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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: September 04, 2019, 10:36:16 AM »
RG wouldn't have been my choice but he's there now and to be honest I think he's a pretty good manager. As long as we don't play the absolute dirge he had Fermanagh playing at times we might do ok.

He should at least shore up the defence. I'd be happy enough to play a wee bit more defensively if it means that bang-average forwards no longer have a direct route to our goal whenever they feel like it.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: August 09, 2019, 08:50:05 AM »
Nice clip of the Glenullin v Newbridge game doing the rounds. Dirty low blow from behind a man. Real manly stuff. No doubt the fault will be with whoever took the footage for some people.
Punching a man in the back of the head is a dirty action, but it's the way he was primed and ready to run away as soon as he connected that really got me.

Cowardice.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: July 17, 2019, 12:45:25 PM »
Surprised, to be honest

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 29, 2019, 01:44:44 AM »
That's as good a game as you could ever hope to see, at any level.

Paul Cassidy is next level. Didn't quite see it before... He's absolutely dynamite.

Padraig McGrogan is a beast. Conor McCloskey showed to be infinitely better than how I rated him.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 25, 2019, 02:12:22 PM »
You're not wrong in your last few lines there. We do lack a big man or two. I don't know if it's just bad luck, but for all of the talent coming through, most of them are not big men.

Of course, it doesn't help that Conor Glass, Calum Brown and Anton Tohill are on the other side of the world.  Looking forward to reading Glass' interview in the Gaelic Life this week, fingers crossed he hasn't ruled out coming home...

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 24, 2019, 03:03:54 PM »
At the risk of getting a good bollocking I think Brendan Rodgers is a very overrated defender. A fine athlete, but for me he's not a great marker
I disagree, although I'd love to see him play at half back if we had another specialist full back (we don't)

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 23, 2019, 06:20:53 PM »
Listened to the game on the radio. Couple of things stood out at the start of the second half. One was the three handy frees given away which handed Laois the initiative, second was the fact that on at least three/four occasions on the Derry kickout the commentary mentioned the fact that there was 2 balls on the pitch, which slowed things down. Was this a deliberate act? Just like the member of the Kildare management last year standing on the pitch for Derry's kickouts.
No, the ball just rolled onto the field after it hit the ball catch. It was absolutely ridiculous that we didn't have a ball boy or something. Slowed us down every time.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 23, 2019, 01:21:11 AM »
Will it f**k. Derry havent the money to get a county level manager. Club teams like Swatragh can bring in Enda McGinley who be more cut out at this.Whole game played at pedesterian pace. Some men literally not fit at this level. Numerous players not playing in their correct position. 6 or 7 players not near the standard.Liam McGoldrick goes off injured and we give up multi goal chances b4 they score.why do we need 15 men in our half of the field. No outlets up front when we win possession. Trampled all over the 2nd half.midfield over run by sheer size. Derry have 6 or 7 men we need on the panel not currently on. We too small also. Hardly a hard hit in the game.If only we 15 players showing a quarter of the bite padraig cassidy shows we go places.B Rodger played decent. Management clueless.
Interesting thoughts. I agree on some counts. We lack physicality and it shows. Padraig Tad covered every blade of grass, then covered them again. But most of the time he found intelligent space was pointless, because there is one man on that team (Ciaran McFaul) who can kick pass more than 20 yards. Tad gets into position, then needs to wait on 5 fist passes to get the ball across to him, by which time he's being marked.  Tad is a class act and we're wasting him.

Weird also that we play inside forwards who thrive on accurate ball, yet, again, have only McFaul capable of getting it in to them. Sukie and McGuigan are killers if they get the passes but they're relatively static so why we didn't start Sammy I will never know.

Where I disagree, I thought Rogers was cleaned out in the second half. Genuinely don't think I've ever seen him so uncomfortable before. But he's still our best full back by a mile and it's a shame he had no help.  I think Concannon is a class act but he had a total mare.  Karl was our best defender today. Keenan good too.

I've been a backer of McErlain but I'll be honest, after seeing that today, if Malachy O'Rourke wants a new job with no sabbatical, we'd be brain dead not to do it.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 22, 2019, 08:35:11 PM »
That was so disappointing.

I don't like slating any player who gives 100% effort. But half of that side played like it was a challenge game.

Very passive. Another long summer.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: February 27, 2019, 02:56:31 PM »
One of the central hallmarks of any successful team is to have a forward line who will strike terror, in scoring terms,  into the opposing defence every  time they gain possession of the ball.It would appear that Emmett Bradley,Christopher Bradley,Enda Lynn,Shane McGuigan,Padraig Cassidy,Niall Toner,Benny Heron and Ryan Bell will be the main contenders for the six forward starting positions if Derry  were to have a full quota to select from this year.

True they are all very accurate score getters but unfortunately there does not seem to be any palpable fear amongst opponents whenever they get the ball or am I too harsh or have I omitted  a more potent scoring forward in the county?

You're forgetting Ciaran McFaul and we have some potential candidates coming through the underage ranks at the minute also. I know where you are coming from but look at the likes of Dean Rock, over the years he has developed into a lethal forward, when he was young being over shadowed by the likes of the Brogan's and Connolly, but now one of the first names on a Dublin team sheet.

