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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 20, 2020, 10:25:30 AM »
Spiritof1915 while there is alot of validity to a lot of the points you are making, I would ask you to remove the post above or at least edit to refrain from calling out young players "that cost Laois very badly". These young men are only 16 or 17 and the decisions that adults make have nothing to do with them.


Again while agree that parents shouldn't be involved with development squads, it is extremely difficult to get any coaches/mentors to take over development squads in Laois. I'm pretty sure Mike Henchy really struggled to find someone for one of the football development squads this year.

To be fair to the County Board, this was not their choice of minor management. This was almost forced on them with the addition of Derek McGrath, as has been mentioned earlier.


Zooming Around, a man with a Harty Cup, Waterford county title, National League title and was a couple of points away from winning an All-Ireland is the sole reason Laois Minors didn't beat Offaly in a first round game??? Are you having a laugh?

Who said it was the sole reason? But the sideshow and extra pressure and hype surrounding his involvement was very unhelpful. The proof is in the pudding. Last Saturday was a very poor performance by a talented group. They have regressed noticeably since he got involved.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 20, 2020, 10:22:27 AM »
Its my firm belief that no parent unless your in the calibre of Dj Carey should be over county squads. Its obvious that youll have allegiances to your own flesh and blood. Thats grand at club level but not at county. This point was proven on saturday with the managers son who tried hard but was out of his depth. He was also the designated freetaker when david dooley is by far and away the best. That cost Laois very badly on Saturday too.

In addition tell me another county where  2 parents with no coaching experience and no people skills apparently are allowed take over development squads because their young lads show promise at u13. .
What is the criteria for getting involved.
 Also this manager had a closed shop for trials since 2015 with this team and look how that worked out for him last saturday. Players that could of been developing at IC standard for 2 years where denied. After 15 mins he brought off a corner back and replaced him with the corner forward. Are you telling me that he had no one else in mind to play as a corner back. Some kick up in the hole for the rest of the backs in the squad training so hard for 11 months.

As regards the vendettas he didnt even have young Murphy in a panel of 45 when he named it last november. And to make it worse i have since found out he marked the shite out off the offaly No 13 who done all the damage on Saturday in a schools A1 leinster final for johnstown against birr last October. Also young costigan from Rathdowney wasnt picked because he had words with his referee father at a schools match.
So to answer your question - both



I said it before and ill say it again. When will the county board realise that parents with young lads on the team and over county teams/development squads is a complete disaster.  We need to be looking at fresh former players or people with the profile of derek mcgrath who have no club bias or agendas behind them. I know it didnt affect the game today but the last 4 years have ultimately been brutal with the talent available. The talent is there in laois but needs proper development. Not sold to the highest bidder as was the case this year.
This years manager left out 2 of the best prosects that i know off over personal squabbles or vendettas. Would that happen in any other serious hurling county.
Young stephen murphy from The harps was the best full back by a country mile in this years club championship and marked offaly danger man Luke carey off the field i believe in a leinster final for johnstown against birr earlier this year. But because he left the panel at u14 of his own accord the laois manager refused to put him on the panel this year.


Can I just clarify. You say they shouldn't have been picked as mentors because they are parents. Then you give out about them leaving off lads because of "personal squabbles or vendettas". Which is it? What was the problem with the fact that they are parents?

To me, the whole blame lies with Derek McGrath. He is a complete and proven bluffer and the side show surrounding him borders on a circus. His drills are pathetic with nothing less than a million cones dotted all over the pitch. When these lads were younger they played brilliant off the cuff fast delivery hurling and all this has now been undone with over tactical tippy tappy scientific shite.

Two things stood out from a positional sense. Moving Padraig Brennan out of centre back and playing a two man full forward line with two small lads is just stupid.

If the lads over the team had just gotten on with it themselves without McGrath they would have done much better.

Thank you for clarifying

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 19, 2020, 05:06:15 PM »
I said it before and ill say it again. When will the county board realise that parents with young lads on the team and over county teams/development squads is a complete disaster.  We need to be looking at fresh former players or people with the profile of derek mcgrath who have no club bias or agendas behind them. I know it didnt affect the game today but the last 4 years have ultimately been brutal with the talent available. The talent is there in laois but needs proper development. Not sold to the highest bidder as was the case this year.
This years manager left out 2 of the best prosects that i know off over personal squabbles or vendettas. Would that happen in any other serious hurling county.
Young stephen murphy from The harps was the best full back by a country mile in this years club championship and marked offaly danger man Luke carey off the field i believe in a leinster final for johnstown against birr earlier this year. But because he left the panel at u14 of his own accord the laois manager refused to put him on the panel this year.


