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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 27, 2017, 11:36:54 PM »
God, the amount of Arse licking on this thread would make you sick. This is the beginning of semi-pro. What Dublin are already. As I said earlier. Dublin will play all their games at home in Croker. The spin (to use the pun) of them travelling to Ballybofey is for those on cloud cocoo land. Asking lads who have jobs to tog out nearly every week in July and August is really taking advantage. But hey Sky sports will be happy and corporate boxes have to be used and abused.

And the amount of unfounded moaning is fairly sickening too. There's been lads on this boarding heralding every change as the start of professionalism in the GAA and they were, like you are now, wrong. The numbers don't add up.

Jesus, complaining about lads playing football must take the biscuit. Do lads not play games every week in the league, or do they not work in the spring? They'll play and then do two easy training sessions and play again. Ideal for many young fit athletes.

It's clear there are a lot of lads who will complain and throw unfounded criticisms based on their own unsupported views. Lets see how this works out and if it's the world ending disaster some here believe it will be then we can go back to the current format.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 27, 2017, 10:50:23 PM »
The discussion here is mirrored nationally and just underlines why congress were right to pass this. There is no proposal that will make everyone happy and be get passed in congress. Given the need to retain the provincials then the super 8's is as good an option as any. Reading the players criticism on twitter was revealing because solving some players issues would only make other players issues worse. Again, highlighting the impossible position the GAA are in.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 27, 2017, 06:58:28 PM »
HAD OF BEEN ..

Black Card.

Does the extra time provision not apply to the hurley shtuff? ?

ET applies to both codes.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 27, 2017, 06:57:21 PM »
Surely these proposals will actually be good for club football
Yes there will be a lot of county games in July / August
But that's no different from now. ( with most of the weaker counties knocked out by that stage anyway) 
The fact that the season is over the last week in August
Allows the club season to effectively be played in September / October / November
Surely that is a much better alternative than what's in place now.

Also the Dubs will have to play two championship games away from Croke Park
Which will add a lot of interesting games. The likes of Kerry won't have a cake walk to the
Final every year oi they had to go away to Ballybofey or somewhere.
The only thing that's missing is atwo tiered structure with the second tier  playing final at All Ire final.
Overall I think it's actually a better deal for club players
As the club championships will take place in sept/ Oct/ Dec no matter what


This line made me smile! Do you honestly think that they (the GAA Hierarchy)will have Dublin playing outside Croker in the Championship? You are really naive if you think that. Think about it? This has more games in Croker written all over it!

That's complete nonsense. Talk about fake news!! It's in the motion that each team gets one home game so it's impossible for the Dublin to play all three games at home unless the home team gives up home advantage and I doubt many would do that. In fairness, lads are giving out about this on numerous fronts but giving out about something that won't happen is pretty daft.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 26, 2017, 12:17:56 AM »
Not rising and I know you are not against more high profile games but I'm struggling to find what you're against. You're for the provincials and more games for the weaker teams, if so, how do we do that?

I'm NOT against it. How many times do I have to say that?  As far as I'm concerned its just a few extra games after the provincials, so rock on.

And also, where did I say I'm for more games for the weaker teams? Sure I'd do away with the qualifiers.

Ok, so you are for this? Why do away with the qualifiers?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 26, 2017, 12:03:22 AM »
Not rising and I know you are not against more high profile games but I'm struggling to find what you're against. You're for the provincials and more games for the weaker teams, if so, how do we do that?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:40:32 PM »
So you agree, this is good?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:30:45 PM »
Ok.

Point 1. Provincial winners get a second chance

Point 2. More high profile games

Point 3. No easy paths to All Ireland SF

Point 4. Big games at local venues giving families a better opportunity to see games

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:18:19 PM »
I saw you're not against it but you still seem to be complaining about it!! It isn't perfect but worth a try, can we agree on that???!!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:13:24 PM »
I'm asking because you are criticising the new system. I think the current system is  a disaster and the new one falls short but I support the new one because it is better. You seem to be against both.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:06:36 PM »
What does what mean?

