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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: November 19, 2019, 10:45:19 AM »
4–13 to 0-1 now.
Kilmaine are a decent enough side but surely the Sligo county  champions should be able to put in a better show than that.
Their champs won Connacht last year at this grade
Not that much better really, the club scene here is quite poor as you can tell from the senior results, and with only 23 clubs in all the junior grade has very few clubs involved, only three could have gone forward from it. Michael's aren't much of a team at all and in fact all they had to do to reach Saturday's final was to beat our club in the county semi final two months back, as the other finalists were a second team and Leitrim had no team to go forward. We would have been seen as clear favourites to win junior but Michael's got us on a day and a ground that was made for them rather than us, and there may have been a certain complacency involved too. Not that we'd have beaten Kilmaine anyway but we may have fared a bit better.

Citing Easkey winning last year isn't really relevant, as Easkey really should never have been in junior to begin with, they suffered two straight relegations, and weren't far off going back up to senior this year. Our reps record in junior is pretty dire aside (and our own crew are 0/3 in that regard) and it's not much better in intermediate either.

Incidentally I see it was yet another case of a Mayo team going all Flat Track Bully on Sligo opposition, 1-13 to 0-1 up and game well over as a contest, in so far as it ever was, and then they go running in four goals after that. Just like AOS, they might find out that it's not so easy getting goals when you might actually need one or two when it matters.

Its a Mayo thing to really beat the shite out of ya, when your down. When the heat comes on them, they shit the nest, then we can have a good laugh.

WTF - giving out about a team not taking it easy on ye? FFS lads, take up a different pass-time.
Really? Into the second half, 15 points up against 14 men, who've only managed a single point, and who would probably be quite relieved if the ref was to blow it up and end their ordeal early, and they go out of their way to score a couple more goals to really ensure the victory? FFS indeed.

If it was an underage game, then you would have a point.
However this is an adult game and as such the opposition is perfectly entitled to play to the whistle.
I'd be more insulted if I was playing in a game where my team was getting hammered and the other team took their foot off the pedal and stopped going for scores.

The most bizarre complaint I have ever seen on this board.
Imagine a team in a final playing to the final whistle!
Add the snide AOS blindside thrown in for good measure.

I've been on the wrong end of a fair few hammerings down the years but I've never heard anyone complaining about the other team continuing to score!
It's not continuing to score itself, it's going for goals when you're already 15-20 points up I'm taking issue with. Not like it was a league game where score difference might perhaps come into the picture in the final standings, the game was long over and the cup was only waiting to be handed over, why go out of their way to pile on the humiliation on them?

What would Owenmore Gaels have done?
We wouldn't have won anyway, if that's what you mean. Might have done a bit better but then maybe not, we'd be different to Michael's in being a slightly better footballing side in general, and having more pace in the team, but then we'd be a lot lighter and less physical, which has cost us more than once in recent years, including that damp evening in Coola a while back.

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General discussion / Re: Westminster Election 12th December 2019
« on: November 18, 2019, 01:05:00 PM »
Corbyn wants to give everyone free broadband and pay them the same money for working less hours...

What a horrible b**tard I vote Boris!!

It’s some money tree he has found

Doesn't matter.  Brexit has shown that you can throw out as many lies as you want and then deal with them once you have achieved the desired result.
The election is Brexit vs Remain

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1195613856594366464

In a NI context I can't for the life of me understand why anyone who supports a 2nd referendum would vote SF?

I can’t recall SF looking a referendum on Abortion in the North. They were happy for the government of the UK to push that through. That same government they don’t participate in or want any part of.
Westminster rule suited them then alright. Hypocrites. And the SNP cheerleading for it too.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: November 18, 2019, 11:57:19 AM »
4–13 to 0-1 now.
Kilmaine are a decent enough side but surely the Sligo county  champions should be able to put in a better show than that.
Their champs won Connacht last year at this grade
Not that much better really, the club scene here is quite poor as you can tell from the senior results, and with only 23 clubs in all the junior grade has very few clubs involved, only three could have gone forward from it. Michael's aren't much of a team at all and in fact all they had to do to reach Saturday's final was to beat our club in the county semi final two months back, as the other finalists were a second team and Leitrim had no team to go forward. We would have been seen as clear favourites to win junior but Michael's got us on a day and a ground that was made for them rather than us, and there may have been a certain complacency involved too. Not that we'd have beaten Kilmaine anyway but we may have fared a bit better.

