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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 09:00:15 AM »
Good response to going a goal down.

AWB is still so nave,  how many times did he get caught on the wrong side or got played around with a simple inside pass.
Better teams will exploit that and yes the CB's were at fault for the goal, but he was looking across the play and should have been able to either step up or snuff out the pass. I was in disbelief when the co-commentator said he was having an excellent season.

Outside of that some good positives and on to the next one.

AWB hasn't been great for a while and desperately needs more time on the training pitch, great to get the win but it was far from convincing. Pogba reinforcing the view he's a joke, all the ability in the world as last night showed but continued to go through the motions for his 4 seasons at OT.

Martial/Greenwood again were poor, Greenwood in particular is so low on confidence; He desperately needs a goal. I think we'll get punished sooner rather then later in these games we're only winning by a goal unless we start winning games more comfortably. 10 wins and 3 draws from the last 13 league games is some record and something nobody seen coming, lets hope it continues.


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 08:53:33 AM »
Don't know how anyone can say it was lucky we didn't sign Haaland. The lad is phenomenal, a special talent. The only clubs a special player leaves United for is Barca/ Real and their both very skint.

Getting him for 17m last January is one of the best buys of the last 10 years, giving him a new contract would soon get rid of the clause.

A huge opportunity missed for United.

Think you are miles off on this Maroon, the whole point of the release clause was to leave Raiolo in charge further down the line. Haaland wouldn't sign a new contract? A club spends a year or two developing to the point where hes a 100m+ asset and have to sell him for 50m or whatever the release clause is, guess where the rest of the moneys going? Raiolo of course.

You could argue that United would have the benefit of the couple of years he spent at the club but the day United get involved in a deal like that is the day they may give up. It probably suits Dortmund but if Haaland was really available for a straight forward 17m at the time every giant club in Europe would have been in the hunt

I can see those points but not every player is like Pogba who's going to let his agent cause mayhem, imagine Haaland was upfront in this United team. Realistically if he had come to United they would have to have given the agent and probably Haaland snr a fee for taking renegotiating the contract and taking out the clause but how much is he going to cost United a fortune if they want him in the next 18 months; The buyout clause is apparently 75m euros and probably cost another 20m euros in agents fees etc.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:06:24 PM »
I've watched nearly every Chelsea game since they played Wolves, they've had 2 wins since and in both games West Ham & Fulham were very unlucky. 7 points from the last 8 games with arguably the strongest squad in the league and under zero pressure from TV & Radio pundits, never seen anything like.

They are literally writing his obituaries?

Nobody on Sky/BT/BBC has even questioned him.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 20, 2021, 03:26:54 PM »
You can't have it both ways. Raiola is a parasite and his bulshit is too much of a distraction, hence why Pogba needs to go.

No doubt Haaland would be great signing and improve the first 11 but at what cost? It would be the same shit every transfer window.

You're assuming every player is like Pogba, Haaland hasn't caused Dortmund any problems since he signed. The agent is a parasite but so is Pogba and thats the big issue United have.

Haaland is different and knows how to behave, luckily has his dad in his ear which will make a difference.


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 20, 2021, 02:19:37 PM »
Don't know how anyone can say it was lucky we didn't sign Haaland. The lad is phenomenal, a special talent. The only clubs a special player leaves United for is Barca/ Real and their both very skint.

Getting him for 17m last January is one of the best buys of the last 10 years, giving him a new contract would soon get rid of the clause.

A huge opportunity missed for United.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 20, 2021, 12:48:56 PM »
Dodged one on Sancho I reckon. No where near the quality for the valuation and looking like a full season without gates receipts etc... due to covid so Id say luck rather than good business

Yeah Ive watched a number of games with him, average, Haaland though is top drawer

Yep and I think Ole knew it too long before the rest. We all know the problem there and I'd say no point having him if it comes with that other parasite.

I'd be seeing what Diallo is like in the background before even contemplating a move for Sancho again; and at least 30 million below what Dortmund wanted.

Dortmund seem to be trying to flog Sancho now judging by their latest comments

Haaland is something else, United were linked with him before he made the move to Salzburg and then again in summer 2019 after 6 months there. United have really slipped up not buying him long before he went to Dortmund. As for Sancho I think its going to depend in Diallo and I don't trust the owners; Ole wasn't backed anywhere near he should have been last summer and if United can finish top 4 with a bit to spare I'd have reservations whether they'll spend big this summer.