Can I just clarify. You say they shouldn't have been picked as mentors because they are parents. Then you give out about them leaving off lads because of "personal squabbles or vendettas". Which is it? What was the problem with the fact that they are parents?

To me, the whole blame lies with Derek McGrath. He is a complete and proven bluffer and the side show surrounding him borders on a circus. His drills are pathetic with nothing less than a million cones dotted all over the pitch. When these lads were younger they played brilliant off the cuff fast delivery hurling and all this has now been undone with over tactical tippy tappy scientific shite.

Two things stood out from a positional sense. Moving Padraig Brennan out of centre back and playing a two man full forward line with two small lads is just stupid.

If the lads over the team had just gotten on with it themselves without McGrath they would have done much better.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 08, 2020, 05:49:22 PM »
Clonadmad and Burdizzo should delete their posts too as the link is embedded in their replies

Is it not publicly accessible on YouTube?

I doubt it. I'd say it's a private channel for the players. Lot's of teams use this method to show games and clips to players

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 08, 2020, 04:55:02 PM »
Clonadmad and Burdizzo should delete their posts too as the link is embedded in their replies

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 08, 2020, 03:35:30 PM »
Jayz I think I'd take down that video. Not so sure its a good idea to be putting that up online for all other counties to view.

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Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
« on: October 05, 2020, 11:32:22 AM »
Surely the CB will bring it forward now? Extremely unfair on the clubs involved. Obviously a decision needs to be made asap, I really hope they see sense.

Any reason why the draw was not made yesterday?


Don't ever put those words together.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 05, 2020, 11:29:24 AM »
Great game. It was very tense and everybody gave it everything. Great win for our lads who have improved steadily from u14 to minor. Didn't really figure in the shake up at u14 three years ago. Delighted for the lads over the team who have put in savage work. The style of play was really good to watch. The Harps drove a lot of wides and this seemed to drain their confidence. Also a couple of injuries impacted them. The dribbler did a good job reffing it too.

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Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
« on: August 05, 2020, 05:09:35 PM »
What would be the best games to stream?

Courtwood v O'Dempseys and Rosenallis v Ballyfin I'd say

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: July 27, 2020, 02:24:15 PM »
There is a lot of weekend and evening work involved with the job. Apart from schools, no club wants a GDA during the day Monday to Friday. I'd imagine having a social life would be quite difficult. I have to say all the GDA's we have had have always been more than willing to help clubs when asked and have brought value to every session. Peter will be missed.

I'd agree with you there. I always find them very helpful when they come to our club.

Is there any word on a replacement for Peter Halley.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: July 06, 2020, 10:40:54 AM »
it's strange. Being a GDA seems like a good job to have. You'd wonder why we can't hang on to them.

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Laois / Re: Laois - Bits & Pieces
« on: June 08, 2020, 01:10:02 PM »
Former Leinster GAA coach Lester Ryan was tragically killed at the weekend. He served as a selector/administrator with our Senior Hurling team for a year.

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Laois / Re: Laois - Bits & Pieces
« on: May 30, 2020, 09:05:58 AM »
Anyone want to have a go at the Laois 'Mount Rushmore' which Off the Ball are doing for every county.

Pat Critchley, Ann Keenan Buckley, Tony Byrne - footballer played for Ireland and had a career at Millwall and Southampton, TJ Doheny.


Willy Hyland and Ross Munnelly have to be right up there too along with Cheddar, Niall Handy and Jack Nolan

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Laois / Re: Laois - Bits & Pieces
« on: May 06, 2020, 12:25:07 PM »
Nothing on this board for a month. Easy know the schools are off.

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Laois / Re: Laois senior hurling memories
« on: March 23, 2020, 01:08:03 PM »
With the lack of games to be discussing I thought we could delve into the past and talk about games in times past.

1 - Best memory supporting the hurlers - The win over Dublin last year (senior). The win over KK in the Forristal a few years ago (Juvenile)
2 - Favourite match - The win over Offaly a few years ago where we scored 30 points. A tactical masterclass
3 - Favourite player pre 2000, post 2000 (for the older lads) - Pre Paul Cuddy. Post Paddy Purcell.
4 - Best score/Favourite score - David Dooley's 65 in the above Forristal game v Kilkenny.
5 - Best individual display in a match - John Taylor v Kilkenny in Carlow in 84
6 - Match with best atmosphere - Galway 2013 in the Park
7 - Most disappointing memory ( you can rank them) - 1. Galway 2013, 2. the Cork 10 goal hammering.
8 - Worst refereeing decision against us -
9 - Most impressive victory - The above Offaly game

If more than 1 in each category then list them 1,2,3

If you have anything to add to it fire away

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