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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 22, 2019, 01:53:55 PM »
Irony goes over some people's head.

To be honest, your whole argument is pointless. I disagree with you. You disagree with me. It happened. Life goes on. I'm sure we'll cross swords about something else, because it's obvious you have stuff to say. I have no problem with that, but don't try to humiliate people, because as others have learned, some of us bite back.

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 10:53:51 PM »
The reverse of your argument Ollie is that the Divisional sorts the wheat from the chaff. It's a worthwhile exercise in my opinion

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 09:14:28 PM »
Spot on Laoiseabu. A non discussion if ever there was one. His card will be well marked

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 08:43:50 PM »
Actually I think young Kinsella in courtwood might fit that bill. I think hes in his last year u20 now. So going back to the club next year Id say Whelan in Ballyroan the same. So they need to be seen as they are there or thereabouts but were gone from championship before current man was appointed

Both obviously on the radar. Terrible examples. The whole county knows about them. They're hardly going to slip through the cracks, although I honestly feel both have a long way to go

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 08:41:11 PM »
I responded to this because it was said that lads played in the Divisional and not for their club. Without knowing why, I think that's getting your priorities wrong. We have an Under 20 grade so that should be their priority. They can play if they want or don't want. I really don't give two f##ks one way or the other. But you can't bypass Under 20 to play Senior, so it's questionable what they were hoping to achieve

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 08:03:51 PM »
How many lads does that apply to in fairness? If you have someone in mind, say so. Otherwise we're getting into the realms of the unknown

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:48:22 PM »
The two players mentioned are only out of minor (u17 actually) . Would it not be more in their interests to play the u20 game and push on and maybe make the Laois u20 panel? Senior intercounty football is a bit of a jump for lads still only 18 and neither were on the u20 panel this year . Probably will be this year though .

Exactly

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:47:21 PM »
Why shouldn't u20's have played the divisional matches? I don't agree  with players missing club games over the divisional  games but why shouldn't u20's play these games?

Because we have an Under 20 team. That's enough for them. If they excel in that grade, they will get their chance. That has already been proven.

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:21:50 PM »
The circumstances are irrelevant. No U20 player should have played in the Divisional full stop. It wasn't necessary. As I write that, I'm aware that there's no Under 20 manager and the Minor manager has already been ridiculed. So maybe the players just wanted to attach themselves to something that looked half decent. I don't think they belonged there personally, and particularly not at the expense of their club side. As for the competition itself, there's nothing wrong with it. It was obviously popular with players and I'm sure Quirke was happy to see what's out there

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 02:23:28 PM »
You learn plenty about a player in these sort of situations. Some rise to the challenge and some don't. I doubt Sugrue started this just to have a kick about on a Saturday afternoon. The only harm done here is by a few eager young lads. Quirke would never have seen some of these lads but for the competition. That alone makes it worthwhile

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 11:35:46 AM »
Some of these young lads are getting ahead of themselves. This isn't the Underdogs FFS. Bide your time and contribute to what is hopefully going to be a good U20 team. We're too small a county for good lads to go unnoticed. I'd think more of the lad who is loyal and committed to a small set up than the glory hunter who goes looking for the bright lights. You have to prove yourself worthy

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 21, 2019, 10:09:01 AM »
Nothing wrong with the Divisional Championship at all. I agree with a poster above that the U20's shouldn't be there in the first place. Any lad who misses a club match for a shot at Senior football is naive to say the least. But blaming the Divisional Championship is putting the cart before the horse

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Laois / Re: Laois U20 Championship
« on: October 20, 2019, 11:50:08 PM »
It wasn't necessary to skip one for the other, or worse still, play in both. If they're good enough they will be seen and that was proven last year with O Flynn and others. You need to be pretty special to be called up to Senior when you're still underage, so they'd be better off sticking with Underage for as long as possible. There's plenty of time. Young lads tend to get itchy. The lure of the plane to America will be all that interests some of them next summer

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Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
« on: October 16, 2019, 08:27:44 AM »
Portlaoise and Newbridge are towns of similar size. Where Newbridge has two successful senior football clubs both side have men on kildare panel.it works in Newbridge why not portlaoise. Myself Im live in a town and everyone thinks because of the population its easy to raise money but its not we have a lot of competition from other sports within the town. Soccer swimming rugby tennis golf there just a few clubs I can name more.even outside football clubs.maybe if portlaoise and my own club Portarlington where debt free we would have the money to pay these coaches.for the Likes  of us and portlaoise in order to develop we had to buy  Land or move ground.we All know land in a town is far more expensive that land out in rural areas.

These clubs were founded over 100 years ago. There is no appetite for change in Portlaoise, so who is going to set up a second club and who would want to play for it? The problem here doesn't need to be halved or quartered. There are perfectly good foundations in Laois and Portlaoise, but we choose to give Portlaoise a free ride by trying to compete with them as small clubs. It's once in a blue moon stuff, just like county level. Numbers will always win out in the long term, because the chances of getting a better team are increased with a bigger pick. The problem for the GAA and Portlaoise in this context is wastage. How many players are slipping through the cracks because resources are scarce or there's very little interest for older players if they're not on the Senior team.

Proportionately speaking, Laois is not getting enough from Portlaoise and they're not doing enough outside Laois for the size of club that they are. I believe there's enough in all that for us to worry about, but I'm fairly sure that most people just want them to come back to the field.

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Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
« on: October 15, 2019, 06:03:41 PM »
I don't think we should ignore the fact that Portlaoise as the cardinal urban area needs attention.
It is worth noting that this is how the discussion re Dublin in the wider GAA began a number of years ago.

Ignoring it is cutting our noses off to spite our face, go full hog and we might just create a monster.

Most of the problems in the GAA are numbers related. There are too many matches and too many clubs in general, and not enough referees to officiate. In the context of Portlaoise, splitting them up is not the answer, but amalgamating around them is. We already have the solution at underage, and bizarrely, we walk away from it once players hit a certain age. We should be running our games to make ourselves better, but it seems to me we are waiting for the thing to level out. 

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