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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: Today at 03:31:57 PM »
I was down the local town yesterday evening, a fine day at 5pm. One of the biggest beaches in Ireland, I could see only 2 people on it from up on the promenade. Thats unheard off. I can only say in my neck of the woods this is now been taken very seriously by a very high % of people.

Moorway traffic today is 8-11% of that on a Sunday 3 weeks ago.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 28, 2020, 09:49:56 PM »
I see Americas are encouraged to wear face masks when out and about while this side of the world we are told the opposite.

Which is the correct advice, are we told that because healthcare workers would have a big shortage of masks?

I do a lot of business with the Chinese and Hong Kong, every one of them is telling me we are crazy here not wearing masks, they cannot believe it. They have two effects, one is minimising the chance of getting airborn infection if someone sneezes / coughs etc and the second is you are less likely to touch your mouth or nose when one is on. In addition you can buy self testing kits for only US11 each, I can access them but only problem is the minimum order is 10,000

On the street the mask is of marginal use, it is of more use in a train or the like. If you wanted a mask here could you get one, or many of course since you are not supposed to wear the same one multiple times.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 28, 2020, 06:02:36 PM »
Figures from earlier in the week looks like 985 Leinster; 290 Munster; Connacht 77; Cavan/Monaghan Donegal 22.

So 344 in total for Ulster.

There are far more in Ulster, but the Stormont wasters are not testing them.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 28, 2020, 02:00:10 PM »
There are some lessons to be learned from this crisis. Having a proper stock of PPE is one of them, any country should have enough for its hosptial staff, GPs, nursing homes, and even for volunteers in the civil defence, Order of Malta etc.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 28, 2020, 01:44:26 PM »
Uk Times today, Britain (unclear if it means Britain the Island or the UK in this instance tbh) on target for 5,700 deaths from Coronavirus. With the wall to wall doom mongering that all media are delivering that would surely appear very optimistic?

I recall an interview within the last two weeks - not sure if it was the Chief Medical Officer or not - who stated that the UK suffers 8,000 deaths a year through the flu and that anything less than 20,000 deaths would be a relatively good outcome for the country. 

I have remarked in recent days though cautious words of optimism about the overall trends in confirmed cases, with the hope that we are not following the 'Italian line'.

The model that predicted the 5700 suggested 5 times that for Italy and a shocking 8 or 9 times  that for Spain.
The numbers reflect the difference between keeping your health service more or less within what it can cope with and having to refuse ventilators to people.

I'm not sure if these models only account for the summer period or whether they account for a reboot in November.

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General discussion / Re: Bands you for forgot you liked
« on: March 28, 2020, 01:29:40 PM »
I will bow to no-one in my determination to proclaim 1978 as the greatest year in music history.

After all , who could ever forget this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWbMikrZ91U

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 28, 2020, 10:37:54 AM »
Gloves could be a reminder to not touch your face for the duration of the trip to the shop and of course you can wash gloves also.
But people find it hard to break the habits of a lifetime.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 28, 2020, 12:43:21 AM »
Any outings to shops we put our clothes  in washing machine as soon as we get in through the door!

This time of year I am wearing a coat and the virus only lasts on fabric for 4 hours, so I don't.

Wife is watching and listening to all the online experts and news

Although 4 hours has been advised and there are ranging times, there's no harm on washing clothes after but as with everything else... Wash your hands after

As I do, gloves on gloves binned ! And showered when I came in! Relentless but once itís a habit itís not an inconvenience

Did you drive? Did you sterlise the car before you drove it again?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:56:31 PM »
Any outings to shops we put our clothes  in washing machine as soon as we get in through the door!

This time of year I am wearing a coat and the virus only lasts on fabric for 4 hours, so I don't.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:47:27 PM »
USA hit the 100,000 mark with 14,500 new cases. Everything is bigger in the US, even pandemics.

Place definitely a lot quieter but giving people carte blanche to go the shops is an issue. I heard McAnerney's in Armagh was packed like Christmas today.

That is the fault of the shop who should be making them queue in the car park, 2m apart.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:58:28 PM »
180 deaths odd in UK. 919 in Italy.

UK deaths could be scary this next time week.

*not that 180 in a day isnít scary

And 769 in Spain, which would have been a record if the Italians had not broken their own record.
But even the Netherlands has had 112 deaths and it was hardly on the radar a couple of weeks ago (I was supposed to go there last week and had been reading about it).

However, it is also clear that some employers here have refused to get on board, Linden foods in Dungannon was mentioned. How hard is it to stagger breaks, ensure there are queues at start and end of work and provide some washing facilities?  After this all premises should have adequate washing facilities even if they remain partly unused.

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General discussion / Re: Dirua
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:41:29 PM »
Big change in a week!

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 03:15:17 PM »
London could well be heading that way too :(

and also New York.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 03:09:35 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/27/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-bergamo.html

If 50% of the U.K. has been infected since January, why are there no clusters like this in the U.K.? Horrifying scenes.

Sadly, in recent days it has been just as bad  in Madrid.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 11:39:13 AM »
I would say touching post, door handles of public places, bin handles, petrol pumps, money handling etc are the main sources of contamination, rather than airborne issues as all these things are touched by multiple thousands of people.

Something as simple as going shopping for the groceries gives so many opportunities to pick up the virus it is unbelievable, you need to have a very regimented routine of wiping your hands every single time you touch an item in the shop before you have the chance to touch your face and sanitising each item when you get it home before you put it away or use it.

Not to lead people into a false sense of security but I have found going into supermarkets lately that people just aren't coughing much. Maybe it's because of the stigma that is now attached to it but I for one like it - an open coughi s one of those noises that irritates me because you know somewhere a person has made no attempt to cough into their arm/sleeve even their hands.

We are coming out of the cold and flu season anyway and of course the social distancing reduces the transmission of these also.

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