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Probably posted here before but there's just something so sad yet seriously uplifting about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijDcHT9Zl8U

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: June 24, 2019, 08:24:01 AM »
Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.


I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

Wake up man.  Could you provide any examples of instances when the DUP's position could not be moved when money was waved in front of them?  Because I can provide countless examples where the opposite is true.  Paisley, the devout Christian that he is, championed the cause of a blatantly anti-Christian government when they offered him a couple of nice holidays!

Anyway, I suspect that money might not be required.  The DUP will agree to this when they finally wake up to the reality that the alternative (in the medium term) is likely to be the reunification of Ireland.

Ok. Whatever. The DUP will wake up and agree. We’ll go with that idea sure.

I suspect they've already woken up.  I think they're looking for any excuse to change but they just can't be seen to do such a blatant u-turn.

Reckon it'll play out like JC has said.  A few titles, a few quid, a bit of fancy re-wording and hey presto.

Have you taken a blow to the head? Are you feeling ok? You’re talking like someone who’s not familiar with NI political parties.

Yeah yeah, play the man etc etc.

What the DUP do and what the DUP be seen to do are entirely different things.  They'll support whatever it takes to keep the gravy train rolling as long as it can be worded in such a way that they can publicly defend it.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: June 21, 2019, 04:30:13 PM »
Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.


I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

Wake up man.  Could you provide any examples of instances when the DUP's position could not be moved when money was waved in front of them?  Because I can provide countless examples where the opposite is true.  Paisley, the devout Christian that he is, championed the cause of a blatantly anti-Christian government when they offered him a couple of nice holidays!

Anyway, I suspect that money might not be required.  The DUP will agree to this when they finally wake up to the reality that the alternative (in the medium term) is likely to be the reunification of Ireland.

Ok. Whatever. The DUP will wake up and agree. We’ll go with that idea sure.

I suspect they've already woken up.  I think they're looking for any excuse to change but they just can't be seen to do such a blatant u-turn.

Reckon it'll play out like JC has said.  A few titles, a few quid, a bit of fancy re-wording and hey presto.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: June 21, 2019, 03:18:52 PM »
Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.


I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

Wake up man.  Could you provide any examples of instances when the DUP's position could not be moved when money was waved in front of them?  Because I can provide countless examples where the opposite is true.  Paisley, the devout Christian that he is, championed the cause of a blatantly anti-Christian government when they offered him a couple of nice holidays!

Anyway, I suspect that money might not be required.  The DUP will agree to this when they finally wake up to the reality that the alternative (in the medium term) is likely to be the reunification of Ireland.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: June 21, 2019, 07:52:34 AM »
Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

Nonsense, the DUP will do anything if the price is right.

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General discussion / Re: You know what really grinds my gears?
« on: June 19, 2019, 10:34:52 AM »
Loading screens on computers - go like lightning to 99 (or even 100%) in 15 seconds, then pause for 2 minutes.

I'm sure there's a technical reason for this, but's it's very annoying.  Why isn't the percentage indicative of the time left?

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: June 04, 2019, 10:56:58 PM »
We didn't need to hear it as we knew it already... but the prize for no deal is that the US gets it's grubby mitts on the NHS.

Confirmed today by the orangutan.

Can wait until the legal US drug dealing conglomerates get in the door here.

Divide and conquer.

The first decent thing Teresa May has done in a long time was get him to confirm that!!!

Totally f**ks the Brexiteers up there is no way that the country wants to lose the NHS not a f**king chance and now Remain have something concrete to use for the next election/confirmatory vote etc.

Video of Farage talking about moving to an insurance type system as well this should be gold to remain politicians and they need to drive it home!!

Genuinely think that a lot of these fcukwits have become so entrenched that if you showed them that Brexit irrefutably meant certain death, they'd chance it anyway.  For t'save uh'country.

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General discussion / Re: Running
« on: June 04, 2019, 10:49:00 PM »
A watch won’t make you run better, but knock yourself out

Jesus wept.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: June 04, 2019, 05:01:53 PM »
We didn't need to hear it as we knew it already... but the prize for no deal is that the US gets it's grubby mitts on the NHS.

Confirmed today by the orangutan.

Can wait until the legal US drug dealing conglomerates get in the door here.

Divide and conquer.


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General discussion / Re: You know what really grinds my gears?
« on: June 03, 2019, 10:30:16 PM »
Because in heavy traffic the cyclist will always come out ahead. What's the point of putting a rider's life at risk to squeeze past him only to be passed by him again two seconds later at the next red light? I would really like to know.

You're throwing in conditions now.  Granted, in heavy traffic, where there are small gaps between sets of lights, there's no need for a car to overtake the cyclist.  But only in this specific instance.

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General discussion / Re: You know what really grinds my gears?
« on: June 03, 2019, 10:25:58 PM »
If it's such a pain in the neck to pass a cyclist, why pass him? Stay behind him until the next light. You're not going to get there any quicker.

How do you work that out?

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General discussion / Re: You know what really grinds my gears?
« on: June 03, 2019, 10:21:34 PM »
I am a cyclist and cyclists can be arseholes. breaking red lights makes no logical sense when the light is red for a reason, usually that reason being traffic coming from another direction so theres a chance you could be killed. I hate also how say a stream of cars has overtook you, then at a light the cyclist moves up through the traffic to the front of the cars again, meaning everyone has to take extra risks by overtaking again, including the cyclists (if you have experienced how some cars overtake)

So it's okay for cars to pass the cyclist but not okay for the cyclist to pass the cars? How does that work? Go to youtube and look for MGIF, the Must Get In Front drivers who feel the need to take a cyclist's life in their hands and squeeze past them at an unsafe distance just to get sitting at that red light for a second longer, only to be passed by the cyclist again a few seconds later.

Yes.  It would be good manners for a cyclist, when sitting at lights, to stay behind any cars which have passed them.  By overtaking these cars again they will only be holding them up once again, when the light goes green.  The cyclist who feels the need to overtake cars again at traffic lights is being a total arse, given that the only gain they make by doing so is that they get the privilege of stopping and waiting for the light to change a few yards further up the road.

I'm a cyclist and I'm all for protecting the rights of cyclists as road users, but there's no need to be a p***k about it.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 30, 2019, 05:33:00 PM »
not one post on the day of the actual Heysel disaster.
On a liverpool thread.

Ye have very selective memory lads.
RIP to the 39 fans who never came home.

Firstly, it's not the day of the disaster, it's the anniversary of the disaster.

Secondly, wise up you absolute f**king disgrace of a human.*

*From an non-Liverpool supporter.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 30, 2019, 05:30:35 PM »
Can't you ever just post a link and leave it at that?

Cut him a bit of slack... the link is behind a paywall.

And before you go down the 'he's killing journalism' rabbit hole... I can't see too many GAABoarders having an issue with us getting one over on the Barclay brothers.

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General discussion / Re: Elections North and South
« on: May 28, 2019, 03:44:18 PM »
Any port in a storm I suppose.

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