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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: March 19, 2020, 01:58:08 PM »
I can see most championships revert to straight knock-out when we do resume playing games ahead in order to clear the back log of games. It would be a real pity if this Laois team is deprived an opportunity to have a proper crack at beating one of the counties higher up the food-chain in Leinster. 

Laois / Re: NFL Div 2 2020
« on: March 04, 2020, 02:02:40 PM »
Good post County Man.

The third game three weeks on the trot I think had a bearing on the Kildare performance. They were much faster out of the blocks than we were and dominated the middle third for large parts of the game. Five points at this stage is very satisfactory return. However, we will need to pick up a win in our final two games to guarantee safety and both are away. It would be very disappointing if we did end up being relegated from division two. A lot of young players have come in over the last 12/24 months and are beginning to step up this year. In twelve months time I would be very optimistic that this team will be able to kick on even further. Having games against division two opposition again next year will be crucial to that development. The more games young players can get playing at the higher level can only be good for their development. Stepping back down to tussles with Offaly, Leitrim, Antrim and Limerick next year won't provide that.   

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 - 2020
« on: March 04, 2020, 01:00:31 PM »
There are so many twists and turns left in this division. Cavan looked a beaten docket after week one, by week four were topping the table and expected to beat Clare and push themselves firmly into the promotion places. Now with the loss to Clare they are now looking over their shoulders again with games against Kildare away and Roscommon at home on the final day they could easily find themselves not gaining another point before end of the league. With the remaining match-ups in the division it wouldn't surprise me to see a team relegated on 6 points. 

This division shows why an All-Ireland championship equivalent to a senior, intermediate and junior club championship could work. There is little between the counties ranked 8th (Meath) to the top 4/5 teams in division 3. Games between these teams in the height of summer would be hugely competitive and enjoyable.     

Laois / Re: Leinster U20 Football Championship 2020
« on: February 14, 2020, 03:41:31 PM »
The two lads should be allowed line out with the under 20s. It is a competition Loais can expect to do reasonable well in with a little bit of luck (and playing our strongest team). They will be long enough playing senior. As an underage player you want to play in these games and set out to win something. It would mean everything to these players and to the county if Laois were to win an underage title again. We have been starved of any sort of success for well over a decade now. Not entering our strongest teams is not going to change that statistic anytime soon.

As others have posted here- Laois have a panel of 30 players with a number yet to get meaningful game time. We could easily give the two lads a pass for Sunday and give likes of Walsh, Whelan, Healy etc. an opportunity of more game time. They are surely chomping at the bit to get out on the field and show what they can offer. I don't see our senior team being dramatically weakened by the two lads being released back to the U20s. 

Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 03, 2020, 04:31:28 PM »
I agree on the free taking concerns. If Laois are to pull off a big scalp/be competitive in the Leinster championship we will need to take absolutely every chance presented.

Laois / Re: NFL Div 2 2020
« on: January 16, 2020, 05:36:57 PM »
Have you heard something to the contrary Chrimtain. The new mark rule for championship this year is made for a player like Kingston. 

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: December 16, 2019, 11:34:22 AM »
I think Merman makes a very good point. A talented underage team by Laois standards who do everything right could still easily fall short to a Kilkenny, Dublin or Wexford side in the Leinster championship. These counties are picking from a bigger pool of players and are always well coached at this level. If Laois are properly competitive in their games against these teams then the year will be a success.

It is very positive to hear that McGrath is taking the sessions and the players will benefit immensely for that. There is big turnouts at training and players are showing the requisite commitment. What more can you ask of lads in December.


Laois / Re: NFL Div 2 2020
« on: December 04, 2019, 01:08:43 PM »
Extremely unfair comment to make regarding Donie Kingston. If Kingston wants to take a break from intercounty football then he deserves to do so without comments such as Batman's being thrown at him. He has played almost every year for the county since 2008. That's 11 out of 12 years of service to Laois football.

I think this article sums up why footballer with the talent of Donie Kingston might feel some disillusionment plodding along year after year with little or no chance of success. Hard to continually motivate yourself and give the time and dedication required to play at intercounty level with no meaningful end rewards.

Laois / Re: Laois Intermediate Football Championship 2019
« on: November 25, 2019, 02:26:37 PM »
County and club football are two separate entities. Clubs such as Muckalee, The Railway and Mullinavat would be very competitive if they were playing their football in Laois with all three clubs a match for any intermediate side in Laois. Mullinavat have made huge progress over the last couple of years winning the last three Kilkenny championships in very impressive fashion and I reckon would be ahead of four or five senior sides in Laois if were competing in our senior championship.

