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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 16, 2019, 08:17:02 AM »
Fixtures /CCC meeting last night with clubs proposal some major changes to league and championship structures.
1. Div 1 = SFC , DiV 2 = IFC   DiV 3 = JFC
relegation play offs for losing teams in championship
Losing club relegated.  League football  no bearing on outcome

And / or
Div 2 / 3 winners promoted
Runners up playoff with 2nd bottom team

Proposals to be discussed at next county committee meeting

My only thing being that i think the championship winner should get promotion so the following year they are playing a grade up. ie if you win JFC you also get promotion to Div 2, if its the same team that win the league then the next team down gets promotion also.

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Not every manager is shouting against trying the new rules..

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/294047

Limerick football manager Billy Lee believes the proposed rule changes ďdeserve a chanceĒ.

While most other managers seem to be slamming the latest collection of experimental rules, Lee offered some support following his sideís McGrath Cup semi-final defeat to Cork:

ďI think they are worth looking at. I know a lot of people are anti these experimental rules, but it depends on the style of football your team play. If you play a running game, you are going to be against them,Ē he told The Irish Examiner.

ďAgainst Cork, we didnít see any black cards. The kick-out is only being taken seven metres further out and how many sideline kicks would you normally have in a game? The three-handpass rule, Iíve no problem with that.

ďThese rules deserve a chance. At least we are trying to improve the quality of the product. Every manager is going to worry about his own county and thatís absolutely right. I havenít heard the referees giving out about anything and yet I see a lot of people talking about referees. Letís see how the rules unfold over a period of time.Ē

Managers opinions shouldn't be considered*


*except those that agree with the new rules

No thats not the point, the point is that maybe not all managers are against them. I still don't think it should be their decision as they have a vested interest.

Surely we all have a vested interest in our sport?

To just discount managers opinions is completely ridiculous.
Certainly they have to be balanced alongside players / supporters etc, but they have a valuable input to give.
They will be the ones devising game plans to fully exploit or nullify the effects of any rule change so their views are key in getting something workable

I am not getting paid for results in the GAA while managers are. The majority of them are concerned that the new rules will put their game plans back and are not overly concerned with the state of the game for the supporter. Thats what I think and god help me Martin Brehony agrees with me...

Beware of the propaganda war
We are being openly bombarded by claims that limiting the handpass to three as part of the experimental rules is reducing goal chances.

Tales of flowing moves taking players into goal-scoring areas, only to be thwarted by not being allowed a fourth or fifth handpass are being peddled so loudly that those of a suspicious disposition might get the whiff of collusion.

After all, if the new rules can be portrayed as evil goal-killers, it will greatly strengthen the case for those who want them scrapped before the start of the Allianz League.

Hopefully, the transparent stunt will be seen for what it really is: an attempt to spark a panic reaction based on a small number of games with below-strength teams.

If the handpass experiment is to be meaningful, it must be retained for the 116-match league programme, after which a fully informed  analysis of its impact can be made. This is no time to bow to managers and their vested interests.

Eh?! The media, propaganda, inter county managers ! The bit in bold, it's the ordinary everyday supporter on here making up his or her mind on what they have seen to date, you know thinking for themselves. The 3 handpass rule is a complete an utter hames. There is not a hope in hell of it being retained for the league.

we hope thats the case, the way things are going i wouldnt be surprised

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: January 09, 2019, 11:49:08 AM »
Anyone watch Sunderland Til I did? Behind the scenes from last season when they got relegated to league 1.

yeah, really enjoyed it, was pretty raw and was fascinating seeing the goings on at a dysfunctional club, found it a better watch than the Man City one although Pep gave more access to the dressing room etc than the Sunderland managers did.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: January 08, 2019, 10:57:18 AM »
Surely weíd be better buying a lower league English conference team, send young players down there and also a project to start getting up the leagues and sure ya never know what could happen ???

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Okay, one step at a time I guess... explain how the handpass rule discourages Donegal from "sitting deep"?

Exactly, it doesnít, it actively encourages it, as you know if you mark the space that at some stage theyíre gonna have to kick the ball therefore giving a chance for an interception. Surely thatís quite obvious, the hand pass rule 100% favours the defending team.

Was listening to talk sport this morning and big Sam was on and he made a good point regards soccer at the minute, he said everyone thinks thereís only one way to play and thatís the Man City Liverpool way.he said it was dangerous in that you need to play to your strengths, the problem with Gaelic football is that everyone took the Jim mcguiness Donegal model which took at the time an unfancied team to all Ireland. I think it takes different styles, like soccer itíll go full circle, we canít just change rules because we want football played a certain way, managers will always set their game plan to utilise their players to the rules

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surely these rules will get canned before the league, no way can they plough on with them

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: January 03, 2019, 04:48:32 PM »
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/11598043/jermain-defoe-to-join-rangers-on-18-month-loan-deal

Some signing for the Gers.

Rodgers may put the foot down with the Celtic Board now. They were outclassed last week. Defoe, albeit 36 years old will be lethal in the SPL!

Defoe is on nearly 100k a week at Bournemouth, even if they pay half his wages thatís out of their price range, clearly no lessons learned in govan, also smells like moreles must be going

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: December 30, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »
Just finished season one of sneaky Pete on amazon prime, quite enjoyable, the main character in it is quite good and the story line decent. Thereís a second season but dunno if itíll be anywhere near as good but Iíll prob give it a go anyway

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 30, 2018, 10:37:06 AM »
What Tyrone done to Kerry in the semi final 2003 Rangers done to Celtic today. They absolutely hounded Celtic and hunted in packs. No one had time on the ball. One nil defeat flattered Celtic, if it wasn't for the keeper it could have easy have been a 3 0 hammering. The only thing for Rangers is they absolutely emptied the tank today and it's very hard to replicate that.

