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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 18, 2019, 03:51:36 PM »
Room for Aiden
Mc crory but not Coney!

Coney wouldn't be great at CHB....

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 17, 2019, 01:15:19 PM »
SF swear an oath at Stormont. A British manufactured political assembly that recognises Northern Ireland and partition. Whatís the difference swearing an oath to this than at Westminster?

Itís government on the island of Ireland for the north of Ireland and no allegiance to a foreign sovereign state. I would have thought this much is obvious.

The north is under British rule. Itís part of the uk. Itís a British political entity. It may have its own assembly like Scotland and Wales, but itís a British state. As hard as that is for some people to admit, thatís the reality.
It's a power sharing assembly.

Well, that was the theory anyway.

But itís still an assembly governing a part of the UK. That will be the case until thereís a UI.
Of course. However there is North South institutions and Stormont now embraces the principle of consent. But tbh,  I think we're going of on a tangent. 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 17, 2019, 12:50:07 PM »
SF swear an oath at Stormont. A British manufactured political assembly that recognises Northern Ireland and partition. Whatís the difference swearing an oath to this than at Westminster?

Itís government on the island of Ireland for the north of Ireland and no allegiance to a foreign sovereign state. I would have thought this much is obvious.

The north is under British rule. Itís part of the uk. Itís a British political entity. It may have its own assembly like Scotland and Wales, but itís a British state. As hard as that is for some people to admit, thatís the reality.
It's a power sharing assembly.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 17, 2019, 12:11:38 PM »
I'd say your knowledge of "The South" is fairly limited.
That actually cuts both ways many from the south do not understand nationalists in the North, or their motivations. They criticise without the benefit of the experience many nationalists had of the state in which they grew up. Prime example are those FF Republicans sniping at SF for not swearing an oath to the Queen, they don't get that people voted SF on that basis. I would not swear an oath to the Queen why would I expect my MP to do so? There are other examples as well.
Mark Durkan never swore an oath of allegiance to the Queen
SF defences of abstentionism are bollocks

you sure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaZaRmuU4Q

He swore his affirmation for the Queen and the world didn't cave in??

Crazy . . .

Well he won't have to swear it any time again in the future if that gives you a clue about the consequences.

Nonsense!!

If Sinn Fein took their seats they would not lose voters . . . who else would the Nationalist/Republican community vote for??!!

The SDLP are in disarray and there's literally nobody else!
They most certainly would lose voters. Maybe not massive amounts but they would certainly lose some and it would definitely have an impact.
I vote SF, They annoy the sh!te out of me on some issues but they're the closest party to my political views.  I agree with their view of Absenteeism as I think the actual power they would get in WM is not balanced out by having to swear an allegiance to the Queen. If SF were to attend WM what respect or power do you think they would be given. No UK party would cosy up to them the way they did to the DUP to try and buy their votes. They would be toxic. Therefore I don't see enough of a benefit to justify the oath.   

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:04:20 AM »
I'd say your knowledge of "The South" is fairly limited.
That actually cuts both ways many from the south do not understand nationalists in the North, or their motivations. They criticise without the benefit of the experience many nationalists had of the state in which they grew up. Prime example are those FF Republicans sniping at SF for not swearing an oath to the Queen, they don't get that people voted SF on that basis. I would not swear an oath to the Queen why would I expect my MP to do so? There are other examples as well.
Mark Durkan never swore an oath of allegiance to the Queen
SF defences of abstentionism are bollocks

you sure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaZaRmuU4Q

Jut goes to show the lack of knowledge of some on NI.

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General discussion / Re: DIY thread
« on: January 14, 2019, 04:38:22 PM »
Was looking to put in a sensor light above the front door. Any advise? Anyone tried one of the solar ones? Are they much use here with the lack of sunshine. Would prefer this than trying to retrofit a wired one. Thanks in advance.

I have a couple of the solar ones. They haven't been able to charge on a number of occasions in the last six weeks because of the dull weather. They're grand when they work!

Yeah that was my fear. Might have a quick google around but really want to avoid having to wire one in if possible.
Wiring one would be the best way imo, but if you really don't want to have to do that then B&Q sell a battery powered range of sensor lights. Like this for example.

https://www.diy.com/departments/b-q-lethe-black-1w-battery-powered-external-pir-security-light/1138616_BQ.prd

Cheers LL. It's on a stonework porch and I'm assuming it would have to run over the stonework from existing exterior light to the sensor/ light? Trying to avoid the wires. Alternatively is there any way to wire in sensor to existing lights? (Apologies for my lack of electrical knowledge)

EDIT** Should have said without changing the type of lights (They're up down lights and the sunroom has the same matching lights so don't want to have to change them all)

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General discussion / Re: DIY thread
« on: January 14, 2019, 02:03:27 PM »
Was looking to put in a sensor light above the front door. Any advise? Anyone tried one of the solar ones? Are they much use here with the lack of sunshine. Would prefer this than trying to retrofit a wired one. Thanks in advance.

