By Sid's logic Mandela was a bloodthirsty psychopath because his terrorist grouping waged a 30 year violent campaign that cost hundreds of civilian lives.
But the ANC did not mount a sustained 28 year campaign of murder like the IRA, there were occasional isolated events
The ANC won by peaceful means, they had mass support, they continually mobilised mass peaceful resistance and continually drew international attention to their cause, and eventually apartheid collapsed because of its inherent absurdity
Also the apartheid system was a much more evil foe than that faced by Catholic civilians in Northern Ireland in 1968, awful as it was
Aye the Belfast pogroms weren't that bad rite enuf ...the street was a mass of brain matter and blood... bit of a mad one to wrap the head around
The apartheid system was a much more evil foe than the NI system
That isn't to say that the NI system wasn't terrible because it obviously was
But proper historical context is important and Irish nationalists tend not to understand that, or deliberately dismiss it - the title of "most oppressed people ever" is important to them
Maintaining that Irish Catholics were as oppressed as the blacks in South Africa or chattel slaves in America or indeed the Jews in Nazi Germany is unfortunately a commonly enough expressed point of view in these sorts of discussions and it displays a profoundly ignorant reading of history, again it's fake history
So common it has only been stated by you to downplay the plight of nationalists in the 6co's
You're the only one putting forward a hierarchy of suffering
Suppose pogroms were only perpetrated against Jews, apartheid against South Africans, what then would you classify the treatment of nationalists in the 6co's?
Just good old fashioned wholesome discrimination with a sprinkling of bullets?
Pacify yourself and it'll all be grand, sit there until International Rescue come flying in over the Black Mountain?
Is this the ending you were alluding to when you said 30 years of mass peaceful protest would inevitably have led to the disbanding of the RUC following pressure from the international community?