfair.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 09, 2020, 08:44:06 PM »
McDonnell and grugan actually bossed midfield area in first half last night against two Armagh starters. McDonnell showed great pace bursting forward though was wasteful. Wouldnít shock me if like others before he went on to become a decent county player at some point despite online criticism from boys who donít even go to games.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 09, 2020, 01:21:54 PM »
Did one of der fuhrer's ballygawley disciples drop the ball over his head into the net tonight?

Most of Ireland denigrates Tyrone and the players as individuals severely over the last 20 years or so. Should we not be trying to support players as much as possible, and f**k the rest? No one likes us, we don't care etc. Support helps I would've thought.

The cub made an error. It happens.
unfortunately alot of Tyrone people are fed up with what goes on in the county at the minute. You can't see that?

Would you not be safer going and finding a new hobby that you enjoyed instead of whinging on here about Harte and the county team day after day?

Tyrone scored 3-18 last night and played some lovely football, anyone who actually follows the team will have enjoyed the game.

Similarly it's ridiculous coming on picking on lads because of their clubs. Coalisland men have made plenty of mistakes in Tyrone jerseys too.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 06, 2020, 11:49:44 AM »
You and I both know that Angelo, but why does Harte stutter around when asked the question. Is he trying to make McShane think "If i go ill not get back in" which is complete nonsense

Who knows what toll a few years in Australia could have on his body and what sort of form he'd come back in. Tommy Walsh left Kerry as a star forward and struggled to get back in the Kerry team since. Antrim reached an ulster final with McKeever doing well at midfield and he never got back to county football. There are other examples of players coming back and struggling. You'd like to think if he goes he'd come back in decent shape and make an impact but it's not a certainty.

He could well struggle to make it over there given his age and the money is less than that mentioned so it is a big decision for him to take. A lot will depend whether he fancies the change of lifestyle and living in Australia. Some people love moving away to a better climate etc, some hate being away from family/friends. Another factor to weigh up will be his career - no idea how likely a teaching job is for him.

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