Exactly, they played their max, we were almost at our worst. Celtic are still top with a game in hand. Time off is well needed. Only positive is, BR no longer has that unbeaten tag against them to weigh us down. Similar to when the invincibles eventually were beaten, it was almost a relief.

Agreed, in the law of averages you have to lose sometime, we just werenít at the races today, rangers by far the better team but some of the players needed that kick, for too long weíve just turned up against rangers and rolled them over, defeat is a great motivator. Listen, top of the league headed into the winter break with a game in hand, league cup in the bag l, European football after Christmas and a Scottish cup to go for. Still a lot to get going for

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: December 21, 2018, 09:18:28 PM »
Just finished the Sunderland series on Netflix, enjoyed it more than the Man City one was good seeing a club and their problems, the jack rodwell fiasco just showed how crazy the contracts handed out when they were a premiership club. Players also spoke pretty honestly at times

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 16, 2018, 05:23:01 PM »
Terrible today, BR has to take a lot of blame for the tactics both goals came from long diagonal balls into the space the full back should be in, so much space it was laughable. Fair enough we had a lot of players out but the team were so so poor in every department, really need to sort something in January a few rabbits need pulled out of hats

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 14, 2018, 03:24:36 PM »
I think the way it will work will mean we are at home first leg aren't we?

Last night the atmosphere wasnt its usual electric parkhead European night, id say it was nerves. We did need brown on at HT but i think bringing Sinclair off was a mistake, prob should have hooked Rogic he was poor and at least sinclair is an out ball with his pace.

Gordon was awful, pulled off oe class save but his distribution is so bad it isn't even funny, needs addressed, we will get nowhere in europe when your keeper is one of your weak links, personally id be ringing Sean Dyche and seeing which of his 3 england keepers aren't even making the bench

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 09, 2018, 12:24:54 PM »
Yip, you'll pick up two tickets together for that no problem.

What do you men think of the possibility of Celtic refusing tickets for Sevco game in Govamaina? The two options is take them and send 800 supporters and hope the Police and Stewards can guarantee their safety or refuse to take their ticket allocation due to safety reasons...

Or i suppose do Celtic leave it up to the supporters to decide?

Celtic yesterday in the first half were excellent...Kilmarnock didn't know what way to turn they were under that much pressure, as good a performance as i've seen in a while. I just love the way Celtic respond when a team puts it up to them they just seem to move up a gear or two and steamroll (domestically) whoever is put in front of them...Was just looking at the fixtures there and Celtic are away to Hibs, Aberdeen and Huns all this month...big month Dec.

I was thinking about the ticket situation, i actually go against the grain, we should say thanks but no thanks, dont take the tickets, we will see a real shit storm in the media, Celtic come out and say it isn't safe for us to put 800 Fans in there where they have decides to put us (which it isn't) and stick to our guns, we will get the full allocation back. by taking the 800 it sets a precedent.

Played well yesterday, we are ticking along well, liked BR comments on not changing the team just because players are back from injury, basically saying this is our 11 at the minute until someone else grabs their chance. Looking forward to going to the game on Thurs, atmosphere should be electric and hopefully enough to get us over the line

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 05, 2018, 04:34:20 PM »
Finally Celtic are getting a bit of competition for the league but how much is it really? We'll find out in good time, for the last number of years anytime a team thought they're genuine contenders Celtic put them in their box. We have picked our performances up recentluy and are def playing better than we did at the start of the year, all being well no more points dropped and go to the Cesspit at the year and beat them again. Slippy G has improved them a bit no doubt on that but they don't have the quality we have and we should beat them again.

I didn't get to see the Cup Final on Sunday due to a funeral (which i had a ticket for the game but couldn't go...ripping) but Rodgers will be pushing for the treble treble which has never been done and will go down in the history books for many a year. Will be tough but January transfers will play a big part in this...fingers crossed.

Who would be on your shopping list?  The Liverpool-Rangers scum-alliance will no doubt mean a few more rejects get off-loaded North of the border to the huns as well.

Celtic are a very difficult club to pick players for...People will argue this next point but we can't affored top quality players, we seem to be in the market for up and coming players to develop and sell on (i'm guessing that's the carrot Celtic dangle in front of them to sign). The top players in Scotland are usually at Celtic and if not they're not good enough to be there, there are we gems out there but it's getting harder and harder to find them. I just hope Celtic have been working on their potential targets from Sept and get it done early...

Listening to Rodgers after the cup final, i think he has a few nearly ready to sign and is hopeful to have them away on the winter break camp to bed in, thats how we should be operating, another Benkovic type, i think a Roberts like loan like the first time where we take him in Jan bed him in and he hits the ground the following season, no point in a Jan to end of season loan for a club like us unless its an opportunity too good to turn down like Bellamy or Robbie Keane.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: December 02, 2018, 12:14:25 PM »
Enjoyed the fight, Fury done what Fury does, dodges and counters, hes class at it, not everyones cup of team but how someone at that size, weight and build can make themselves so hard to hit is impressive, the thing about heavyweight boxing is it can just take that one shot and Wilder landed it, how Fury got up is a real credit to him just shows that although his main attribute is not getting hit he can also take the shots when they land. Im actually gutted for Fury because to all who have an idea on boxing he won that fight, i think it was Mayweather said one time, theres more to boxing than throwing punches. I like Wilder but you could tell how frustrated he was at not being able to hit fury in the opening rounds, he didint really know how to react, when they do face off again i would like to think that it'll be a different fight, Wilder will have the experience of 12 rounds with Fury and will have a better idea of how to fight, in saying that id love it to be in a big stadium in England and Fury to win.

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