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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 16, 2018, 05:56:24 PM »
That’ll do...

 :D ;D ;D

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 16, 2018, 05:28:16 PM »
Whether it’s Milner or Salah or Robertson or Moreno or whoever, they never get it past the front post. It’s like it’s intentional. And it’s been that way for a few years.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 16, 2018, 01:56:46 PM »
Utd will get a hiding today i think. Im sure all the scouse dross who are more interested in this chat than their own will be on for weeks .

There is zero basis to predict a hiding for United.

Mourinho is more than comfortable parking his team on the edge of their own box and just sitting there closing space and heading away crosses. Even at Old Trafford last spring, United hardly gave Liverpool a sniff after the Bailly o.g., despite being completely pinned back for the last half hour. And there will be no issues of complacency on the part of the United players. Even if they think Mourinho is a complete cnut, they'll still be up for this one.

I just hope Lovren and whoever starts for Liverpool at right back are a bit better prepared for the Lukaku flick-on to the left channel which Rashford so brilliantly exploited that day at Old Trafford.

This will finish a draw or a one goal win for either win.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 16, 2018, 01:49:30 PM »
Wonder which oil or mining lobbyist they’re lining up to replace the corrupt, megalomaniacal, piece of shit Zinke?

Not exactly a glowing recommendation for the next stage in his career!

He personally, assuming his resignation is the end of any potential legal battles, will land on his feet just fine. I'm sure there are plenty of oil, mining and timber interests who are eager to tap the "knowledge" (it ain't science-based, that's for sure) and connections he will now have on how to exploit public lands and run slipshod over environmental and public health protections.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 15, 2018, 10:45:37 PM »
Wonder which oil or mining lobbyist they’re lining up to replace the corrupt, megalomaniacal, piece of shit Zinke?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 15, 2018, 03:53:28 PM »
Texas court declares Obamacare unconstitutional.

Healthcare and prisons cost 25% of GDP
That is 10% of GDP more than a civilised country
Rent seeking is therefore constitutional

It will end up back in the Supreme Court, where five sitting justices have already ruled in favour.

Its ironic though that only a week or two back Trump was crying (fraudulently) about the entire Ninth Circuit of Appeals and "Obama judges", but has nothing to say about the judge shopping that ends up with repeated conservative cases in front of this particular judge.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 15, 2018, 03:38:11 PM »
Funny how the commentators kept says City were only going on top temporarily. They are really desperate for Liverpool to win it..

Really?

Last week they were saying Liverpool were going top temporarily, pending City's still-to-be-played game.

Not sure how the mere statement or acknowledgement of facts implies bias.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 15, 2018, 03:01:54 PM »

https://goo.gl/images/Kq93ns

Klopp is following in Brendan Rodgers footsteps it seems.  When BR got his choppers whitened it turned out it was because he was shagging one of the sluts in LFC reception.  By the looks of Klopp he must be tag-teaming the whole office!  ;D ;D

Jeez lad football rivalry aside...this is just not funny. What was going on your head when you thought of this, never mind clicking the post button? Honest question, did you really think this is funny?
Even from a banter point of view Over the Bar is just weird.
Constantly going on about Liverpool the City and it's people about things not even connected to football like crime and unemployment.
You'll have eegits on now saying Liverpool fans are always on the Man U thread and we can give it but not take it, but none of us carrying on like that.
It's a strange strange obsession he has, I wonder was he dumped by a young one(or fella) from Liverpool or something. Or maybe he is actually just a weirdo who really takes all this seriously and actually hates the whole City of Liverpool simply because he picked Man United as a team to support when he was a kid.

No need to circle the wagons!  ;D Simply pointing out that a second LFC manager in succession has gone for the utterly ridiculous tan / teeth-whitening look which for a man in his 40's would suggest he's either gay or trying to impress the ladies.  If the latter then he may well be up to the same in-house antics as BR before him!   

Of course United hold a considerably higher moral artitude on such matters given Tommy Doc was sacked for cheating on his wife with someone connected to the club

Like the time they sacked Ryan Giggs for cheating on his wife with someone connected to his brother??

