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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 16, 2020, 10:32:10 PM »
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/15/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing/
Interesting alternative view

That guys a fuckin' idiot. Ignore it.

All his bullshit and blathering stops when you look at a case mortality rate of >10% in Lombardy.

His shares are probably nosediving.
Chuckling his shares might be nose diving
My business is at car crash level with 56 employees
Ohh and I have a personal guarantee that might just wipe my house out too
We really fked up the economy
The gmfall out night actually be worse

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 16, 2020, 01:52:05 PM »
Lock down is starting to become stressful I would say for all concerned as we have no end in sight as such.
I would love to know the r rate if we exclude care homes because I think at this stage in NI at least it would be quite low.
As I have said before the  uk and Irish reactions to this flu will cause economic chaos to young people because come  the autumn redundancies will start kicking in.
Furlough  monies is like a Large bill being paid every month at the moment.
We should look back on this thread in 5 years time to ascertain if the cure was harsher than the illness .
No one can guess when we get out to the other side but truthfully we need some dates in NI to focus on.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 13, 2020, 02:52:58 PM »
For me personally, I am happy to go back to work because as the days go on I am starting to fear more for our economic future than the health risks we face currently. Boris can't continue to pay my mortgage indefinitley. Just my fatalistic opinion, but each to their own.
I would go back in a heart beat  and I sm in my 50s because the longer it goes on the reality is that there mightnít be anything to go back to, one of my competitors has already notified all staff under 1 year that they are being laid off as soon as August and the contribution from employers comes into effect.
If we are all sensible and business is sensible then it is doable.
People mightnít appreciate it but furlough at 80% is somewhat counter productive given the extended period of good weather ,  as I have 3/4 mates happy to sit it out .
post furlough everyone will be paying for this ( vat increase , income tax, pensions, and cuts across the board)
Interesting figures today
Out of all deaths in North being 449
 only 21 were under 60 which is 4.6%
132 60-79
296 over 80.




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GAA Discussion / Re: Great GAA Comebacks
« on: May 06, 2020, 08:59:57 PM »
An almost great comeback, Armagh v Galway 2001

Galway led 0-12 to 0-5, Armagh scored 7 points in a row, but then a Michael Donnellan interception set up a Galway win.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-point-that-left-armaghs-year-marooned-26066107.html
Always have a smile at that game,
Was just married.
My father in law  A big down man had just lost his leg  From diabetes and I was driving him to Westport for the family holiday. Game was live on rye and he deliberately wouldnít stop as he wanted to get to Westport.
We arrived just as Armagh were coming back and he couldnít remember the house number
As soon as Galway went ahead he remembered it.
Poor man died shortly after it but he enjoyed seeing me get thicker And thicker as I couldnít get watching the game.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: April 21, 2020, 11:04:08 AM »
Lads dare I say it but it has not been anywhere near as bad as first predicted
Now I say that with my upmost condolences with the familyís whose loved ones have passed away
Robbie Swann said this morning that his early predictions of close to 2000 deaths are massively off the mark
ICU beds are only 40% full
PPE seems well under control compared to the UK
Hospitals across the north are pretty much empty(a lot to do with no one going to A an E)
Now I know a lot of this has got to do with lockdown happening but has this been somewhat of an over reaction? How many of the 200 had underlying problems?
Now our biggest problem now is our care homes and not the general public
We have paralysed the economy which will result in deaths and bankruptcy for years
Just my thoughts donít eat the head of me
Interesting synopsis, wouldnít find a lot of favour here .
I do believe that because the north is somewhat rural it has helped and by and large most people are compliant.
Not sure what is happening in the south .
My own views are that the trashing of the economy will result like  you said and like it did in 2009-2011 in a fair number of deaths/ breakdowns etc  which destroyed many families .
Itís a tricky situation for the governments because they need to show a way out of this and Tbf I donít think they know a way out .
Like during  the troubles the brits need to figure out what is the acc so level of deaths .

