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Can anyone cite an example of a large project in Ireland thats been a resounding success?

M50?

At certain times of the day it's a great road. The problem is, those certain times are narrow windows that most people don't use.

The M50 is no different from any other major city ringroad fed by tributaries. Great off peak and a nightmare at peak times.

Seems to have got good reviews which is a good sign as I'd say reviewers were primed to give it a kicking.

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I have been following The Rest is Classified, about 'the secretive world of spies, espionage, and covert operations. Hosted by former CIA analyst turned spy novelist, David McCloskey, and veteran security correspondent, Gordon Corera.'  Excellent stuff. There's another top notch BBC produced one (a dramatised podcast) on the CIA, Central Intelligence, has ED Harris narrating the Allen Dulles character. Good to combine both, one of the BBC's episodes gives account of the bizarre attempts to engineer  a coup in Albania ousting Hoxha in post WW2, all attempts failed miserably, Kim Philby's fingerprints were all over the betrayal of the plans.

Cheers for that. I've read a couple of his books and have been meaning to listen to these podcasts.

For you chaps of a certain age there's a decent set by Shed Seven hidden away in the iPlayer. No word of Kneecap. The editors must be busy.

When will  they be in iPlayer?

I have a feeling the  BBC won't show them on it

If they do it will no doubt be heavily edited to show the songs and none of the anti-Starmer chants etc.

Time for Antrim to source both hurling and football managers from within the county. Stop the men coming in with no passion for the county and collection the brown envelope at the end of each month. We need passionate Antrim men involved with both codes at the top. Yes they need their expenses of some incentive to take the team but ultimately not money driven. It happens at club level too and does my head in. Rant over

If the expensive men from down the country don't make a step change in performance then we're no worse off with local men who will be in it for the right reasons and it will be their pinnacle rather than a stepping stone.

The Glasto thread high water mark was for Bruce in 2009. What a show and this thing was heaving.

But the 1975 are meant to be for us the lead singer is 36... he's trying to be a rock n roll singer but his voice sounds like he was booted out of Maroon 5!

Enjoyed a couple of other sets CMAT was good craic, Biffy were decent, the wife made me watch Self Esteem which was surprisingly good. The kids were watching Gracie Abram's and she was very good as well!

I saw Self Esteem on the red button and thought she was good. We are currently trying watching 2024 highlights!

Biffy Clyro were good when they got going. 1975 really not for me.

Christ these are bad!

The young ones have made me turn over to some Four Tet fella.

Simon Neil's vocals are all over the gaff on That Golden Rule 

Tony with two anti Scottish posts in a row lads, best to ignore from now on 😜

Ps I don't care what lead singers name is, he's biffy clyro to me 😋

Where's that **** Marty Pellow for the hat trick?

Oul Biffy has warmed the pipes now.

Simon Neil's vocals are all over the gaff on That Golden Rule 

Youse are easily pleased lads.

Fallow year next year

Have had it on wfh this afternoon...Jalen Ngonda, CMAT, Inhaler...all decent performances.

But not much really catching my attention this year, don't think there is anyone on the Pyramid stage all weekend that I'd really want to see, maybe Biffy Clyro

Aye Biffy Clyro will be worth a go.

f**k sake they must be due a fallow year if that's the best they have this year.

Plus the cost of land will have increased again as will the construction costs. After this and depending on NIs funding from London it's very likely there will not be the funding available to build the road.

I agree with many of your points, but the increased land and construction costs is a bit of a Red herring. Construction costs increase mainly because of inflation. As inflation rises, so do wages, government tax receipts etc. It may not all happen in lockstep but eventually equiliberium is reached. In other words the standard of living doesnt change that much over the course of a few years.

This road will be built because the business/human justifications are overwhelming. It's very sad that a few people (with less than stellar motives) are holding this up. I agree that the DFI should shoulder a lot of the blame here, but the objections dont seem anywhere near solid enough to justify the delays (and those objections will be overcome), so a significant part of the blame must also fall on the people making those objections.

As others have stated their objections on paper are merely loopholes they have identified to support their real reasons. These lads don't give a shit about climate change or human rights associated with the duration of the project. They object because they'll potentially lose land and/or money and its part of a big road to Dublin - unfortunately for them the real reasons aren't enough to delay.