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GAA Discussion / Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« on: October 09, 2019, 03:51:17 PM »
I seen a Tweet the other day along the lines of GAA players becoming more professional, GAA officials become more amatuerish.

Is there a toxic culture in Galway at a CB level? Why aren't capable people going for these roles?

Because for the most part county boards are drawing from a relatively small pool of people.
It can be tireless unrewarding work.
A lot of the time it's a case of picking the least worst from those individuals willing to show up.
Also there's little to nothing done in terms of targetting capable people for roles within the organisation.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« on: October 09, 2019, 03:35:30 PM »
Those Ed Sheeran figures are crazy.

Even if the top CB guys were hopelessly out of their depth, why wouldn't they engage with a commercial 3rd party to act on their behalf?.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a case of being too out of their depth to know they were out of their depth.

I know a lot of Galway's issues are related to previous incumbents but the current regime don't seem to be doing much of a job in terms of improving matters given the way the relationships with the main sponsors and management/potential management has been handled. I'm sure the last thing McDonagh wanted was to go public with matters.

You'd have thought priority number one for Galway GAA was keeping the lad who gave them €1.6 million over the last five years on-side and in the loop, especially given all the stuff related to the finances. As soon as the new regime took over they should have arranged a meeting with McDonagh and gone through what was done wrong previously and explain the steps being taken to sort things out going forward. It's hard enough to get sponsors on board, so you'd think some small amount of care would be taken with the relationship, especially given the ongoing issues.

In terms of transparency and openness, one simple small step they could take is to publish all the recent financial accounts on the Galway website and what they can of the various financial audit reports. I heard that some parts of the first report couldn't be published because of legal issues [which says a world about what the financial controls and records were like; basically they're pretty certain money went missing but their controls and records were so poor they can't legally pin responsibility on individuals] It would be a small step forward in terms of openness and signal a difference in approach instead of things being shrouded in rumour.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« on: October 08, 2019, 08:11:33 PM »
Heard primetime investagates are down in galway doing a program on Galway gaa.

Definitely someone should look at the Ed Sheeran concerts last year - Galway County Board only earned €76k from 2 sold-out concerts while Cork GAA netted around €1 million for 3 nights.

That's a difference of €38k versus €330k on a per-night basis.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2019 Football League
« on: October 04, 2019, 09:59:39 PM »
What's this about leaking schedules?  Does the gaa not officially publish this on a certain date? If so anyone know when that date is?

It's not really a leak - provisional schedules for the league are sent to all the county boards, to give the county board a chance to look and see if there is any issues for example moving some fixtures to allow double-headers with hurling and football. Then once the fixtures are confirmed, the official fixtures are relased to the public. Any of the fixtures released at the moment are only provisional and could be subject to change.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Underdogs- Tasty
« on: September 13, 2019, 06:00:18 PM »
Underdogs panel (30)

Aaron Duffy; Round Towers Lusk (Dublin)
Alan Daly; Donard/Glen GFC (Wicklow)
Anthony Darmody; Rathmore GAA (Kerry)
Anthony Hargan; St Mary’s Ardmore (Derry)
Aron McKenna; Madden Raperees GAC (Armagh)
Cathal McKenna; St Patrick’s Dromitee (Armagh)
Christopher Dineen; Castlerea St Kevin’s (Roscommon)
Cillian Stynes; St Peregrines (Dublin)
Cormac Curtis; Portarlington (Laois)
Craig Reilly; Trinity Gaels (Dublin)
Diarmuid O’Hagan; Éire Óg GAC (Armagh)
Eoin Devine; Newtownstewart St Eugene's (Tyrone)
Eoin O’Sullivan; Douglas (Cork)
Fergal Owens; Mayo Gaels (Mayo)
Fionn O’Leary; Skerries Harps (Dublin)
Israel Ilunga; Rosemount (Westmeath)
Jamie Conlon; St Patrick's Dromahair (Leitrim)
Jason Hickson; Annascaul (Kerry)
James Willis; St Brigid’s Killashee (Longford)
Jonathon O’Leary; Dr Crokes (Kerry)
Kyle Fitzmaurice; Ballymahon (Longford)
Leo Reilly; Donaghmore Ashbourne (Meath)
Mark O’Kane; John Mitchel’s GAC Glenullin (Derry)
Mikie Lyons; Caltra (Galway)
Noel Leech; St Joseph's (Laois)
Patrick Ó Domhnaill; CLG Oileáin Árann (Galway)
Séamus Mac Giolla Bhríghde; Na Gaeil Óga (Dublin)
Steafain Gallen; Castlederg St Eugene's (Tyrone)
Stephen Husband; Summerhill (Meath)
William Kerry; Castledermot (Kildare)