Citing Easkey winning last year isn't really relevant, as Easkey really should never have been in junior to begin with, they suffered two straight relegations, and weren't far off going back up to senior this year. Our reps record in junior is pretty dire aside (and our own crew are 0/3 in that regard) and it's not much better in intermediate either.

Incidentally I see it was yet another case of a Mayo team going all Flat Track Bully on Sligo opposition, 1-13 to 0-1 up and game well over as a contest, in so far as it ever was, and then they go running in four goals after that. Just like AOS, they might find out that it's not so easy getting goals when you might actually need one or two when it matters.

Its a Mayo thing to really beat the shite out of ya, when your down. When the heat comes on them, they shit the nest, then we can have a good laugh.

WTF - giving out about a team not taking it easy on ye? FFS lads, take up a different pass-time.
Really? Into the second half, 15 points up against 14 men, who've only managed a single point, and who would probably be quite relieved if the ref was to blow it up and end their ordeal early, and they go out of their way to score a couple more goals to really ensure the victory? FFS indeed.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: November 18, 2019, 09:59:21 AM »
4–13 to 0-1 now.
Kilmaine are a decent enough side but surely the Sligo county  champions should be able to put in a better show than that.
Their champs won Connacht last year at this grade
Not that much better really, the club scene here is quite poor as you can tell from the senior results, and with only 23 clubs in all the junior grade has very few clubs involved, only three could have gone forward from it. Michael's aren't much of a team at all and in fact all they had to do to reach Saturday's final was to beat our club in the county semi final two months back, as the other finalists were a second team and Leitrim had no team to go forward. We would have been seen as clear favourites to win junior but Michael's got us on a day and a ground that was made for them rather than us, and there may have been a certain complacency involved too. Not that we'd have beaten Kilmaine anyway but we may have fared a bit better.

Citing Easkey winning last year isn't really relevant, as Easkey really should never have been in junior to begin with, they suffered two straight relegations, and weren't far off going back up to senior this year. Our reps record in junior is pretty dire aside (and our own crew are 0/3 in that regard) and it's not much better in intermediate either.

Incidentally I see it was yet another case of a Mayo team going all Flat Track Bully on Sligo opposition, 1-13 to 0-1 up and game well over as a contest, in so far as it ever was, and then they go running in four goals after that. Just like AOS, they might find out that it's not so easy getting goals when you might actually need one or two when it matters.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Player Opt outs for 2020 season
« on: November 18, 2019, 09:24:49 AM »
It was said the Semi finals and Final would be on TV,tbc Its an incentive for Counties to reach a Semi Final. Wicklow and Leitrim proposed the idea of second tier, so it was probaly that Counties would get some TV coverage too.

Because they weren't aiming for much  coverage in the Qualifiers.
No Horan said that hopefully they would be on, and sure there was the "text" from McBennett that the Congress delegates were told about in case too many were unwilling to believe the Croke Park propaganda.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Kerry Championship
« on: November 12, 2019, 09:37:16 AM »
Nothing to stop any county limiting the clubs to 8 in their championship, although creating divisional sides cannot be easy when starting it off.

Kerry have had divisional sides forever almost...the underlying premise being that a good player, no matter how poor his club team. will have the opportunity to shine on a bigger stage.   Like the soccer players, it was his only chance to "be seen" by county selectors.

If a divisional side made it to the semi-finals of the county championship, you'd always see one or two of previously unknown players getting a run in the league games before Christmas.  The fact that they'd be fitter due to being involved in the late stages of the county championship would only help themselves and the county in the league game as well.

Another unrelated theory was that a county minor should be making a good impression in the senior championship the same year.

But none do, to me it reeks of manipulation.

No county to my knowledge has a senior championship with less that 10 teams in it other than Kerry and Kerry is a county with a huge football tradition, a big population and a huge number of clubs. It's designed to manipulate their advantage at intermediate and junior level and in the AI series and I don't think they should be permitted to enter clubs in junior and intermediate AI level while they run their senior championship is such a closed shop manner.
Fermanagh, Offaly and Carlow.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: November 08, 2019, 10:58:53 AM »
Oxford University are banning clapping as it causes anxiety.

Can't access twitter but check out @Nigelrefowens
Not the first English university to do this I think, but you'd have to wonder where all this madness is going to end up.

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General discussion / Re: UK General Election December 2019
« on: November 06, 2019, 10:14:01 AM »
Is Aontú standing in this election or have they folded?

I doubt if both members of that party had the capacity to run an election campaign.
::)

They're running in Foyle and West Belfast fwiw.