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 30, 2020, 09:47:14 AM »
So Boris is spending approximately £6M sending out letters to every house in the UK whilst staff on the frontline donít have appropriate PPE. A completely incompetent fool.
The letter will be read by the people who are the most at risk ( the over 70s).
No everyone uses the internet.
Sometimes the guy makes the odd correct decision

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General discussion / Re: Bands you for forgot you liked
« on: March 27, 2020, 07:16:19 PM »
Hothouse flowers
Had them on earlier, jeez it took me back to
Self aid, rds, etc.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:58:15 AM »
just listening to Michelle O Neill on Radoi Ulster saying if you are not an essential servive you should be shut down. FFS how weak is that!!! Do it then and help us workers who are being asked by employers to come in to work.
Genuinely I think there will be a full lock down by Friday
Most employers like myself are awaiting the breakdown of what ď furloughed workersĒ entails.
For myself I am going into work as need to ensure salaries paid this month.
Chatting to a bar owner  yesterday  on phone as he needed advice who had laid 10 off
He simply said he isnít re-opening after this so whilst a lot of employees rightly lambast employers, everyone is stressed to the hilt on this.
Itís a shit show and genuinely itís getting worse

Yes I fully understand that. But I prefer to be poor than be dead
Then donít go in
Genuinely not being cheeky but simply self isolate.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:29:59 AM »
just listening to Michelle O Neill on Radoi Ulster saying if you are not an essential servive you should be shut down. FFS how weak is that!!! Do it then and help us workers who are being asked by employers to come in to work.
Genuinely I think there will be a full lock down by Friday
Most employers like myself are awaiting the breakdown of what ď furloughed workersĒ entails.
For myself I am going into work as need to ensure salaries paid this month.
Chatting to a bar owner  yesterday  on phone as he needed advice who had laid 10 off
He simply said he isnít re-opening after this so whilst a lot of employees rightly lambast employers, everyone is stressed to the hilt on this.
Itís a shit show and genuinely itís getting worse

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 20, 2020, 08:07:37 PM »
Smokin joe
When I get the answers which I will I will post same.
Strange times

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 20, 2020, 07:43:52 PM »
I mean do you have to show:
1 they were going to be laid off
2 how do we police that they are doing no work.
Thatís the devil in the detail.
The one advantage is that guys who played by the rules and paid full taxes on employees ( no under the table cash) should be fine .

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 20, 2020, 07:22:19 PM »
Fair play to the Brits for doing this.  Did they clarify how long the 80% scheme would last for and the qualifying criteria ?

Is it for the next 12 wks or as long as the virus is around ?

Is it only for shops, restuarants and pubs that are forced to close or will it include contractors that have no work coming up over this or the likes of O'Neills who have no jerseys to make ?
All business no matter what
Effective from 1 March
Devil in the detail
What if you were trying to keep staff on
Is it better to temporarily let them go?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 20, 2020, 11:39:47 AM »
Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.
milltown
tbf i normally take 70 minutes to get to work in the city
today it took me 44
m1 from sprucefield was 8 minutes to grosvenor so the place is quiet
in my own offices we have 15 in
reality we need cash collection to pay the wages next week.
tonights statement by the chancellor will explain if the collective is ever going to happen

Iím in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, Iím in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I havenít asked anyone to be  shot, yet

Naka,
   As a business owner what's the feeling in relation to the loans on offer from the UK Government?

I thought it was a bit of a cop out TBH as it's not their money and will need paid back with interest no matter how low that is.
johnny
reality is a loan is no good
as it has an interest rate and all i would be doing is kicking the can down the road so effectively working to pay bills for the next couple of years
our work has dropped off a cliff
i like the idea of say 50% contribution through paye which will actually help the guys who do things right and pay their taxes properly .
it costs £250k a month to run my business with wages at circa 160k inclusive of paye/nic
so in lockdown there is no money to pay.
i can cover april but after that  well  its lay offs etc

teh small business relief only covers small firms. most sme don`t qualify

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 20, 2020, 10:44:59 AM »
Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.
milltown
tbf i normally take 70 minutes to get to work in the city
today it took me 44
m1 from sprucefield was 8 minutes to grosvenor so the place is quiet
in my own offices we have 15 in
reality we need cash collection to pay the wages next week.
tonights statement by the chancellor will explain if the collective is ever going to happen

Iím in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, Iím in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I havenít asked anyone to be  shot, yet

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