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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2019
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:41:52 PM »
No word at all here about Donegal and Fermanagh. We're all busy with more important things I guess!

Looking forward to the game, as always with the first run out in the championship, even if Brewster Park has a few bad memories for us. Last time I was there (been in the US quite a few years now) was for the 2003 meeting which was down there with Crossmaglen 2010 for shockingly poor Donegal performances and one of the worst games I've ever seen.

I guess we are warm favourites for this, but I don't expect anything close to the one-sided affair that was the Ulster final. I think if we turn up, we should win by three or four points after a tight enough game. You never know in Ulster though!

Be interesting to see what team lines out for us. With McBrearty back, assuming he starts, we have a lot of options up front (MacNiallais's absence notwithstanding), although it would be hard to see Oisin Gallen being squeezed in too (might find Ulster Championship football at bit different to the league too as a young lad). Maybe they'll play Murphy centre forward and go with McBrearty, Gallen and Brennan, but where do you put Niall O'Donnell then, another young lad who had a good league?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 15, 2019, 11:42:01 AM »
Any sign of those 'justice for Suarez' t-shirts lads?

if you want to talk about a club with absolutely zero morals




Didn't agree with that at the time. Leave your whataboutery at the door.

Dalglish was misguided and the club as a whole handled that issue very poorly. Henry/Werner had to intervene themselves in the end and force them to draw a line under it and make Dalglish and Suarez apologize after the Old Trafford handshake snub. Personally, I think it was a factor in Dalglish getting the boot after the 2012 FA Cup final.

Whether or not the people within the club genuinely believed Suarez's denials, they should have just put out a statement condemning any kind of racial abuse and publicly supporting Suarez, pending the investigation, gagged the players, and had the PR men and powers that be handle it. Easier said than done, perhaps, with social media, but anything would have been better than the amateur hour that unfolded.

Think how decisively and effectively United dealt with Cantona in 1995. Fair enough, it was a more straightforward, black and white issue, captured for all to see, but Liverpool could have still controlled public statements much better.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 15, 2019, 11:12:26 AM »
Ashamed of nothing, offended by everything

folks, I give you Liverpool FC

by the way, ye lost the league at Goodison

United and Everton fighting it out over who lost Liverpool the league. Fitting for the 2nd best clubs in each I suppose.  :D
Its f**king hilarious  ;D

Its 20 years since Everton won at Anfield.

In that time they've beaten Liverpool three times in the league, once in the FA Cup.

No wins of any kind since 2010.

You have to allow the poor lad something! ;D

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 14, 2019, 08:34:24 PM »
I guess there’s not as much respect among players as we’re led to believe.

But then you also have to have the team dynamic and solidarity first and foremost.

At the very least, a bit silly of whatever City employee released it.

I doubt if many Liverpool players are too bothered. And who knows, maybe the Liverpool players gave it loads last year at the Etihad after knocking City out of the CL.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 13, 2019, 05:23:27 PM »
If someone had said at the start of the season that Liverpool would only lose one league game but not win the title.....you would have been checking their medication. I think they need a De Bruyne or Hazard style midfielder to overtake city. Same two battling it out next season....unless Spurs add to their squad. I hope Liverpool win the CL final to have something to show for a great season.....but Ihave a nagging feeling that Spurs will nick it.

Champions League final is a toss-up, but I don’t think too many Liverpool fans are downbeat at this point. Club will surely strengthen, and they are very well placed to compete at the top level in Europe and England for the next few seasons.

So go ahead and gloat gobshites. Most of us are feeling very positive about Liverpool, something that can’t be said for your own club. 8)

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 13, 2019, 01:31:54 PM »
Shocker! Rival fans cheering on another team thats stopping their own team from winning! 

Liverpools and Utd's fixation on each other is funny and depressing at the same time, some of the stuff on social media would actually make you laugh out loud but the sniping is ulgy.

The standard this year from the top two has been impressive, but some teams also getting their act together and the points total next year wont be as high.

Good luck in the final to both teams

Yes it’s sad and depressing. Even worse when it’s going on in this part of the world.

Totally agree.

Just as bad is being viewed as a bigot because you support your gaelic county team and don't support an English soccer team and say 'we'.

Some has been called a bigot for that??

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: May 12, 2019, 11:18:20 PM »
I would take the banter from most supporters, but Liverpool fail to realise continually is that they finished behind this outfit last year.

9 points ahead of them this season though.... ;)
16 points
19 points
26 points
31 points.

United have been crap since they last were champions in 2013.  Despite that they've won 2 more trophies while Liverpool won none.  ;D

You are boasting about Man u winning a 'B' European trophy - made up for teams who finish 5th and 6th in the League or 3rd in the Champions League group stage. The other Competition Liverpool started Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Matip, Moreno, Fabinho, Milner, Keita, Shaqiri, Mane, Sturridge in their one and only game in that competition this season. A 'C' domestic Trophy!

If you are boasting about those two trophies, your standards have dropped!

I don’t think many intelligent United fans are making that boast.
Just to state. It's 3 trophies since Fergie left. Not 2. Fa cup lge cup  europa lge.

Doesn’t really alter the point though.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: May 12, 2019, 10:43:11 PM »
I would take the banter from most supporters, but Liverpool fail to realise continually is that they finished behind this outfit last year.

9 points ahead of them this season though.... ;)
16 points
19 points
26 points
31 points.

