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General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
« on: Today at 11:23:59 AM »

General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
« on: March 24, 2019, 06:31:12 PM »
Was leaving the kids like that a more common thing years ago? I've heard a few people of my parents generation say they would have done it too.

Not in a foreign country while you are getting drunk up the road. I would say it is bordering on extreme negligence. I have very little doubt those kids were not full of calpol or something similar to keep them asleep.

I could laugh at the Portuguese journalist giving off about the state of the crime scene. 'What is the first thing you do when your child is kidnapped - prrserve the scene'. No its not, or I imagine it wouldnt be anyway. I always thought they had something to do with it but after watching it I would be more inclined to believe she was taken.
Haven't seen it yet but if it was my wain I'd rather they were confirmed dead than the potential alternatives.

General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: March 24, 2019, 06:29:53 PM »
Is this Netflix as good as they say? It seems to be where the most talked about programmes are.

How much is it per month?
Come on lad it's not 2013.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 22, 2019, 11:58:02 PM »
Terrible thing to go through at that age. Whilst a powerful image IMO taking photos at funerals is very distasteful.

I remember being at a funeral of a young girl a few years ago where the Belfast Telegraph reporter took out her phone and recorded the priests homily, despite being told to get out they proceeded to photograph the coffin leaving the chapel.

What a crowd of cnuts. Should have took her phone home in pieces.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 22, 2019, 10:41:35 PM »
Terrible thing to go through at that age. Whilst a powerful image IMO taking photos at funerals is very distasteful.

General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
« on: March 21, 2019, 04:22:43 PM »
Going to watch the first few eps of this tonight - been reading the comments here on it, don't see much mention of the Irish family, the Smiths, presumably they don't appear? Have they ever spoke in public afterwards on this ?

Have watched 5 episodes I think. They are mentioned a few times - the first where the father said he realised Gerry McCann was the person he saw carrying the child on the night of the abduction (which became clear to him when he say Gerry McCann carrying one of the younger kids off the plane on their return to the UK), and the next mentioned was where he had retracted his story.

Think it says there are multiple witnesses putting Gerry McCann at the Tapas bar at the same time as Martin Smith said he saw Gerry McCann carrying the child.
It's a bold statement to make and then retract.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 21, 2019, 01:41:28 PM »
Holy fcuk lads,  would some of you wise to fcuk up...there are 3 dead darlings barely cold and you're having debates about blame and the like?  Honestly take a huge look at yourselves.  There is a pretty widespread Tyrone membership on here.  I am sure there are connections to people involved.  Temper things and let the dust settle.  There are no answers to this at this stage and some of you should get the fcuk off your high horses and have respect


Well said BCB1

agree 100%.
Giving this a +1. If a lot of this dung keeps up the OP would be as well to lock the thread.

General discussion / Re: Alan Partridge - aha
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:27:49 PM »
The CPR scene with the sex doll last nite had me in stitches
If you look carefully you'll see the sex doll has a finger sticking up. Not sure where Alan has been putting that  :o

Martin Brennan was a class character. I think there is mileage in him in future.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:21:13 PM »
Seriously, lads.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 08:37:33 AM »
I won't pretend to know anything about the legalities of it all, but I do know that current setup in terms of layout of the Greenvale has been like that for quite a few years. I would imagine this had to have been passed by building control and assessed by the council for health and safety. So if the council had given it the seal of approval, the establishment is probably in the clear legally from that point of view.

How things were handled on the night when the situation started is different and without knowing what anyone did or didn't do, guessing is not helpful.

 LotsI did hear today from a teacher in one of the schools that the event didn't start until 9.30. Buses however were dropping kids off from before 8. of them with alcohol. So they were perhaps in the car park for 1-2 hours before the incident happened and some at least were drinking. I'm not sure what onus is on the hotel to cater for or be responsible for supervising that. Perhaps they are responsible for managing that? I have no idea.

As for the two arrests, I would think this would be standard practice for something like this would it not? Just to give the authorities the mechanism for asking the questions and proper grounds for prosecution if deemed necessary.

To really make things worse, some very worrying news in the Dungannon area tonight. If anyone is from the area or has children in any way linked to the schools or the events of the weekend, please keep a very close eye on them. There are some very distressed children at the moment and children in distress can make some very rash decisions.

The organisers of the event were responsible for the wellbeing of those that attended - regardless of starting time. The owner of the property is responsible as well, for the wellbeing of people on his property, even if he was not the prime organiser of the event? This was a terrible thing to happen but it wasn't an accident. It was gross negligence. That some kids were drinking has nothing got to do with it.

Kid drinking would have a lot to do with it.  Gross negligence may be the cause or may not, but its as likely that the cause was those who were pushing the crowd forward for what they probably thought was a bit of craic.

There's alot of nervous teenagers knowing full well what they did, waiting on a knock on the door.

Thats the exact reason why many kids wont come forward with evidence or wont meet up with the police.

It wasnt just 10 or 15 kids pushing - the number was significantly higher
If you have crowd control you reduce the risk of shoving turning into a tragedy. I'll reiterate my earlier point - the purpose of "bouncers" is not to act like a hard man, which seems to be the prevailing attitide, but to act as security to ensure the safety of everyone. It is the owner's responsibility to ensure it is done properly.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 19, 2019, 08:05:29 PM »
What is corporate manslaughter?

Is the offence when an organisation has grossly breached their duty of care resulting in the death of an individual or individuals.

Does this mean the organisation gets the penalty rather that the individuals/corporate officers?
I can't recall the specifics from training at work and the legal lads here will know, but I think the organisation get the corporate manslaughter rap for gross breach of a duty of care and senior management may get a gross negligence rap if their practices led to the breach. Our place do a lot of awareness training on this to scare the shite out of people!

General discussion / Re: Movie reccomendations
« on: March 19, 2019, 07:40:12 PM »
Triple Frontier, 90 minutes of my life Iíll never get back, absolutely brutal film, one of the worst Iíve ever seen

Was expecting much better myself.

Hard to argue with this.
I thought it was alright but I seem to have watched it with lower expectations than you lads. It's a Ben Affleck flick on Netflix so how good did you think it would be?!

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 19, 2019, 06:48:19 PM »
Not surprised. Didn't think it would happen as quickly, so I would assume the cctv is fairly damning on top of witness accounts.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 18, 2019, 09:48:47 PM »
Fair enough tbrick I took it down. It's still what I believe but probably a bit soon.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 18, 2019, 08:24:03 PM »
Mickey McElhatton the owner is a good man. I appreciate that emotions are high and very very raw but itís important to let the police do their job.
Saw him earlier. Seems understandably cut up about it. Yes the peelers need to get to the bottom of it.

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