I feel recognition of their success should be acknowledged and congratulated. To say that it was a disgrace on the part of Rosenallis to lose to a Kilkenny club side is to be ignorant of the work that Mullinavat have put into developing a fine football team.  Rosenallis had a great run in 2019 and should be happy with the success they had. No shame in falling at the hurdle that they did. It was always going to be a 50/50 game.

Laois / Re: Award winners
« on: November 20, 2019, 01:45:54 PM »
Of course it should be based on performances across the whole championship but that isn't realistic to do. No one is going to be too put out who gets the award especially at underage level as it normally comes from the championship winning team and one of their stronger players/captain.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2019
« on: November 18, 2019, 01:50:06 PM »
A more realistic target would be a midlands league involving the top clubs in Laois, Offaly and Westmeath. If Naas of Kildare wanted to come in on board I would open invite to them as well. It would add interest to the club scene. I honestly cannot see Kilkenny or Tipperary opening their doors to adding Laois sides to their county leagues. There are too many sides in Laois as well to try fit into another counties model. 

It was interesting to note how the St. Mullin's players in on the county panel have improved significantly as players over the last 12 months. I would suggest that having serious summer championship games in Leinster against the likes of Dublin, Kilkenny and Galway has really stood to them this year as their confidence, touch and physicality seemed to have upped again since I saw them in Joe McDonagh last year. It's a pity that they won't get the opportunity to put that gained experience into use in the Leinster championship next year.

That is my fear for laois as well next year. Gain huge experience from being involved in four Leinster championship games but if they are relegated then an inevitable backward step has to be taken the following year and opportunity to progress and put any learning into place is sadly lost.


Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2019
« on: November 14, 2019, 12:14:25 PM »
There needs to be a hurling specific GDA employed within Portlaoise to work with the schools and club to reinvigorate hurling within the town. The club need a bottom up approach/strategy with meaningful long term goals-set clear/obtainable targets e.g have underage teams all playing at and competing for titles at A championship level by 2024. The demise of Portlaoise hurling is not a quick fix.

It is disappointing that a town of now well over 20,000 cannot supply one current inter-county hurler to starting county team or be at least competitive at senior level within Laois. Cahir is 34 next year and coming off serious injuries- he has been the last really noteworthy hurler that Portlaoise has produced.   

Laois / Re: 2019 Joe McDonagh Cup
« on: October 24, 2019, 02:47:27 PM »
They do. But that's not the point to my post. The GAA talk about the Joe McDonagh as a national competition and it should be treated as that- with individuals acknowledged for their outstanding performances in the competition.
19/20 times a Joe McDonagh winning side will not progress past game against third place side from Munster/Leinster and therefore no Joe McDonagh playing players will even come into the discussion for an All-Star. This year Laois broke the mold but I wouldn't be optimistic of that being repeated too often (especially now that counties have been forewarned what might happen if they take eye off the ball).   

I also can't see the problem someone like Enda Rowlands deserving a Joe McDonagh All- Star and a Liam McCarthy nomination/All-Star in the one year. 

Laois / Re: 2019 Joe McDonagh Cup
« on: October 24, 2019, 02:32:52 PM »
It is a disgrace that the GAA have disbanded the Joe McDonagh All-Stars. Laois could easily have up to 9 players on an All-Star selection after their performances this year in the competition and now their efforts will go unrecognised. It's another example of the lip-service shown to actually developing and promoting hurling in the second and third tier. While Laois defeated Dublin this year, the reality is that in most cases the Joe McDonagh Cup winners will not progress past the preliminary quarter final game and as a consequence players from the Joe McDonagh winning sides will not reckon in the All-Star selections.

I feel it reflects poorly on the organisation that no recognition is given to the J McD hurlers to acknowledge their efforts and performances throughout the year. Due reward for being asked to play in a competition that removes them from their provincial championship.

I'm surprised more hasn't been made of this and counties objecting to this plan 

Laois / Re: Next Laois football manager
« on: October 14, 2019, 03:03:01 PM »
In fairness to Laois county board the cost of running teams has become astronomical. in 2018 over 3/4 million euro spent on our intercounty teams. With hurlers going further this year I imagine that figure could be higher again for 2019. While managers are right to look for best of resources, it is unrealistic for a smaller county like Laois to be able to compete with resources that a county like Dublin, Kerry or Mayo can pump into their teams. These counties can tap into wealthy business people both here and abroad who see potential returns (All-Ireland success) for their significant contributions. We do not have that luxury. It is next to impossible for smaller dual counties to adequately provide for both hurling and football teams. While our county board often comes in for a bashing here, they can only operate within the confines of a set budget.

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