Would agree but if the rumours about Haaland only signing if a release clause was included are true, then Utd were completely right to avoid him. His agent is a complete parasite of the highest order

Can understand that point but getting him a player as good as him for 17m is the best bit of business any team has done in a long time. Form their point of view I can see why they want to Dortmund, it was the right path for him before going to one of the real big boys. Dortmund will need to sell one of Sancho or Haaland this summer and its apparent its Sancho given his contract situation. The issue is whether anyone will pay what their looking for, I'm not so sure; You've got the like of Neymar & Mbappe who've both less then 18 months left on their deals so could be a lot of big players moving in the next few years.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 20, 2021, 12:09:34 PM »
Dodged one on Sancho I reckon. No where near the quality for the valuation and looking like a full season without gates receipts etc... due to covid so Id say luck rather than good business

Yeah Ive watched a number of games with him, average, Haaland though is top drawer

Yep and I think Ole knew it too long before the rest. We all know the problem there and I'd say no point having him if it comes with that other parasite.

I'd be seeing what Diallo is like in the background before even contemplating a move for Sancho again; and at least 30 million below what Dortmund wanted.

Dortmund seem to be trying to flog Sancho now judging by their latest comments

Haaland is something else, United were linked with him before he made the move to Salzburg and then again in summer 2019 after 6 months there. United have really slipped up not buying him long before he went to Dortmund. As for Sancho I think its going to depend in Diallo and I don't trust the owners; Ole wasn't backed anywhere near he should have been last summer and if United can finish top 4 with a bit to spare I'd have reservations whether they'll spend big this summer.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: January 20, 2021, 08:32:49 AM »
I've watched nearly every Chelsea game since they played Wolves, they've had 2 wins since and in both games West Ham & Fulham were very unlucky. 7 points from the last 8 games with arguably the strongest squad in the league and under zero pressure from TV & Radio pundits, never seen anything like.

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General discussion / Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
« on: January 19, 2021, 02:42:26 PM »
Good job Saka & Smith Rowe have arrived on the scene otherwise Arsneal would be in huge trouble. They've given Arsenal some hope for the future along with Martinelli.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 19, 2021, 02:40:18 PM »
Would imagine Matic, Cavani, Bailly & Telles will start on Wednesday. Ole mustn't think too much of VDB, you'd think a player of his calibre would be a definite starter against a team in the bottom 3 but I'm not expecting him to start.

Getting back to Fernandes its clear United have an issue against the so called top 6, 1 goal from a pen against them this season shows there's a a team issue. I watched Neville talk last night about how Liverpool & City are constantly inching up the pitch when their opponents have the ball which is something United don't do, United just don't have enough possession in good areas to break these teams down.

I'm dubious whether United will have time to work on it training given the hectic schedule so think its likely we'll see a few more 0-0 in big games before the end of the season.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 18, 2021, 02:47:19 PM »
Could see why yesterday given how high up the pitch Liverpool play but his from is worrying.

Shaw is improving going forward, it was his cross for Maguire's disallowed goal and also for Fernandes chance yesterday. He has good dribbling ability so would like to see more of it, Fred and McTominay been braver on the ball in these types of games will help Shaw too.

Fred, Bailly, Shaw & Lindelof have been hammered by fans so Ole deserves plenty of credit for the way he's managing to get performances out of them, whether United will win a league under Ole I don't know and still have a few doubts but he deserves more credit then he's getting for the way he's managed to turn it round so far, there's still a long way to go but United certainly don't look as brittle as they did. Since Fernandes came in United have 69 points from 32 league games whilst it was 42 from the previous 32 league games; Thats some improvement.

I could be wrong but I think I read that since he came in a year ago Utd have scored more points than any other team in the league?

I know United have a good few more points then Liverpool since Fernandes came in, think they might have a few more points then City but United might have played a game more.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 18, 2021, 02:43:14 PM »
Could see why yesterday given how high up the pitch Liverpool play but his from is worrying.