Very connected. In other words, his brother's wife.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 15, 2018, 02:59:57 PM »
US "border control agents" are sadists.

7-year-old migrant girl taken into Border Patrol custody dies of dehydration, exhaustion

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/7-year-old-migrant-girl-taken-into-border-patrol-custody-dies-of-dehydration-exhaustion/2018/12/13/8909e356-ff03-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f0e729a06f7

“Food and water are typically provided to migrants in Border Patrol custody, and it wasn’t immediately clear Thursday if the girl received provisions and a medical exam before the onset of seizures.”

Girl hadn’t eaten or drank water in days prior to apprehension.

To imply that she died due to neglect by Border Patrol Agents is highly irresponsible until the facts are known.

I agree with you.

Someone should tell DHS head Nielsen though.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2018, 03:56:06 PM »


There isn't much point in debating with the CNN brainwashed.

If you read back through this thread you'll find so much nonsense from democrat supporters who think the world is about to end because Hillary Clinton didn't win an election.

Donald Trump won. Grow up and move on. But you can't....

Hey Dolph- welcome to the board, there's a lot of reason not to debate things entirely your call.

Is your argument that Donald Trump was elected by the electoral college system- don't think anyone is disagreeing.

Is there more you'd like to add? or just going straight to the baseless slagging?

Hegan - Baseless slagging? you just proved my point. You bring up the electoral college angle because you can't let it go.  It comes across as very immature.

I see a lot of outrage from the democrat supporters regarding the wall. It might be more sobering to look at the US situation and apply it to Ireland. Would you then be as favourable? Just say that after Brexit the whole of the UK decided to move to Ireland.

Would you want Ireland to allow unlimited immigration?
Would you want the immigrants to be allowed in unvetted? (border security just let them through or catch and release)
Would you want to pay more tax to fund the above and their immediate/long term needs and all the facilities required.
Would you want to run the risk of losing your job or having to lower your wages to compete with this new labour force?
Would you want your communities to be safe?

Try answering that honestly. If you can say none of the above concern you I'd find it very strange.

How about setting up the questions honestly?

I don't know any Democratic politician, or indeed liberal-leaning person, who is in favour of just allowing people to flow into the country, unvetted or unlimited.

Yes, Individual 1 wants to grandstand about the "open borders" Democrats, but just because he continuously peddles lies and bullshit for political reasons doesn't mean that everyone else should engage in a straw man debate.

If you agree with Trump about effectively stopping unvetted and unlimited immigration then you need a wall along with an effective vetting rocedure. Obama, Clinton, Schumer and the rest all were in favour of a wall in years gone by but have switched their attitude for self-preservation. Tell me that isn't true.

1. What is an “effective vetting procedure” and how does it differ from what’s been in place?
2. Go ahead and post where the Dems (or indeed any Republican in a position of power) has called for a physical wall along all, or indeed, a substantial length, of the US southern border?

Hillary Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFi0QUboxs

Clinton, Schumer and Obama have in the past been against open border policy. Now they don't care.

Are you the resurrection of foxcommander?

Your straw man arguments are at about the same level.

Schumer at al have agreed to 1.5 billion for border funding. Clinton (going by the title of your video) agreed with a fence (not a huge concrete wall).

Yet you’re crying on the other hand about the non-existent open border policy of the Dems.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2018, 03:51:49 PM »
I don't need another "cudgel" to bash Trump. I absolutely do not need him to sink (as a stated matter of policy to present some kind of "deterrent") to the unprecedented and deliberately callous, dehumanizing cruelty of ripping wailing toddlers out of their screaming mothers' arms, to become separated from them for undetermined lengths of time, often thousands of miles away. Do you?

Enough with the sob stories. They knew they travelled with the intention of breaking the law to enter the US.
What's worse is the NGO's facilitating the transfer of these people who clearly knew what situation these families would find themselves in but used them as cannon fodder anyway. That's deliberately callous and cruel.

