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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: June 29, 2015, 03:05:28 AM »
The live coverage with Brolly and Spillane before the Meath game started like the announcement of a death in your family. So downbeat and depressing the first ten minutes without talking about the games themselves.

Spillane has gone so far beyond contributing anything worthwhile to the show. I honestly don't know how he or half of those pundits are still receiving a salary from RTE. Pat has amazingly somehow combined the talents of a broken record and an empty vessel to create his own unique blend of shite talking.

Brolly at least gets around to analysing the game while making some good points occasionally.

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Having just watched the match there as I was in the hospital with my new born son. So thankfully this game doesn't hurt as much as it might have.

On my first watching of it seems Mick O'Dowd made the wrong changes at the wrong time. No reason for Rooney to go for Flanagan. Flanagan brought nothing. Mickey Burke might not have many fans here but he was better than what replaced him. MOD had his hand forced by the black cards, maybe I'm biased but I thought Reilly's was completely wrong. Tobin however definitely had to go.

Fair enough injuries also played a part as a lot of the lads out there wouldn't be on the starting 15 if we had a fully fit squad. But why the hell Martin was left to run riot in the corner against a small back like McGill on his own. That said we probably didn't have anyone but had we not made some unforced changes so early maybe something could have been done.

I'm half tempted to start saying MOD and Trevor Giles should pack their bags but again injuries haven't helped things. But I feel I'm making excuses for a poorly prepared squad. Young lads whatever nerves might effect them or any lack of talent but shouldn't look so jaded. The Westmeath team had as many young lads out there.

I think it's time for Mick to step aside. While I know he's had some bad luck at times and in the first half we played some great football among a scatter of poor errors. It hasn't all been bad but they've never put in a commanding display for a full 70mins under MOD. I'm really not sure who there is to replace him in the county. Dare I say it it's time to look outside the county again at someone who has some serious credentials. Although there is much more that needs to be done within the county if we are to start competing at the highest level. Watching Dublin now and seeing the standard we have to meet its clear we do not have any players that would get on that team.

I know people are a bit despondent about Gaelic football these days but if we ever get another team as good to match this current Dublin team we'll have some class matches to look forward to. Sadly Meath are just not there right now.

As for Paddy O'Rourke. Not all that surprised, he's always been liable to do that kind of thing. It's probably fair to say the brains didnt end up on his branch of the O'Rourke family tree. Even before the sending off he had a poor game with some sloppy kick outs and I think he could have done better for two of the goals.

Fair play to Westmeath though. They never stopped playing despite the scoreline and their management made the changes to try and win the game while MOD did the opposite.


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No mention of it being off yet. I'm surprised.

Club games have been postponed as far as I know.

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Meath (SFC v Westmeath):

1. Patrick O Rourke{Skryne}

2. James Mc Entee {Curraha}
3.Conor Mc Gill {Ratoath}
4. Donncha Tobin {Blackhall Gaels}

5. Mickey Burke{ Longwood}
6. Donal Keogan {Rathkenny} Capt.
7. Bryan Menton { Donaghmore Ashbourne}

8. Harry Rooney {Skryne}
9. Kevin Reilly [Navan O Mahony's}

10 Graham Reilly {St. Colmcille's}
11 Padraic Harnan {Moynalvey}
12 Andrew Tormey {Donaghmore Ashbourne}

13 Michael Newman{Kilmainham}
14 Stephen Bray {Navan O'Mahony's}
15 Brian Mc Mahon {Ratoath}

K Reilly at no. 9? I'd say Menton will be there more like.

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Shane O'Rourke and Gillespie are still out but Menton, Reilly, Newman and McGill should be available. How fit they are will be another matter but better to have than to have not.

Still not feeling too hopeful but we can make a decent fist of it while we're out there.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Celtic Tiger killed Meath football
« on: June 18, 2015, 11:55:26 AM »
I agree, the likes of Cian Ward and Joe Sheriden still among the best players at club level and could offer a lot. There have been a few retirements though that I thought were premature like Meade and King.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Celtic Tiger killed Meath football
« on: June 18, 2015, 12:26:11 AM »
It's not karma. It's deep rooted complacency at county board level and I think the generation of young men that followed the glory years became more interested in watching football than playing it.

The state of pairc tailteann tells it's own story of how poorly the game is being run. The county is full of bystanders who are great at pointing out flaws but short on solutions and absent when it comes to putting a shoulder to the wheel.

Perhaps that's why three of our greatest talents of the last 30 years are much happier being commentators or columnists and don't want to take the reigns of county management.

The memories of the bygone glories are about the only thing that propels us forward and not because of great work going on at the top.

Whereas Dublin started putting things in place and planned a way forward with the right people leading the game at the top. They are reaping the rewards now.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Celtic Tiger killed Meath football
« on: June 16, 2015, 09:58:46 AM »
Sean Boylan reckoned changing the club championship from a straight knock out to a league would damage the psyche of Meath footballers. Perhaps he was right.

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Mickey may not be the most talented footballer but he puts in a mountain of work and is totally dedicated to the Meath cause, not just for the footballers but the hurlers too. I wish some of the other lads had the drive and dedication he has.

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Hopefully a few broken fingers will have mended in time for this, though the lads coming back might be a bit rusty. If we don't get McGill, Reilly or Menton back I think we'll be really up against it. Even Mickey Burke isn't 100% and still played today.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM »
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The official dark arts/cynical play thread
« on: June 14, 2015, 10:11:57 PM »
It wasn't so bad until the last ten minutes when it just turned wholly negative. That said Galway seemed to play into Mayo's hands at the end by trying to work their way up the field through hand passing and getting dragged down every ten yards or so.

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Not really. The game went almost exactly as anticipated. We got through it with a weakened side and that's enough to be said.

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To be fair they've all been blooded in the league and lads like Dalton, Joey Wallace, Judge and McMahon have been on the panel for long enough now, so it's not before their due time to get a championship start.

There's a bit of inexperience in the half back line which might be a worry. Rooney has shown a lot of early promise so hopefully championship football doesn't phase him.

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When was the last time we had all our best players fit going into a championship match?


Problem is I think some of them lads were born injured, particularly SOR and Kevin Reilly.

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