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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: December 03, 2019, 03:56:01 PM »
Donaghmore about to pay the man who just missed out on Clonoe job serious money....
How much is serious money nowadays?

Going rate for a D1 manager payment can be anything from 12k to 25k. Depending on club and manager involved.
25k for one man? Seems like an awful amount of money. How much would the likes of McBride be getting in Errigal? And does it come with a championship clause?
Seems stupid errigal paying anyone at all to manage them considering there resources. For a club to pay someone whilst having probably the greatest player to ever play the game at there club seems silly.
Agree, however there is no point opening that can of worms. I have just learnt not to expect anything simple by Errigal. With men like Canavan, the Hartes, O'Roarke, and a rack of other men with valuable experience on the pitch and on the line, you'd think they can find someone within their own ranks that could step up?

Don't forget Enda McGinley. He took them to back to back minor championships in 17 and 18, surely the logical step would be for him to take the senior job and help bring these boys through. He managed Swatragh this year so time mustn't be an issue for him.
Time maybe isnt an issue, but doubt Errigal would be interested in giving him the figures he asked certain Armagh club for or got from Swatragh

Enda McGinley lost a lot of credibility when he wrote that utter bollox in the IN about how young lads shouldn’t be going anywhere over summer and instead should invest any spare time into their clubs. A man who immediately ran to other clubs to take their money for coaching when he’d finished playing. No chance of him coaching Errigal if they aren’t paying him.

Not alone does he coach them for a small fortune but word on the street is he also picks up their physio bill...........
Some pound notes there in total

The only people it seems now that arn't getting paid is the players.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures
« on: October 11, 2016, 02:26:48 PM »
Yous obv arent players if you wana scrap the holiday period!

I'm not.

However I know loads of players who don't take their hols in that period.

Whats your suggestion?

The Holiday period coincides with the construction holidays and i imagine this is probably the largest employment sector for players. Therefore if they dont take holidays in this period its difficult for them to get time off at other times of the year. 

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Fixtures
« on: October 11, 2016, 12:32:16 PM »
Personally I feel all Senior/ reserve games should be played on Friday/ Saturday Evenings obviously when day light allows this to do so. There is also no reason as to why clubs cant play a mid week fixture throughout the summer months, im sure players would rather have a game than training. I appreciate that the travel and time for teams may be an issue so it should between two local teams.

I also think that the reserve competition also needs a rejig and should take the form of a 'junior' competition where there are two divisions of teams in both the west/ east. Each team will nominate 12 players who fielded in the last senior fixture that are ineligible to play in this competition. These games should take place on evenings prior to senior fixtures or also throughout the week.   

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 28, 2016, 04:46:21 PM »
I know this has been mentioned before a while back but some questions need to be asked of the county board regarding reserve football. I just looked over the fixtures on 1 reserves havent played since the end of august and before that only had a handful of fixtures due to holidays etc and out of the last 20 games played 10 were conceded. No reserve championship played yet. There has to be some major changes made if they want the reserve leagues to survive. Im only talking about div1 here too, god knows what shape the intermediate and junior leagues are in.

I said it a few pages back, it is time to simply scrap reserve football in Tyrone and forget about it. Just play a senior league, D1, D2 and D3. Nobody cares about it at a board level, and players at nearly all clubs lose interest after a while.  A lot of clubs seem to struggle to field a reserve team with a lot of games forfeited as the season goes in all divisions even D1.  Reserve football is dead in Tyrone.  Time to bury it.

What happens to the clubs that have enough players to field every week?? do they just join Division 3 of the ACL?  Scrapping it would be harsh,they could try changing it slightly. They should play ALL reserve games during the week or on a friday for a start. Thats a total no brainer!
Its certainly worth a try.
One thing we  cant do is continue the way it is.

Reserve footballers have always been treated badly in Tyrone, as Kev said there's no money in it for the County Board. We have been fortunate this past few years in Clonoe to always have had large numbers and very good reserve teams. Our reserve success has been a catalyst for our senior success and the majority of our current senior team would have reserve championship medals. If something new isn't tried a lot of players will drop of after u21 (which is also a shambles). These guys deserve to be treated every bit as well as their senior counterparts, they do the same training and give up the same amount of their own time to their clubs.

The only way to save reserve football is to play it as stand alone leagues which has promotion and relegation.
So far there has been:
20 games conceded in Reserve Division 1
16 games conceded in Reserve Division 2
42 games conceded in Reserve Division 3
- Making each division more competitive by introducing promotion and relegation would go a long way to helping the reserve league. Teams will think twice about conceding reserve fixtures if there is a possibility of relegation.
- Player will have move pride in playing reserve football if it is made more competitive.

Other steps to help with the reserve football would be:
- Games to go ahead on weekends that have county games (there is no reason that reserve football could not be played on the Friday night when the county are playing on the Sunday)
- Reserve league football to go ahead during club championship weeks (it could easily be played as mid week fixtures during the summer)
- An early championship in reserve football. Currently the rule states that you cannot play reserve championship if you have played championship football for your clubs senior team in the same year. A slight tweak to the rule could fix this, you cannot play reserve championship football if you have played championship football for your current/previous clubs senior team in the year prior.

I fully agree that by introducing promotion and relegation it would go a long way to helping the reserve league. Fermanagh has a similar model in place where clubs senior and "junior" teams may be in two different divisions, playing different opposition on different days.

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