Shaw is improving going forward, it was his cross for Maguire's disallowed goal and also for Fernandes chance yesterday. He has good dribbling ability so would like to see more of it, Fred and McTominay been braver on the ball in these types of games will help Shaw too.

Fred, Bailly, Shaw & Lindelof have been hammered by fans so Ole deserves plenty of credit for the way he's managing to get performances out of them, whether United will win a league under Ole I don't know and still have a few doubts but he deserves more credit then he's getting for the way he's managed to turn it round so far, there's still a long way to go but United certainly don't look as brittle as they did. Since Fernandes came in United have 69 points from 32 league games whilst it was 42 from the previous 32 league games; Thats some improvement.

I saw on twitter somewhere that in the corresponding game last season (almost exactly 12 months to the day) Liverpool easily beat United to go 30 points ahead of them so its a bit surreal today to be seeing moans about not beating Liverpool yesterday.  Like yourself I'm not entirely convinced Ole is the elite coach to go the final step to winning a league but if not whoever might replace him will find a club in a lot ruder health than recently.

As Bertie once said a lot done, more to do......

We'll know a bit more about Ole come the end of the season, think the next step is for United to take more chances against better opposition and think that is going to be difficult with Lindelof at centre half; Like most reds I want to see Bailly partner Maguire. None of Arsenal, Chelsea, City & Spurs will not come out and take many chances against United so Ole is going to have to come up with something different to beat them and will certainly have to assert themselves more.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 18, 2021, 11:40:48 AM »
Could see why yesterday given how high up the pitch Liverpool play but his from is worrying.

Shaw is improving going forward, it was his cross for Maguire's disallowed goal and also for Fernandes chance yesterday. He has good dribbling ability so would like to see more of it, Fred and McTominay been braver on the ball in these types of games will help Shaw too.

Fred, Bailly, Shaw & Lindelof have been hammered by fans so Ole deserves plenty of credit for the way he's managing to get performances out of them, whether United will win a league under Ole I don't know and still have a few doubts but he deserves more credit then he's getting for the way he's managed to turn it round so far, there's still a long way to go but United certainly don't look as brittle as they did. Since Fernandes came in United have 69 points from 32 league games whilst it was 42 from the previous 32 league games; Thats some improvement.


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 18, 2021, 10:18:17 AM »
Happy with the point in the end, Liverpool look like a team playing off memory at the moment.
I think at the end of the season OGS will look back at this one as a missed opportunity.

The form of Rashford and Martial is really concerning. Rashford has contributed in terms of assists, but he is more wasteful than any other player I can think of at the moment, not to mention his ability to stay on side.

Martial just looks completely lost, doesnt work hard enough on or off the ball and gives it away constantly.

Like I said in my post fatigue has to be an issue with some of these guys? Yesterdays game was Utds 10th in a month, Liverpool have had 'only' 7 in the same period. I don't know what the answer is as there are 9 more games scheduled for the next month but I can see a lot of teams running on empty long before seasons end.

I have no interest in the Europa League given United's position in the league, if United are still in a similar position come the European games I'd be delighted if he sends the kids out although if United get knocked out by Liverpool this weekend it will free up a bit of time.

Greenwood hasn't got going this season, will be a big bonus if he can and ease the pressure on Rashford.

I mentioned it last week but If I were Ole I'd be trying to bring in a winger this month on loan. James isn't good enough, wasn't even in the squad yesterday.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: January 18, 2021, 09:32:47 AM »
Disappointed with the performance of our attacking players, the game was there to be won. So many times in that first half Rashford would have been away through on goal if he'd have timed his run better but the one time he did time it perfectly the ball from Pogba wasn't good enough. McTominay & Fred had better 2nd halfs but had to be braver on the ball during the 1st half.

Shaw again excellent, since Telles came in he's been superb; Based on what we'd seen since he signed I didn't think he had these levels of performances in him.

I think United lacked a bit of belief yesterday although it could be argued they just couldn't keep the ball well enough during that 1st half but it does show how far United have come in the last 12 months that we're in this position.

As for Thiago I have no idea how he wasn't booked, every single foul was a tactical one to stop United on the counter which would normally result in a booking, apparently he made 5 of these yesterday and avoided a booking. It was really poor from the ref and not picked up from any of the pundits.

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