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Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: December 03, 2019, 02:41:33 PM »
First things first. He is from Rosenallis so he is only going back home. No question he will make a difference. However, his move is typical of the clan who move clubs when it suits them. He is not the first. When he started with  Rosenallis they had a poor team  and headed to Mountmellick  not long after they hammered Tinnahinch in an u12 game. He left Mountmellick the year after they barely survived relegation. No surprise  he is leaving St Brigids a few weeks after they flirted with relegation.

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 20, 2019, 10:43:15 PM »
I see that o Flynn came on in the divisional match and scored a goal. This after having a monster of a match earlier in u20 v port. I heard that three courtwood and an Emo chap went from the match in courtwood to the divisional match. For a lad not to tog for his club in championship isn’t good enough play and just be part of the panel there will be plenty of evenings when they won’t clash
The Clonaslee lads played in both as well.

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 20, 2019, 10:41:29 PM »
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
If this is true it is nothing short of a farce
True all right

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Laois / Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
« on: October 07, 2019, 11:55:08 PM »
The margin of victory was a little surprising, but the results as expected.
I didn't get to either but from what I have heard and read the two beaten semi finalists are simply very very limited.

A bit of doom and gloom about Colt and their future, but I think they have a brighter one than Ballyfin in the next few years.
Underage has been cruelly neglected in that parish for several years. Hop into bed with anyone, under any name and any jersey. It's hardly the way to build a club, an identity or produce a strong squad.
Colt, in fairness to them were involved in a steady long term arrangement and always pulled their weight in it. It's a bit more muddied now, but they are committed to it at least.

The Harps and Rosenallis are the top two, and it will be a good game. I'll reserve judgement for now!
Considering Ballyfin got to the senior football semi, it's a cheap shot having a go at them as a lot of their key players play both codes. They looked a tired team tonight.   

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Laois / Re: Laois Intermediate Football Championship 2019
« on: July 28, 2019, 12:43:09 PM »
After last night's senior game and the league final last week, I'd have to change my view that Portlaoise might win the IFC.
Micky Nolan is gone up as are Rogers, Mulligan, Paddy Downey, and the two young lads Maher and Ronan Mc. Along with that, t the likes of Adrian Kelly, Scott Lawless, Conor Dunphy and John Kavanagh weren't named on the panel last night so I doubt they'll play intermediate.
  Portlaoise  win with a bit to spare. Hard to make sense of league form.

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Laois / Re: Leinster U-20 Football Championship 2019
« on: July 20, 2019, 12:03:48 AM »
I was disappointed with the result as I thought we would put up a much better show. Still think there are a lot of players with potential who will learn from tonight and progress to senior. I thought one of our problems was that we didn't track back and a number of scores came from mistakes at critical times. Now I'm been a bit petty here but what the hell is it with promising Laois teams and haircuts? Tonight we had every player with more or less the same haircut. Might have been more in their line to concentrate on the football. We had the same nonsense back in the 90s with the successful minor teams who underachieved at senior level by any yardstick. One of my abiding memories was all their flashy hairstyles that were doing the rounds when there were going well at underage. All I'm saying I would prefer substance to style.   

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Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: February 17, 2019, 06:48:57 PM »
As I said above, Laois' infrastructure and its mechanics are a soap opera.

In these sort of arrangements, I have seen first hand the pressure that exists to get everyone on the field. People can no longer accept that their youngster, their player, does not deserve to start. So some bright spark said when we have enough of one age group, we'll register them as a single team. This is not the first time this has happened. I think this is what brought Ballylinan Genmore to its knees as well. It needs to be discussed at length and arrangements need to be set in stone. There is a feeling of Open Season about everything we do, and it's very divisive. Talk about area teams and players getting access to senior football can be shelved until this sort of nonsense is resolved
Have to agree 100% Ballylinan went on their own a few years back due to one team initially pushing for it. The Rock split with St Pauls over one team. St Josephs and Barrowhouse probably over one player but it was hard to blame Barrowhouse. The word is that Crettyard pulled the trigger on their split with Killeshin while Kilcavan went on their own once they were able to. This is only football and hurling is probably similar.  Have to admire Stradbally Parish Gaels for going the distance. There is no problem with any club going on their own if they have the numbers but they can't have it everyway. Killeshin were dead right to pull the whole thing if Crettyard initiated the latest split. Why deal with a club who will let you down when it suits them.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: February 09, 2019, 11:45:36 PM »
 I heard Pat Spillane this evening discussing the success of Kerry teams in the All Ireland Intermediate and Junior championships. Considering what happens in Laois with having 16 club senior teams, it is hard to get the head around Kerry only having 8 club teams.  They have 8 divisional teams to cater for the intermediate and junior players.  But it explains why Kerry have such a good record in the club competitions. Courtwood who actually performed well all things considered  won the competition for the 16/17th best team in Laois while Kilcummin in Kerry were the 8th/9th best team in Kerry. At a national level, our clubs haven't a chance of competing unless we reduce the number of teams at our highest grade.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 25, 2019, 06:47:22 PM »
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/25/croke-park-deem-all-proposed-gaels-teams-in-laois-for-2019-illegal/

Let's call a spade a spade: the reality is any team that was relying on a 'Gaels' amalgamation to prop them up at senior in the first place is pathetic. Either accept you're going to struggle or accept a championship reformat which regrades you at intermediate, holding onto the senior tag just for the sake of it is watering down the SFC standard to conserve your pride, and in turn keeping county priorities below your own. Killeen looking to get into bed with Barrowhouse, given their history of picking off some of their best players, is embarrassing. They're a perfect example of a dying club, no youth coming through, virtually the same players every year and in the meanwhile they're getting that bit older. Themselves and Kilcruise need to have a serious look at themselves, they are doing a serious disservice to their players and to themselves. Ending this Gaels nonsense is only half the battle: the next step needs to be cutting down championship numbers to at least 12 as was proposed several years back before divisional teams are even considered.