5 from Dublin,
3 from Kerry and Armagh,
2 from Tyrone, Meath, Longford, Laois, Galway, Derry
1 from Wicklow, Westmeath, Roscommon, Mayo, Leitrim, Kildare, Cork

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 13, 2019, 05:48:10 PM »
Dublin's U21/U20 Leinster football titles

1974
1975
1980
1984
2002
2003
2005
2009
2010
2012
2014
2015
2016
2017
2019

Don't hold out any hope of Leinster going to become significantly more competitive any time soon.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« on: August 29, 2019, 03:56:37 PM »
Kerry need to dominate midfield especially on their own kick outs. I have a feeling they will do okay on Dublin's restarts. If they can dominate mid field then they can either run at the Dubs with O'Brien or get quick direct ball into Clifford. On the face of it you would predict that with enough ball the Kerry forwards will hit say the 2-20 that Michael Murphy put forward as the target to beat the Dubs but the more I think about it I am not so sure.
I think the Dub full back line will hold up okay against Clifford and Geaney and I think the Dublin half back line could dominate the Kerry half forwards which will put more pressure on the Kerry midfield. While Tom O' Sullivan will give Kilkenny his fill I just don't see(outside of mid field domination) how Kerry will handle O' Callaghan, Mannion and Rock or the running of Scully and Howard. Then you have Costello and Connolly to bolster the troops if needed!!!
Hopefully it will be a tight game and Kerry certainly don't lack confidence to go toe to toe with the Dubs but I just think the Dubs find their rhythm early and win by 7 or 8!!

Dublin are going to put serious pressure on Ryan in goals and I think he's going to crack.
If you look at the periods where Dublin go to town and get a string of scores against teams, what's noticeable is the pressure they put on the opposition's kickouts.

What really surprised me in the Tyrone game was how little pressure Tyrone seemed to mange to put on Ryan's kickouts - I was expecting them to give him a far harder time. Based on the games I saw in the Super 8, it looked like a blatant weakness.

After goalkeeper I think this Kerry's teams biggest weakness is midfield as opposed to in the backs.
You take Moran out of midfield and the rest of the Kerry midfielders look more like Division 3/Division 4 quality.

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: August 29, 2019, 03:35:52 PM »
Is Peter Canavan considering another go at senior county management?

Wouldn't have thought so until the Tyrone job comes up. Has a great wee number at Sky and the odd coaching session at clubs around the country. Hard to beat.

I'd have thought he'd need to beef up his managerial credentials a bit more if he wanted the top job in Tyrone, given there's likely to be a fair number of lads interested in taking over.

At the moment I'd say he's far far likelier to be one of the management team than the top man when it comes to the Tyrone seniors.

There's also the issue of his son being on the panel, which is a potential sticky wicket.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 28, 2019, 04:12:51 PM »

That's fair enough and I accept that a lot of Dublin's success is down to hard graft and volunteer work.
I have said it any times her that I don't blame Dublin for taking all the money they can get and I don't begrudge them any amount of ALL Irelands either. They are playing the same system as every other county. That's human nature and Mayo/ Kerry/Donegal or whoever would do the very same if they got half a chance.
but it is up to the other county boards to make their feelings known as bitching on forums like this won't do anyone any good.
However, II have yet to hear a credible reason as to why Dublin gets c. €254 per registered player and, say, Kerry gets only €19. I don't blame Dublin for this but I do blame Kerry.
BTW, I will be rooting for Dublin in the final and so will most Mayo people I know.

Lar, I know you didn't come up with those figures, but they are just irrelevant. Again, I know it wasn't you, but whoever came up with that showed a complete ignorance of what games development funding is. Might as well divide by the number of buses in each county and see how that compares.

You need to divide by the number of primary school children, that's were the development funds are focused. Increasing participation.
Just saw this now.  Frankly, I don't see what anyone hopes to get from targeting the primary school kids.  What about Cumann na mBunscol and the work primary teachers did and, to some extent, are still doing for Gaelic games in every school in the county?
Given the structural flaws n the Dublin club model, the teachers over that last 100-ish years couldn't increase the numbers making the GAH their primary sports and no amount of GDO promotion ever will either.
I spent the three most productive decades of my working career plugging Gaelic games in Finglas West and if I were able to do it all over again I doubt if I could increase the number of boys who decided to make Gaelic games their first priority because of my efforts.
BTW even one would beat my best to date and the same can be said for any of my former colleagues.
Yep, 100% agree.
Participation in Dublin in GAA isn't great, it has improved in some areas and whether that has anything to do with GDOs is a matter of opinion, some are good and some are useless. And it does seem like a lost cause in some areas, like, as you say, parts of Finglas.

