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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 11, 2020, 08:01:36 AM »
The TV money is small in comparison to the gate receipts. If the county season comes back there will be tv money but there will also be a lot of costs associated with running county teams. The season certainly wouldn't generate any fortune without any crowds.

And this business of the gaa only wanting the money is a load of nonsense. If that's all they were interested in (and the tv was going to generate so much money) then they'd be playing the county season right now instead of club football and not waiting to later in the year when there is a far greater risk of things being cancelled.

I'm with rrhf on this one. If it's possible under the current guidelines play away at the county season. Give everyone some sort of an interest during autumn/winter other than premier league soccer. You here people say scrap it to March etc when it is highly likely things then won't be any different to now. You'd think from some people's comments that come 31/12/2020 covid is going to end and everything will just go back to normal. It's something we're going to have to get used to for a while and adopt round it and get on with things as best we can without taking huge risks at times when there is large outbreaks.

GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game 2020
« on: July 04, 2020, 12:51:35 PM »
Antrim - no
Armagh - yes
Cavan - yes
Donegal - yes
Down - yes
Fermanagh - yes
Derry - yes
Monaghan - no
Tyrone - yes

So 7/9 DO have lights...

To be fair, the context was how many have lights AND are suitable for Ulster Championship matches. Is it still 7?

Yes all 7 have held Ulster games in recent years. Monaghan have two grounds with floodlights fit to hold league games.

GAA Discussion / Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« on: June 28, 2020, 07:40:47 AM »
The article says that McCaffrey stepping away was nothing to do with what has happened with Covid  and hinting at it being a retirement but he had just returned to the Dublin panel for the league and had played in the last game against Tyrone and would almost certainly had been available for Championship.

I'd say he's looking at the farce of this Championship and uncertainty over it and giving it a miss but will return for 2021.

He's not as big a loss for a muddy winter football football Championship as he would be on the solid turf in the summer months.

Does put a little more pressure on Farrell though.

Most if not all Dublin games will be played in croke park if it goes ahead. The weather might be an issue but thereíll be no issue over the surface - itíll still be top class.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: June 12, 2020, 02:59:48 PM »
The drawing of clubs into groups randomly, is just that too random!  You could end up with two imbalanced groups
Would it not have been reasonable to use last years league placings  and go 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15  places in one group and the evens in another .

Itís a new season and everybody probably deserves to be treated equally given there wasnít advance warning. Even if one group is stronger and you finish in bottom two you get a play off against a bottom two team from other group. If your challenging for league title then you need to beat top teams either way.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: June 11, 2020, 08:37:49 PM »
Option 1 all the way

Option 2 looks more sensible to me. Option 1 involves dragging the season into bad weather and if a second wave were to hit make it a farce. Option 2 would allow a nice sharp season.

Also with option 1 thereíll be big issue with county men if Tyrone have a run. Teams with county players wonít want to be relegated due to having weak teams out. If they scrap relegation then thereís a risk of meaningless games after the championship. Even with relegation teams out of championship and safe will no doubt throw in the towel earlier than normal even. Leading to points thrown all over the show.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: March 01, 2020, 11:00:01 AM »
Tyrone beat kerry and dublin in bogs and think they are great. Hiding the truth about a lot of failings but who cares.

If you donít care donít comment.

Having got hammered last week, without the two best forwards, and then conceding an early goal to the best team of all time who rarely lose Tyrone could have easily lay down and took a hiding last night. It might mean nothing in the long term but last night when the chips were down the team stood up worked their asses of and ground out a win.

Their work rate, attitude, handling and movement was excellent. Morgan who used to get serious flack on here was excellent again. As were most of the team. The likes of meyler, rafferty and burns created opportunities by direct running. Harte was very good up front and the likes of Cavanagh (who is clean done apparently) put in a big shift.

The lads deserve credit for the win and hopefully can build on it.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 12:08:02 PM »
The thing that a lot of you miss is that no one pulls on the jersey to play for Mickey Harte. It's Tyrone they want to play for. I know the relationship with the manager is important but it can be overstated. Always whispers about people not getting on with Mickey Harte but it's very rare you see a first 15 player walk away from the panel. It's usually guys frustrated at not getting on.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 10:46:03 AM »
Quare silly **** to walk away from 100 grand for playing football. He stays if you ask me, at least until the contract is up

It's probably more than that so very hard to walk away from. But if he really isn't happy out there then it's hard to know what to do. If someone offered you big money to work away from your family/friends etc for next 7 years and told you that you wouldn't be happy would you do it anyway? To me money is important but certainly not everything.