Nail on head.
Agree 100% 16 Senior club teams in Laois is way too many considering Kerry has something like 8.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: December 10, 2018, 12:07:16 AM »
Makes Ballinakill look a tad embarrassed I think. They voted very strongly (except for 15) in favour) and now Abbeyleix don't want them by an equally large majority with less than 20 in favour. The only thing I would hope for now is that there is no fallout in either club but I can't understand how a few good tally men and a few soundings could not have avoided the whole process.

You’d be surprised. A mood can shift on the night. A realisation that your club ceases to exist.
Has happened in OY before. Then again unfortunately these dreadful mergers have happened, too often for my liking, to the detriment of both the initial clubs. Lost identity, dilution of tradition.
The fact that more turned up at the Ballinakill meeting is interesting. Abbeyleix on paper is a much bigger club  but has a smaller hardcore which doesn't surprise me. My take on it is that Ballinakill know they have a problem in the long run and were prepared to do.something about it now. I imagine that Abbeyleix on the night took the view that they will survive one way or another. Funny enough, I think they are going to be wrong on that one as the shift in the parish will be to football.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: December 09, 2018, 11:53:22 AM »
Not a hope Rathdowney or Kilcotton would have titles on their own. I don't think this amalgamation will go through  as the vote  will require 3 logical/rational people out of 4 to vote for it  to counteract the high level of head bangers who probably do nothing from one end of year to next.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: December 02, 2018, 11:36:02 PM »
Killeen and Kilcruise looked very old last year, I fear they will both eventually wilt away if they dont sew up old wounds.

There is only one long term solution to football in that part of the world and in fairness, they've addressed the problem with Na Fianna Og. The only way they can continue to keep their head above water (Kilcruise, Killeen and Barrowhouse) is to pool their resources and make life a little easier for themselves. You're talking about a relatively small area even with the three combined, so splitting them up after underage is ridiculous.

I welcome amalgamations because it shows a degree of ambition. It also shows that people are thinking about the future and the changing nature of modern life and how we contribute to the GAA. None of us have the time and dedication that previous generations had, and with admn, sponsorship and coaching, our clubs are a very different animal to what they were even 20 years ago. So in my opinion, there is strength in numbers and there is prosperity in numbers too. It's never nice to see the end of great clubs, but there are too many clubs in Laois that are hanging on by their fingertips or worse still, stuck in some sort of twilight zone where they never really compete for anything. I know club officials in some clubs who are worn out just trying to keep the thing functional, and it's no fun whatsoever. Not for them, not for the members and probably not the players. I'm all for giving yourself the best possible chance of succeeding, and I just believe that the very rare golden period is not enough to sustain a club over a lifetime. I respect and admire the opposing point of view of course, and I appreciate it's not as black and white as I've painted.
There are 2 sides to the argument and when a club like Mullinalaghta comes along everybody is warmed by what is almost a fairy tale. The reality is that organised team sport is in decline which is a reflection of modern society. Ironically, I think small town clubs are in deep trouble due to lack of volunteers. There is a greater chance that  Kilcavan, Trumera will survive due to the community spirit. That's why Abbeyleix and Ballinakill coming together makes sense as a combination of urban and rural areas will give them a critical mass to survive. I have always admired Ballinakill who always produce quality hurlers from a small base. Abbeyleix also have a proud hurling tradition but it pulls mainly from a town and  hurling is in trouble in small towns all over Ireland. The people looking to put this amalgamation together are hurling people first and foremost and putting the promotion of the game ahead of holding on to two GAA units that are probably going to struggle on their own.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: November 19, 2018, 12:08:02 AM »
Well done to Portlaoise. On a separate note, any truth in rumour of a tie up between Abbeyleix and Ballinakill.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: October 22, 2018, 12:07:01 PM »
And the u21 still hasn’t even started yet . Another farce
If I'm not mistaken, Laois GAA proposed to get rid of under 21 but they were outvoted by the county committee who wanted both under 19 and under 21. Personally I like the under 21 competitions but I don't think there is any room in the schedule for them anymore. For starters the modern adult hurling and football game is a young player's game.   

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: October 21, 2018, 11:29:08 PM »
Ridiculous to be shoe horning these competitions in. This was inevitable. And when a few clubs do it, it suddenly becomes acceptable and more clubs do it.
What's the alternative? Most under 19s worth their salt are playing adult during the summer months. Try fitting this competition in when clubs are in the final stages of the adult championships.

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