Clearly you either have no children or you don’t see these people as human beings if you are so cavalier about what was taking place. And it’s wasn’t just those illegally crossing either. If whatever NGO you are on about has fault in this, fine, but that does not in any shape or form justify what Trump and Sessions did in targeting mothers and children, which is backed up by the fact that the ultimately had to back down.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2018, 02:10:32 PM »
You’re wasting your breath

Democrats love what’s happening at the border because it gives them a cudgel to bash Trump

Obama tear gassed people at the border.....not a peep

Obama put kids in cages.....not a peep

Obama separates “families”......not a peep


See, illegals are counted in the census, and if you paid the numbers with illegals you get more seats in Congress and by default more Electoral College votes. (Not to mention Federal Funding)

Whitey once again posting bullshit that’s been repeatedly addressed, debated and refuted in this very thread.

Wasting breath indeed.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/12/several-administrations-used-tear-gas-at-the-border/


Believe whatever you want

I may have missed it, but who on this thread was losing the head over the recent tear gas incident at Tijuana?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:37:13 PM »
I would also ask, whitey, do YOU "love" what's been happening at the border?

You're a self-proclaimed "never- Trumper", continually, by your own words on this site, appalled at his personal conduct and rhetoric.

I don't need another "cudgel" to bash Trump. I absolutely do not need him to sink (as a stated matter of policy to present some kind of "deterrent") to the unprecedented and deliberately callous, dehumanizing cruelty of ripping wailing toddlers out of their screaming mothers' arms, to become separated from them for undetermined lengths of time, often thousands of miles away. Do you?

Trump, whether it is on the policy front or by his personal behaviour and conduct as a human being, departed the realm of normal, objectionable due to his policies, politician or president long ago. The baby separation was merely another illustration that the normal limits do not apply.

 

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:07:19 PM »
You’re wasting your breath

Democrats love what’s happening at the border because it gives them a cudgel to bash Trump

Obama tear gassed people at the border.....not a peep

Obama put kids in cages.....not a peep

Obama separates “families”......not a peep


See, illegals are counted in the census, and if you paid the numbers with illegals you get more seats in Congress and by default more Electoral College votes. (Not to mention Federal Funding)

Whitey once again posting bullshit that’s been repeatedly addressed, debated and refuted in this very thread.

Wasting breath indeed.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2018, 12:57:29 PM »


There isn't much point in debating with the CNN brainwashed.

If you read back through this thread you'll find so much nonsense from democrat supporters who think the world is about to end because Hillary Clinton didn't win an election.

Donald Trump won. Grow up and move on. But you can't....

Hey Dolph- welcome to the board, there's a lot of reason not to debate things entirely your call.

Is your argument that Donald Trump was elected by the electoral college system- don't think anyone is disagreeing.

Is there more you'd like to add? or just going straight to the baseless slagging?

Hegan - Baseless slagging? you just proved my point. You bring up the electoral college angle because you can't let it go.  It comes across as very immature.

I see a lot of outrage from the democrat supporters regarding the wall. It might be more sobering to look at the US situation and apply it to Ireland. Would you then be as favourable? Just say that after Brexit the whole of the UK decided to move to Ireland.

Would you want Ireland to allow unlimited immigration?
Would you want the immigrants to be allowed in unvetted? (border security just let them through or catch and release)
Would you want to pay more tax to fund the above and their immediate/long term needs and all the facilities required.
Would you want to run the risk of losing your job or having to lower your wages to compete with this new labour force?
Would you want your communities to be safe?

Try answering that honestly. If you can say none of the above concern you I'd find it very strange.

How about setting up the questions honestly?

I don't know any Democratic politician, or indeed liberal-leaning person, who is in favour of just allowing people to flow into the country, unvetted or unlimited.

Yes, Individual 1 wants to grandstand about the "open borders" Democrats, but just because he continuously peddles lies and bullshit for political reasons doesn't mean that everyone else should engage in a straw man debate.

If you agree with Trump about effectively stopping unvetted and unlimited immigration then you need a wall along with an effective vetting rocedure. Obama, Clinton, Schumer and the rest all were in favour of a wall in years gone by but have switched their attitude for self-preservation. Tell me that isn't true.

1. What is an “effective vetting procedure” and how does it differ from what’s been in place?
2. Go ahead and post where the Dems (or indeed any Republican in a position of power) has called for a physical wall along all, or indeed, a substantial length, of the US southern border?

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