I have a couple of the solar ones. They haven't been able to charge on a number of occasions in the last six weeks because of the dull weather. They're grand when they work!

Yeah that was my fear. Might have a quick google around but really want to avoid having to wire one in if possible.

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General discussion / Re: DIY thread
« on: January 13, 2019, 09:03:58 PM »
Was looking to put in a sensor light above the front door. Any advise? Anyone tried one of the solar ones? Are they much use here with the lack of sunshine. Would prefer this than trying to retrofit a wired one. Thanks in advance.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 11, 2019, 03:24:53 PM »
The DUP really fecked up with this from the start. They could now be in a position where they could be proclaiming to have maintained the union with GB and also help deliver what would be a fantastic economic opportunity for NI (Which in itself would have reinforced people's acceptance of the status quo). They could have played down the improved links with the South as improved links with the EU market to keep their own supports on side and be portraying this as a success and trying to take the credit for it. Instead they are slowing realising they have backed the wrong horse and can't be seen to lose face to back down despite some of their own supporters turning on them.

Not sure about the fact they realise they've backed the wrong horse as their public utterings haven't changed much since the get go.
If they have realised they have backed the wrong horse then they need a face saving way out and with the EU still not for changing any legal text on the backstop it's hard to see them ceding ground on Tuesday.

No Tony Blair doublespeak available to save the day for them.

I honestly can't see how the wouldn't realise the mess they've put themselves in. But I think because they were that ferociously in favour of Brexit initially they can't change direction now without admitting they completed misread the circumstances and repercussions and would have to publicly admit they were wrong (When do the DUP ever do this, scratch that, when do politicians ever do that!!). So they have to keep ploughing ahead in the faint hope that there will be some magically deal that they can get behind and when that doesn't happen then either the Tories dump them and fire on with the deal (Or at least a similar one) or if there's no deal they lose support from some of their more realistic supporters when the sh!te hits the fan.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 11, 2019, 02:19:43 PM »
The DUP really fecked up with this from the start. They could now be in a position where they could be proclaiming to have maintained the union with GB and also help deliver what would be a fantastic economic opportunity for NI (Which in itself would have reinforced people's acceptance of the status quo). They could have played down the improved links with the South as improved links with the EU market to keep their own supports on side and be portraying this as a success and trying to take the credit for it. Instead they are slowing realising they have backed the wrong horse and can't be seen to lose face to back down despite some of their own supporters turning on them.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 09, 2019, 01:46:38 PM »
As a northern nationalist who fully supports a united Ireland, gay marriage, abortion rights and an Irish language act who do you suggest I vote for? The shinners, for all their faults, are the only show in town.

Jaysus, thatís a depressing thought.

A United ireland, gay marriage, ILA, abortion - SF push those because they know DUP are against all. I honestly think SF donít care about GM/ILA/abortion, they just want to try to show DUP as these Neanderthals because they donít support them. SF need To feed off the DUP for their own survival and to remain relevant. And vice versa.

SF have done f**k all. But they divert attention from that by rubbing the DUP up the wrong way. Itís a pathetic charade.

There is literally NO show in town for almost half the population of the North. At least the DUP and Sammy are at Westminster spouting absolute drivel that their base laps up. Sinn Fein are doing ABSOLUTELY f**king NOTHING as they hope if they stay quiet enough theyíll get their border poll.

No Government because of no Irish language act? Weíre past that now lads get the Government up and running and peopleís lives back to normal and we can have the border poll in a few years once we have the majority . . . The irony being the South probably wonít want to take us on anyway!!

We are badly lacking leadership and I actually think McGuinness wouldnít have us in this position. Heís such a loss for the North weíre only starting to appreciate the work he did in holding it all together for so long!!

Here I'll kick SF as much as any in NI but it's not just the ILA that brought down Stormont. The DUP are unworkable with. The ILA was just the breaking point. The DUP don't understand negotiations or compromise. SF aren't much better to be honest but the DUP are on another level. Every concession they give to anything Irish is seen as a defeat and they fight it as much as possible.

SF facilitated the DUP. SIF is a perfect example. SF are every bit as bad as the DUP for letting them away with it. SF and the DUP are unable to govern. They only lasted 11 months without the other parties in the executive, no budget for example. They couldn't run a bath.
So you're saying SF are bad because they are letting the DUP away with it, Screenexcile is saying they should forget about things and try and make it work with the DUP and getting Stormont up and running again. So whichever way they decide to go they are going to get slated. For what it's worth, I think they made the correct decision walking away. They DUP needed to learn that they didn't have sole control of NI. It had been building and hopefully will make the DUP realise in the Long run that they need to engage better and not see any reference to Irish culture as a negative.