It's not as if he's been out a few months and isn't enjoying it. He might be better taking a year out coming home and getting it out of his system. Would still likely be welcomed back next year if he has a change of heart. Clarke went home then back and McKenna is at an age where its bound to be an option. If he wants to stay at home hopefully he is looked after in terms of education/job.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 08:17:57 AM »
He could come back and fit in quickly, or he could come back and simply not be as good as we imagined.  I always look at how good Caolan Mooney was at under-age and the speed he possessed, but he hasn't set the world alight for Down since he came back.  As mentioned, being unreal at minor is seemingly a jinx in Tyrone, whether thats an issue with the management or something else, I don't know - see Mulgrew, Coney, O'Neill.

Mooney came back with injury problems but has improved since.

In terms of the minors not making it you could find loads of examples of good minors not making it in all counties. There is a lot more physicality needed at senior level and that's where some of our players have struggled, O'Neill wasn't helped by injuries at a crucial time. You could find plenty of examples of good minors making it Tyrone in the last 20 years - starting with the 97/98 team, then the likes of Cavanagh, Mattie Donnelly, Harte etc.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2020, 08:03:12 AM »
what sort of money are the top afl players on

Millions of Aussie dollars between contract and sponsorships. McKenna is in the top 10 best players at his club so big money would have been on the horizon. Heís mad in the head moving home if heís just homesick. If there is something else more serious then itís totally understandable to come home.

I don't think he is anywhere near earning millions of Aussie Dollars. But he would still be earning good money. But life isn't all about money and it sounds like he's been struggling out there for a long time. 5 years is a long time for a lad to go away from home if he's not happy. You can't put a price tag for example on spending time with family and friends. Hopefully he makes the decision which is best for himself. If he does want home hopefully he can get a good education and job. It would be great to see him back in a Tyrone shirt.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 07, 2020, 12:02:14 PM »
The boys on here complaining about McShane getting this job and using it to criticise Harte, would be the same boys that would have been on here complaining about Harte not doing enough to keep him if he'd left. It's great to see a local successful firm helping the people who provide a lot of joy to the county. Fair play to them.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 07, 2020, 10:19:40 AM »
Just thinking wasn't there always a rule in the Tyrone camp that any income earned by a player from various activities e.g. appearances, sessions etc. was all pooled so that everyone got a share of the kitty at the end to prevent the more high profile players making all the loot and others suffering? (Didnt big Sean get into a bit of trouble in this regard?)

If this still applies would Cathal not need to be putting the value into the kitty?

Not sure if that's true or not but it sounds like something that wouldn't work. Like you could have one guy doing 20/30 appearances a year giving up his time and driving round the country and then having to share it with someone who never went near anything.

Maybe if they're asked for a county representative at an event they share it out so everyone gets a turn. I could see that happening.

GAA Discussion / Re: Paddy Heaney of the irish news!
« on: January 30, 2020, 08:17:09 AM »
Going to be a complete waste of time having him in sports section of paper. Maybe a spot in health and well being or something would have worked. No idea what point of todayís article was, why would you want to read someone talk about sport that has no interest in it?

In fairness what sort of GAA article would you expect in January? Eugene McGee used to write a GAA piece every week for the Longford Leader . He said in an interview that he used to write an awful lot of shite especially in winter.
You should reserve judgement at least until there is a stretch in the evenings.

Did you read the article? I'm guessing it isn't going to be a gaa only column given todays was mainly taken up by him talking about running his own gym and cycling. The rest of it was about how he has little interest in watching sport and almost bragging that he forgot to even check the Derry score at the weekend as he has so little interest in it these days. So not sure what kind of sports article is he going to produce on the back of that.

As I said if it's all going to be about his time in the gym and out cycling in the sperrins the health and well being section would be a better fit for his articles.

GAA Discussion / Re: Paddy Heaney of the irish news!
« on: January 29, 2020, 08:30:15 PM »
Going to be a complete waste of time having him in sports section of paper. Maybe a spot in health and well being or something would have worked. No idea what point of todayís article was, why would you want to read someone talk about sport that has no interest in it?

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 23, 2020, 12:49:22 PM »
Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

If the reserves are played on a different day what's to stop them being on the senior squad? The senior team will still needs subs like is currently the case.

 If anything it would be better for a reserve player being asked to come on for the seniors as he won't have already played a game that day. Also it would mean players not being held back for the senior game who could end up getting little or no game time that week at all.

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