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[they don't ever be seen]

Who is financially backing A5A

If they are big landowners I'm sure they aren't shy of a few quid.

I would doubt they would be pouring their own money into this - some aren't even from the area.

Part of the group - they don't ever be seen but they include:
'We have teachers, retired teachers, civil servants, retired civil servants, quantity surveyors, veterinary surgeons, postmasters.'

They will not comment on how may are in the group but:

'a group of between three and six key figures tend to "get on with the thing'

They wont meet with MLAs

I'd say if you scrutinised them and followed the money it would give you a very interesting insight into this whole thing.

They crawled out from under their rock at court yesterday, the horrible b*****ds:

Tel Aviv

Iran's missiles are getting through.

They're making a serious mess.

This is only going to get worse for all involved and whilst it's hard to have any sympathy for Israelis there are going to be innocents killed in big numbers with the West pouring fuel to the fire as usual.

AI created. Keep an eye on two cars merging into one on the bottom right at the start.

Isnt't there a Ukraine thread?

[and not resorting to the cheap lazy labelling]

If Tommy Robinson was in charge it's still going to be the same...

Either of these things, a UI or the rise in immigration/asylum will have a small bearing on things.

I think social media makes things a lot worse in lots of different ways.

Look after your health and your family.

People coming to these shores will continue, if I grew up in one of those countries I'd be making my way here too, unless governments around the globe make their homelands safe, uncorrupt, fair, democratic, and so on then people will continue to take perilous journeys for a better life. And who can blame them.

Stop problem at source, fix problem at source that'll stop the people coming..

Keep voting in the same government every year and keep getting the same results is what?

Can't say i disagree with any of that. Thank you for coming back with a reasonable reply and not resorting to the cheap lazy labelling such as Far Right, Fascist or Racist. In the main there are very few in those categories in Ireland.

'Thanks for not making cheap and lazy comments', sez the fella that responded to a debate on a border poll with "tHer'LL Be nO iRIsH leFt".

Take your lazy, racist sh!te elsewhere, like a good man.

It's the same government that has been facilitating the transport of munitions to Israel for use in a genocide.

Yep, they're playing catch up with their people.
18 months too late but it's a start.

Even Trump was disgusted with the photos coming out of Gaza. He said he didn't want famine happening during his presidency. That's a defeat for the ultra right wing Nazis in the Israeli government.

Crushing thousands of children under concrete was fine with him though. F**kers the lot of these western leaders.

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

Are you for real?? You think the decision to force all reporters to preface the title of the Health Ministry with the preface "Hamas run" isn't propagandistic?

I see Jimmy Carr has outed himself as a zionist b*****d after hosting an event in the British Museum "celebrating" Israel with guests that ranged from Reform and Tory MPs, to GB news presenters and genocidal Israeli ambassadors.

Don't recall an Taoiseach saying the 26 Counties is in a worse state than the 6.

I was more referencing the hostility towards any suggestion of a border poll and a 32 county independent Ireland.

Wildweasel sounds like a 1980s unionist....

Or a modern day Fianna Fáil Taoiseach.

My da has fibrus and they added a "safety" block there recently. I had to log in and disable it. I had been keeping an eye out for it as my provider warned us the internet companies were doing it.

How might one naviagte to the setting to disable it? Asking for a friend.

He implicitly linked immigration to (unproven) rising crime and unsafe streets. It's ok though, he said very little and he did say "it's not the only reason".

Isn't that how it works?

as I posted earlier, I haven't seen the abuse he received and would be interested to see it, if anyone could share some of it. 

all i see is support and i think it is scary how many people seem to think he said nothing wrong.

In your mind what did he say that was actually wrong. Shutting down conversations on topics is what create problems

What he said that was verifiably wrong has been spelled out numerous times in the last few pages. I don't intend to repeat myself, save to ask one question:

He claimed that "the government does not allow people to express their concerns" about immigration. If that is true (and we've been told by the great and the good that he didnt say anything that wasn't true), then do we know yet what gulag the regime has sent him to for publically expressing his concerns?

He implicitly linked immigration to (unproven) rising crime and unsafe streets. It's ok though, he said very little and he did say "it's not the only reason".

Isn't that how it works?

as I posted earlier, I haven't seen the abuse he received and would be interested to see it, if anyone could share some of it. 

all i see is support and i think it is scary how many people seem to think he said nothing wrong.

In your mind what did he say that was actually wrong. Shutting down conversations on topics is what create problems

Very little of what he said was statistically factual if you bothered checking. He also tried to suggest migration was linked to standard of living which is a load of horsesh!t, and then claimed that the government doesn't allow people to talk about immigration, even though he was literally doing so on social media to his thousands of followers.

And yet we still have the great and the good coming out in droves to defend him, insisting "he didn't say anything that wasn't true". Its actually very unsettling how right wing/racist lies are becoming so widely defended as perfectly true and normal and acceptable as soon as a mainstream figure like Noone starts peddling them.

[what he said was moderate enough and quite accurate.]

never heard of this Noone fella until yesterday but what he said was moderate enough and quite accurate.

He repeated the racist trope that quality of living is linked to migration which anyone with a quarter of a braincell left understands is absolute horsesh!t.

As is his claim that quality of life is declining. Just about every study in recent years on the topic has found quality of life has been rising.

He also said, in a video freely posted on social media to his thousands of followers, that the government stops people talking about immigration.

He also claimed that our towns are becoming less safe, and that this was at least in part as a result of immigration. Even though recent years has seen a decline in homicides (and related offences), in thefts and in drug offences.

His video just contained a succession of unsubstantiated and/or plainly innacurate claims and the fact that so many people, even numerous SF TDs and supporters who youd expect to be calling out the spreading of right wing falsehoods, are racing to defend him, is a sad indication of the direction of travel society is heading in. As is the fact that such plain falsehoods - first peddled by the far right - are repeated often enough online, they will eventually start to be repeated by more mainstream folk like Noone, and before you know it, twitter/gaaboard etc are filled with people blindly and stupidly accepting his/their anti-immigration falsehoods as "moderate enough and quite accurate".