They should get Stormont up and running again. And while they're at it they should DO THEIR f**king JOBS and run the executive like an office of government rather than a vehicle for corruption.
And give in to a DUP Veto on everything? You're statement sounds great but is incredibly naive. Stormont was set up as a Power sharing agreement. If the DUP are unwilling to share power then it's outside of SF's control. And that's basically what it comes down to. The choice is to either give in and let the DUP control power completely in NI or No stormont. They tried negotiations with the DUP who refused to budge. I don't agree that it should always be SF/ Nationalists who have to move on their position. If you have a realistic plan of how to get Stormont up and running again other than just giving into the DUP again then I'd be interested in hearing it, but needs to be a bit more that "they should DO THEIR f**king JOBS".
Personally I think SF come  with that much baggage that the DUP are always on the defensive and SF have to deal with that in a better way than they are doing. 

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 09, 2019, 12:41:33 PM »
As a northern nationalist who fully supports a united Ireland, gay marriage, abortion rights and an Irish language act who do you suggest I vote for? The shinners, for all their faults, are the only show in town.

Jaysus, thatís a depressing thought.

A United ireland, gay marriage, ILA, abortion - SF push those because they know DUP are against all. I honestly think SF donít care about GM/ILA/abortion, they just want to try to show DUP as these Neanderthals because they donít support them. SF need To feed off the DUP for their own survival and to remain relevant. And vice versa.

SF have done f**k all. But they divert attention from that by rubbing the DUP up the wrong way. Itís a pathetic charade.

There is literally NO show in town for almost half the population of the North. At least the DUP and Sammy are at Westminster spouting absolute drivel that their base laps up. Sinn Fein are doing ABSOLUTELY f**king NOTHING as they hope if they stay quiet enough theyíll get their border poll.

No Government because of no Irish language act? Weíre past that now lads get the Government up and running and peopleís lives back to normal and we can have the border poll in a few years once we have the majority . . . The irony being the South probably wonít want to take us on anyway!!

We are badly lacking leadership and I actually think McGuinness wouldnít have us in this position. Heís such a loss for the North weíre only starting to appreciate the work he did in holding it all together for so long!!

Here I'll kick SF as much as any in NI but it's not just the ILA that brought down Stormont. The DUP are unworkable with. The ILA was just the breaking point. The DUP don't understand negotiations or compromise. SF aren't much better to be honest but the DUP are on another level. Every concession they give to anything Irish is seen as a defeat and they fight it as much as possible.

SF facilitated the DUP. SIF is a perfect example. SF are every bit as bad as the DUP for letting them away with it. SF and the DUP are unable to govern. They only lasted 11 months without the other parties in the executive, no budget for example. They couldn't run a bath.
So you're saying SF are bad because they are letting the DUP away with it, Screenexcile is saying they should forget about things and try and make it work with the DUP and getting Stormont up and running again. So whichever way they decide to go they are going to get slated. For what it's worth, I think they made the correct decision walking away. They DUP needed to learn that they didn't have sole control of NI. It had been building and hopefully will make the DUP realise in the Long run that they need to engage better and not see any reference to Irish culture as a negative. 

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Telling that the rule most complain about is the anti throwball one.

True, The person who came up with it should be shot with a ball of their own sh!te.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 09, 2019, 10:06:36 AM »
As a northern nationalist who fully supports a united Ireland, gay marriage, abortion rights and an Irish language act who do you suggest I vote for? The shinners, for all their faults, are the only show in town.

Jaysus, thatís a depressing thought.

A United ireland, gay marriage, ILA, abortion - SF push those because they know DUP are against all. I honestly think SF donít care about GM/ILA/abortion, they just want to try to show DUP as these Neanderthals because they donít support them. SF need To feed off the DUP for their own survival and to remain relevant. And vice versa.

SF have done f**k all. But they divert attention from that by rubbing the DUP up the wrong way. Itís a pathetic charade.

There is literally NO show in town for almost half the population of the North. At least the DUP and Sammy are at Westminster spouting absolute drivel that their base laps up. Sinn Fein are doing ABSOLUTELY f**king NOTHING as they hope if they stay quiet enough theyíll get their border poll.

No Government because of no Irish language act? Weíre past that now lads get the Government up and running and peopleís lives back to normal and we can have the border poll in a few years once we have the majority . . . The irony being the South probably wonít want to take us on anyway!!

We are badly lacking leadership and I actually think McGuinness wouldnít have us in this position. Heís such a loss for the North weíre only starting to appreciate the work he did in holding it all together for so long!!

Here I'll kick SF as much as any in NI but it's not just the ILA that brought down Stormont. The DUP are unworkable with. The ILA was just the breaking point. The DUP don't understand negotiations or compromise. SF aren't much better to be honest but the DUP are on another level. Every concession they give to anything Irish is seen as a defeat and they fight it as much as possible.   

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I also think Bonner and Harte etc would rather moan and whinge about the rules, get them thrown out now instead of actually sitting down and seeing how they would make them work for their team. Of all teams I think Donegal could do really well if they pushed up hard on the opposition.

Are the managers not allowed to voice their opinion on the rules the same as everyone else? If they think they are sh!te, surely they are entitled to say that. Doesn't mean they have to be listened to but I wouldn't expect them to lie about what they thought of them either.

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