In the Sigerson final the two best players were Kerry young star Sean O'Se and our own Shane McGuigan. This is the level our boys are at. Plenty to build on and alot of potential.
I get what DerryOptimist is saying, to be honest. I agree with you that we have some really good forwards (said as much in my previous post) but we don't have an inside forward who will ruin a defender in the way that Paddy or Skinner would have. Enda Lynn is our closest probably but he's physically quite small and unfortunately approaching the end of his County career at 31 or 32 or whatever he is.

McFaul is a class act but he's playing midfield. Emmett Bradley also a class act but will also be midfield or half forward. Neither are inside forwards. Padraig Cassidy is something similar, even less of a "true forward", even. Sammy is certainly a forward and can play in the corner but he's quite small without being lightning quick, he prefers the simple ball to his chest rather than winning difficult ball off his direct opponent. Shane McGuigan is a classy, classy player but it's interesting that St Mary's play him at 11, and we played him there on the weekend past too. He similarly lacks either that extra yard of sheer pace or that extra 3 inches in height to be a truly unplayable inside forward at County level just yet (still a cub and filling out rightly though...), but he of course has football hanging out of him and could play 11 as well as any other young playmaker out there at the minute.

Just wonder what we could have done with Callum Brown had he not left. A completely different different animal to the other boys. More raw than any of them, but he has athleticism that would be the envy of a Dub. Something different. Tohill maybe isn't as quick but would have been another handful.

Shane McGuigan is a brilliant footballer, I think over the next few years he is the likely candidate to be the man being Derry's chief scorer, out of all the men mentioned he is probably the only one that could be a real natural inside forward.

Tohill couldn't get a game for his club before he went to Oz.
Agree, he's a class act.  Aye I know Tohill didn't start much but he's still very young. Would have been a nice backup to have.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: February 27, 2019, 02:21:48 PM »
One of the central hallmarks of any successful team is to have a forward line who will strike terror, in scoring terms,  into the opposing defence every  time they gain possession of the ball.It would appear that Emmett Bradley,Christopher Bradley,Enda Lynn,Shane McGuigan,Padraig Cassidy,Niall Toner,Benny Heron and Ryan Bell will be the main contenders for the six forward starting positions if Derry  were to have a full quota to select from this year.

True they are all very accurate score getters but unfortunately there does not seem to be any palpable fear amongst opponents whenever they get the ball or am I too harsh or have I omitted  a more potent scoring forward in the county?

You're forgetting Ciaran McFaul and we have some potential candidates coming through the underage ranks at the minute also. I know where you are coming from but look at the likes of Dean Rock, over the years he has developed into a lethal forward, when he was young being over shadowed by the likes of the Brogan's and Connolly, but now one of the first names on a Dublin team sheet.

In the Sigerson final the two best players were Kerry young star Sean O'Se and our own Shane McGuigan. This is the level our boys are at. Plenty to build on and alot of potential.
I get what DerryOptimist is saying, to be honest. I agree with you that we have some really good forwards (said as much in my previous post) but we don't have an inside forward who will ruin a defender in the way that Paddy or Skinner would have. Enda Lynn is our closest probably but he's physically quite small and unfortunately approaching the end of his County career at 31 or 32 or whatever he is.

McFaul is a class act but he's playing midfield. Emmett Bradley also a class act but will also be midfield or half forward. Neither are inside forwards. Padraig Cassidy is something similar, even less of a "true forward", even. Sammy is certainly a forward and can play in the corner but he's quite small without being lightning quick, he prefers the simple ball to his chest rather than winning difficult ball off his direct opponent. Shane McGuigan is a classy, classy player but it's interesting that St Mary's play him at 11, and we played him there on the weekend past too. He similarly lacks either that extra yard of sheer pace or that extra 3 inches in height to be a truly unplayable inside forward at County level just yet (still a cub and filling out rightly though...), but he of course has football hanging out of him and could play 11 as well as any other young playmaker out there at the minute.

Just wonder what we could have done with Callum Brown had he not left. A completely different different animal to the other boys. More raw than any of them, but he has athleticism that would be the envy of a Dub. Something different. Tohill maybe isn't as quick but would have been another handful.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: February 27, 2019, 01:02:13 PM »
One of the central hallmarks of any successful team is to have a forward line who will strike terror, in scoring terms,  into the opposing defence every  time they gain possession of the ball.It would appear that Emmett Bradley,Christopher Bradley,Enda Lynn,Shane McGuigan,Padraig Cassidy,Niall Toner,Benny Heron and Ryan Bell will be the main contenders for the six forward starting positions if Derry  were to have a full quota to select from this year.

True they are all very accurate score getters but unfortunately there does not seem to be any palpable fear amongst opponents whenever they get the ball or am I too harsh or have I omitted  a more potent scoring forward in the county?
We've got a fine set of forwards. All good players and probably as good as a unit as we've had for a while. We just miss a Paddy Bradley/Skinner who will 9 times out of 10 obliterate their marker. Although as we know the game has changed (for the worse?...) these days and even those two boys would find space at a premium in many games.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: February 12, 2019, 11:50:50 AM »
Didn't hear about O'Brien leaving, just McKinless. Bit of a shame if he's gone too, handy player.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: February 11, 2019, 02:54:15 PM »
Is he Heron still part of the panel? I know he got married this weekend but I assumed he wasn't involved any more (just an assumption, no basis to it)

Wonder why we're getting yellow cards when the opposition aren't. I wouldn't look at that team and think it was a dirty side.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: February 11, 2019, 02:13:07 PM »

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