You've made it clear that you like the big boys clashing at the end of the year, and the more often the better. Fine. To be honest I don't give a shite about the big boys. They are always ok.

You sneer at provincial championships. I don't, I like the, and I think I am in the majority there. So I would like a way, if we have to fix some nebulous problem, to make sure the provincials are part of that.


I find your attitude on this very condescending.

And again, I've said several times I'm not against this, I just think it's a bit of window dressing.

AZ, you're a good poster but when you accuse me of being condensing while saying I'm all about seeing the big boys clashing, well just say that's nonsense. Neither do I sneer at provincials, I just think they are central to our problems. Please put forward a proposal where the provincials are central to a format where weaker teams are helped and the sport is promoted?

You don't sneer at provincials, you would just get rid of them in the morning, thanks for clarifying.

Provincial championships, seeded such that weaker teams play each other in earlier rounds, with seedings based in league final position. No back doors,no qualifiers.

That would be fundamental reform, but so simple to do.

Why would Waterford, Carlow, Wicklow want to play each other early so they could get beaten by the same teams they always got beaten by?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 10:59:07 PM »
What does what mean?

You've made it clear that you like the big boys clashing at the end of the year, and the more often the better. Fine. To be honest I don't give a shite about the big boys. They are always ok.

You sneer at provincial championships. I don't, I like the, and I think I am in the majority there. So I would like a way, if we have to fix some nebulous problem, to make sure the provincials are part of that.



I detest the provincials. In 100 years, our grandchildren will be laughing that, in sport, there was a competition which saw 4 competitions - one with 9 teams, one with 7 although two of them weren't in Ireland, another with 6 and another with 12 teams, to reach the same stage and some teams in the smaller groupings played less than others in it. And some teams played 4 games, without replays, to reach the quarter finals and others played 2 to do the same. But people liked it cos it was traditional.

Fair enough, I like them. And I like them because it gives mid tier teams a somewhat realistic target every year, and high stakes games against close rivals.

I'd have no problem with 4 8 team provincials though. North South East and West.

It doesn't do that though and it certainly isn't the only format that can do that.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 10:57:21 PM »
The central problem is the money and the coaching it provides and the GAA's unwillingness to split a county that is the size of most of the rest of the country combined because it's a cash cow, and well you know it Zulu.

I'd have thought you'd be out celebrating a Dublin president and an elitist addition to the championship calendar..

Syferus, you come across as a genuine passionate GAA man but you talk some shite. Just try to talk some sense and we might be able to discuss these things.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The enemy within
« on: February 25, 2017, 10:52:01 PM »
RRHF, I just don't see how this country can sustain even a 8-team professional league.

It can't. I'd love to hear a single positive suggestion from the moaners here. Too many around here are willing to abuse good GAA men without a single suggestion themselves.
Haven't read back but who is abusing anybody? Surely we all know that The club structure in the Gaa cledar needed organised before a money making racket of a plan for some counties was imposed. You build a good house from the ground up. Unless we are planning a different house here!
You, and all those club players are just anti-GAA.

Not directly on this thread but both Aoghan and Paraic have been abused in others and implied on this thread. Can the experts please lay out the real solutions?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 10:44:08 PM »
What does what mean?

You've made it clear that you like the big boys clashing at the end of the year, and the more often the better. Fine. To be honest I don't give a shite about the big boys. They are always ok.

You sneer at provincial championships. I don't, I like the, and I think I am in the majority there. So I would like a way, if we have to fix some nebulous problem, to make sure the provincials are part of that.


I find your attitude on this very condescending.

And again, I've said several times I'm not against this, I just think it's a bit of window dressing.

AZ, you're a good poster but when you accuse me of being condensing while saying I'm all about seeing the big boys clashing, well just say that's nonsense. Neither do I sneer at provincials, I just think they are central to our problems. Please put forward a proposal where the provincials are central to a format where weaker teams are helped and the sport is promoted?

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