United have been crap since they last were champions in 2013.  Despite that they've won 2 more trophies while Liverpool won none.  ;D

You are boasting about Man u winning a 'B' European trophy - made up for teams who finish 5th and 6th in the League or 3rd in the Champions League group stage. The other Competition Liverpool started Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Matip, Moreno, Fabinho, Milner, Keita, Shaqiri, Mane, Sturridge in their one and only game in that competition this season. A 'C' domestic Trophy!

If you are boasting about those two trophies, your standards have dropped!

I don’t think many intelligent United fans are making that boast.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 12, 2019, 10:41:46 PM »
Best premier league team would be Utd, just on titles that is

Most successful club. They had multiple “teams” that typically evolve and refresh over 3-4 years. This city team (2017-19) has bettered their league achievement s domestically by a distance two years in a row.

Be more specific in your post, the best team the premiership has seen (taking league titles as a measurement) is Utd

I think the point he was making was crystal clear.

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There was plenty of heated, irrational and emotional debate on this very board in the mid-00s over the trivial issue of Ireland’s Call at rugby matches.

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While Liverpool have beaten Spurs twice in the league this season, they haven't looked like they were far too strong for Spurs in either game.  The own-goal  at Anfield was the difference, and at Wembley, Spurs had a decent shout for a penalty when Son went down, at 2-1.  Of course, ifs and buts as far as the results go, but Spurs can certainly feel they're strong enough to win, or at least draw and see what happens in a penalty shoot out.

Liverpool were three or four goals better than Spurs at Wembley. Completely one-sided game. The late, late goal and missed penalty doesn’t change that. Can’t remember, but Spurs might have had a couple missing. Anfield game, Spurs were superb second half and could have won it.

50/50 game in the final.


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The buzz phrase seems to be “how unionists can be accommodated in a United ireland”. What does that even mean?

Everyone will equally have access to education, healthcare, benefits, roads, etc. Everyday life will roll on. School, work, pub, walk the dog, watch telly etc. They’ll do the same daily things as everyone else.

The only thing that is different about unionists from nationalists is their culture. They’ll still fly their union flag and swear allegiance to Lizzie, Willy or baby Archie or whoever. They’ll still want to march and light bonfires. They already play the “our culture is being eroded” card in the north under the uk. They haven’t walked the Garvaghy Road in 20 years. Will part of this “accommodating unionists in a UI” thing mean they’ll get to march down it again?

I seriously doubt it.

However, I would assume that we from the Gaelic background would have to accept a watering down of the symbols of the Republic in a united Ireland. I would think the tricolour and Amhran na bhFiann would go, as would titles like The Dail and Taoiseach and so on.

Do unionists celebrate Paddy's Day? Would they insist on the 12th being made a holiday?

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What luck had Liverpool along the way to the 2005 final?

Ghost goal v Chelsea. What looked like a good goal from Del Piero ruled out for offside v Juve.

If football followed logic, Barca and Ajax would be playing on June 1st?
Which is why i said maybe another unexpected twist will happen.
What Ghost goal? The one that was over the line? The same one that the Ref later said he would have given Liverpool a penalty and sent off Cech if it wasn't awarded.?
There was no luck involved getting to that final. Liverpool were in it and won it on merit.

One of the most famous ever ghost goals that another ref would have waved play on. Have you ignored the bit of luck v Juve in a tie that finished 2-1? nothing wrong with getting the rub of green along the way it's normally a key key ingredient for the majority of teams that wins cups competitions.
How do you know another ref would have waved play on?
The only ref that matters is the ref that was that night..and he said this.
Slovakian Michel, 40, speaks English - along with Russian, German and Polish - was in charge for the Champions League semi-final at Anfield three years ago when he judged that Luis Garcia's effort for Liverpool had crossed the line.

Mourinho dubbed it both the 'ghost goal' and 'goal from the moon' as Chelsea were beaten.

Michel, though, has since said: "If my assistant referee had not signalled a goal, I would have given a penalty and sent off goalkeeper Petr Cech."
No luck involved in that game.

Refs don't like saying they were wrong and will cover it up as best they can afterwards.  Anyway like you said Liverpool earned the win held a very good Chelsea team scoreless over both legs.

Are you suggesting the red card for Cech and a penalty would NOT have been given and warranted?

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Whoever scores the first goal, I definitely can't see the other team coming back.

Kinda happy that I will miss this as I will be on a plane. However 2 fantastic managers but the sad thing is instead of the winner been feted for winning the biggest prize in club football we can all see the loser being vilified for not having won a trophy with his current club.

Anyway Liverpool for me, the lesser of two evils but you can't beat tradition. Could be a classic, final score 4-2.

They will only be vilified by clueless idiots.

Klopp is doing extraordinary work, no matter how the final ends up.

Poch has been hamstrung by a lack of squad depth and loss of his star striker, yet still made it through to their first Champions League final, and first European final of any kind for 25 years.

I wonder who springs to mind....  :D

Wasn't really thinking about the likes of OTB. His troll offerings aren't worth consideration.

But there will be supposedly knowledgeable people, including in the media, who will fall back on "but he hasn't won anything" horseshit for whichever man loses.

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Whoever scores the first goal, I definitely can't see the other team coming back.

Kinda happy that I will miss this as I will be on a plane. However 2 fantastic managers but the sad thing is instead of the winner been feted for winning the biggest prize in club football we can all see the loser being vilified for not having won a trophy with his current club.

Anyway Liverpool for me, the lesser of two evils but you can't beat tradition. Could be a classic, final score 4-2.

They will only be vilified by clueless idiots.

Klopp is doing extraordinary work, no matter how the final ends up.

Poch has been hamstrung by a lack of squad depth and loss of his star striker, yet still made it through to their first Champions League final, and first European final of any kind for 25 years.

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