John Costello in last year's annual report "Our Go Games programme alone, over the last 10 years, has seen a participation growth of 58 per cent in football and 98 per cent in hurling and 11,500 fixtures scheduled annually for children in the Under 8 to Under-12 age groups."


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Not really impressed by either team.
In the first half you'd swear Kerry had never seen Tyrone play.
I think the jury is still out in terms of Keane as a senior manager - Kerry were fortunate they were still in the game when he made the changes.
Can see Dublin winning by 10+
I thought Deegan had a reasonable enough game. Definitely wasn't a factor in who won/lost imo.
For me the big thing for Tyrone was the amount of times Tyrone got posession in towards goal in the first half but failed to create a goal chance was way too high.
Also I thought the camerawork was beyond awful - the amount of crowd shots,shots of the sideline and replays of efforts shown while play was going on was beyond belief.
If I were head of GAA I'd be complaining to RTE it was so bad.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 10, 2019, 07:38:49 PM »
Kilkenny won 7 titles in 8 years (took a two year break and then won another three in a row) and people didn't complain in the hurling world. Lets get realistic - Mayo spend nearly as much on county teams as Dublin do but don't have a serious hurling team to pay for.

See that's a load of crap. The reason Mayo spend more is they play more games through back door, have to travel to New York or London and have mileage to pay players as they don't all study or work in Mayo. The reality is Dublin spend more as a County Board than any other county at a proportionally higher level.

The reason no one complained about Kilkenny was because hurling people felt it was a relatively even playing field - they weren't getting multiples more funding than other counties, a serious chunk of their players were travelling hours to and from training, they weren't playing the overwhelming majority of their games at home, they didn't have an overwhelming population advantage.

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Minor/U17 Football championship 2019
« on: August 10, 2019, 06:51:09 PM »
All over. That looked a bad decision by the ref, back looked to be outside the 20 when he picked up the kick out?
did it go 14 yards or whatever that rule is

I thought the rule now was outside the 20?
still has to travel the 14 yards ref blew for it earlier in game also

13 metres is the distance it has to travel.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: August 03, 2019, 10:07:49 PM »
Yeah it’ll need a few more players of a top quality to stay up as well as few other improvements. I just wonder if a huge effort to stay in div 1 works against us in the summer.

A fair bit depends on what way the Leinster Championship draw shakes out for Meath - would be a massive help to them next season if they could get a favourable Leinster Championship draw after their first Division 1 campaign in a long-while.
Assuming their is no change to the Leinster championship, they will be entering the Leinster championship at the quarter-final stage and will avoid the preliminary round as one of the 4 semi-finalists this year along with Dublin, Kildare, Laois.
Carlow, Longford, Louth, Offaly, Westmeath, Wexford, Wicklow are the 7 teams they can face in the quarter-final.
Even if things go wrong for them in the league and they get relegated, knowing that they will be playing one of those 7 to start of their championship isn't exactly the worst scenario.
They have a 1 in 3 chance of being on the same side as Dublin which would mean playing them in a Leinster semi-final as opposed to a Leinster final.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 24, 2019, 04:11:14 PM »
There will be 1,000 at most in Páirc Uí Rinn, 16k in Omagh, 10 or 12k on the green grassy slopes and 29k in McHale.

You think only 999 will travel from Ros?  ;)


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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 23, 2019, 07:48:47 PM »
The most important thing at this stage is the trend in attendance figures

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gate-receipts-and-attendances-for-football-championship-slid-alarmingly-in-2018-despite-the-introduction-of-the-super-8s-37788169.html

"Attendances figures for the All-Ireland football championship dropped by nearly a fifth last year resulting in a twenty three percent reduction in gate receipts, even though there were six more games played.Overall, the average attendances figures at the 39 games in the All-Ireland series – which includes the qualifiers, the Super 8s and the All-Ireland semi-final and final – was 13,225.
In 2017 when there were 33 games played in the football series the average attendance was 19,049."

If this continues change is more likely 
You can't fool all of the culchies all of the time

The quarter-finals in 2017 were 5 games (due to the Mayo-Roscommon replay)and the total attendance was 186,900 - average attendance of 37,380

The quarter-finals in 2018 was 12 games and the total attendance was 217,824 - average attendance of 18,152

So far this year in the 8 games the attendance has been 176,541 - average attendance of 29,423

Only need 41,283 in the final ground of games to match last year's quarter-finals number.
Hard not to see that being beaten.

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