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General discussion / Re: UK General Election December 2019
« on: November 01, 2019, 04:10:10 PM »

Sinn Fein need to get out of here and let Hanna have a run at it ... it's a done deal if they do sure McDonnell was useless and nearly ousted Pengelly last time!

Sinn Fein have no interest in the SDLP being successful. They would rather get to the situation where they are the only voice for nationalism in the north.
Ourselves alone indeed.

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General discussion / Re: UK General Election December 2019
« on: November 01, 2019, 01:48:15 PM »
Obvious thing to do in Sth and Nth Belfast is whichever Nationalist party got the highest vote to stand and the other step aside.
Of course historically SF, the Irish Government etc should have insisted on PR being used in ALL 6 Co Elections ach sin scéal eile...
They are used in elections in NI for Assembly and councils, but this is a UK wide election so you can hardly run it in the North on a completely different form to how it operates in Britain. They had the chance to remove FPTP in 2011 but it was rejected, so that's that.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 01, 2019, 10:58:23 AM »
I'd have expected better from her >:(

Doesn't surprise me - FG are wanna be Brits.
That smug p***k Richmond was wearing one on some BBCNI show the other night too.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: November 01, 2019, 10:52:43 AM »
75% of the Congress voted for the Tier 2 so someone must want it Wob.
A mixture of those who can confidently know they'll never have to worry about it, the few true believers that do and the rest happy to do what they're told by HQ in order to stay in favour for committee places and chairmanships etc.

Incidentally I see the IFA are having their presidential elections shortly, and each member has a vote in it. I can't wait to be able to vote on who will be Horan's successor  ::)

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: October 29, 2019, 04:02:10 PM »
Martin Kenny's car set on fire outside his house a few days after some of the neo Nazi filth declared him a  "traitor" who needs to be shot.
That because he didnt join the herd in opposing Refugees being located in Ballinamore.
He just stuck with the SF herd instead.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 29, 2019, 12:35:37 PM »
Call it the All Ireland Shield and move on.

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I’m coming around to the idea that there should be tiers. Except remove the “bottom 16” championship completely. If we have a strong league, then it becomes pointless. Like the LDV Vans cup or whatever it is called in England.

Instead, the top 16 teams each season - 4 Provincial champions (never runners-up), plus the 12 highest league finishers not including those 4 - enter a straight knockout AI competition.

This approach changes the emphasis for “weaker counties” away from teeing themselves up for annual slaughter in the championship, into scheduled targets and improvement over a couple of seasons, so that when they do make the last 16, they’re more suited to it. It’s a tad reminiscent of how the NFL playoffs work. You don’t enter them by default; you earn the right, and once you’re beaten, then you’re done.

Reduces county running costs by half, as most counties would be done by the end of May.

Reduces the strain on club v county in the majority of counties each year.

Gives an increasingly meaningful national league programme an elevated respect almost right up there with the championship, and this would be reflected in attendances and coverage.

Maintains provincial championships and structures.
I like this idea in general, with maybe some tweaks. Could live with it a bit more than being just cast off into a glorified B championship. In terms of the top 12 league teams I'd exclude teams relegated from D1 from inclusion in this category, but if they won their province (as Ros did in 2019) then they're back in contention. You could go something like:
Top 6 D1
Top 4 D2
D3 and D4 winners

And if teams in that 12 won their provinces then you would allocate the additional places to say, 5th in D2, D3 runners up, any from 3rd D3/D4 runners up/6th D2 etc. But relegation shouldn't be rewarded, it'd make staying in D1 all the more important.

Going on 2019 you'd have had Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Dublin, Galway, Monaghan, Meath, Donegal, Fermanagh, Kildare, Laois and Derry qualifying through the league, Roscommon through the provinces, leaving three places, going to Armagh, Westmeath and one of Down or Leitrim or Clare.

You could even have a round robin for the 16 teams if it came to it, with the provincial champions seeded, and the top two in each group going to the QF's. Would make more sense then how the group stage is shoehorned in as it stands.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:38:06 PM »
Sligo voted for it didn't they?
2 ways out of " the wilderness" - get up to Div  2 or reach a Connacht Final.
Surely both should be Sligo's aim and capability??
Almost certainly, we would seem to be the equivalent of a loyal government backbencher for HQ.

I take it you didn't see Sligo playing this year. We're not winning the Tommy Murphy Redux/Paidí Ó Sé/John Horan's legacy Cup anytime soon. In any case we couldn't get to D2 for two years even if we somehow got on a winning run, and have to go to Salthill next May so that's not happening either.

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