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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: July 16, 2019, 02:14:18 PM »
I came on here in hope of seeing some good news, none yet.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Meath vs Mayo, Croke Park 21/7/19
« on: July 16, 2019, 09:39:35 AM »
We didn’t run out of steam. Not sure we can excuse it all by injuries and fatigue. We appeared totally ambushed by Kerry’s intensity. Pace and tactics from the throw in. Thought we lasted the pace quite well. Just never got going at the level necessary to deal with Kerry yesterday.

You're been very harsh on your lot, I'd have though the previous few weeks exertions would have been mentally very tasking too. Don't get me wrong tactically Horan got a fair bit wrong too and when you only win 30% of your own kickouts during a half of football you've got no chance of winning any game. If Mayo had been able to get hold of their own kickouts they'd have been able to stem the tide and slow Kerry down but they couldn't and Kerry kept gaining momentum.

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Would have been a dreadful week if Galway hadn't won last night, sounds like a very comfortable win. How did Tierney play?

We won't know how good this group are until the next day although I do think this is a poor Mayo team. Galway hammered Mayo u17's & U18's in 2017. I see Solan get plenty of criticism but he can't perform miracles if the players aren't there.

Galway have 4 wins in a row against Mayo at this level. I still maintain they threw away a great opportunity last year to go very far and win against the Dubs in 2017 through poor management.




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Connacht U20 final on tomorrow night at 730 in Tuam. No Youtube coverage for this final unlike the U17 final by the looks of it?

Two teams named

Galway: Oran Burke, Ross Mahon, Seán Mulkerrin, Eoghan McFadden, Liam Boyle, Ciarán Potter, Jack Kirrane, Matthias Barrett, Michael Collins, Matthew Tierney, Gavin Burke, Ben O’Connell, Darragh Silke, Padraig Costello, Rory Cunningham

Mayo: Jamie McNicholas, Jack Coyne, Rory Brickenden, Oisín Mullin, Aaron McDonnell, Conor Beirne, Eoghan McLaughlin, Evan O’Brien, Gavin Durcan, John Gallagher, Paul Towey, Paddy Goldrick, Aidan Orme, Stephen McGreal, Tommy Conroy

Galway have been really hyped up due to the results in the John Kerins competiton, Galway never seems to wear the favourites tag well.

I only saw this bunch once at minor level against Cavan and they were poor, lets hope they live up to the expectation.

They hammered this Mayo team by 13 points at minor in 2017 albeit Evan Murphy is a substantial loss since then but Matthew Tierney was only a sub that day and has really blossomed since. A lot of positional changes on the Mayo side since 2017 so it'll be a lot tighter tonight I imagine.

What happened to Evan Murphy's try out with Galway United, was it cut short due to injury? both have 8 same starters by my county from that minor match.  Daniel Kenny who i recall was big physical lad scored two goals in that match is he still playing football?  I think Tierney was starter Galway U17 team that year.

Tierney did play U17 that year, he's underage for the 20's again next year,

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GAA Discussion / Re: Rossies v Tyrone Hyde Park 13th July 5pm.
« on: July 10, 2019, 09:52:55 AM »
Will it be a sell out? I'm expecting this to be a lot closer than many are expecting.

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U20s results

Dublin 1 17 Wex 0 6
Laois 1 13 Meath 0 7

Interesting to see how Laois will go in the final, this group lost to Kildare 2 years ago by 5 points but reversed that this year and turn a 1 pt victory  two years ago into 9 tonight over Meath. That is quality progress, Dublin though turn boys into men better than anyone else.

What would you put that down too?




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Connacht U20 final on tomorrow night at 730 in Tuam. No Youtube coverage for this final unlike the U17 final by the looks of it?

Two teams named

Galway: Oran Burke, Ross Mahon, Seán Mulkerrin, Eoghan McFadden, Liam Boyle, Ciarán Potter, Jack Kirrane, Matthias Barrett, Michael Collins, Matthew Tierney, Gavin Burke, Ben O’Connell, Darragh Silke, Padraig Costello, Rory Cunningham

Mayo: Jamie McNicholas, Jack Coyne, Rory Brickenden, Oisín Mullin, Aaron McDonnell, Conor Beirne, Eoghan McLaughlin, Evan O’Brien, Gavin Durcan, John Gallagher, Paul Towey, Paddy Goldrick, Aidan Orme, Stephen McGreal, Tommy Conroy

Galway have been really hyped up due to the results in the John Kerins competiton, Galway never seems to wear the favourites tag well.

I only saw this bunch once at minor level against Cavan and they were poor, lets hope they live up to the expectation.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Galway V Mayo R4 Qualifier
« on: July 10, 2019, 09:35:26 AM »
Imo

           Power
Silke OCeallaigh Kerin
McDaid   Daly   Molloy
      Flynn Conroy
Walsh Cooke Brannigan
  Burke Comer OLaoi

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
That Full Back line has been proven to be not up to scratch, Galway will win nothing against good teams with it based on what we've seen so far. Silke looks a HB or nothing based on inter county form to date.
You're going the right direction with the HB line, nothing to say that it will work at all but worth a try.

Silke certainly isn't a corner back, he's a half back. I wouldn't write off any of Kerin, Sean Andy & Kyne. I'd like to see them under different management. I've more worries about Sean Andy than the other two, would like to see how all 3 perform under different management and a different system. Looks like to me Paddy Tally has been a big miss. I'm not sure who else is breaking through in the full back line. Looking at last year u20's side in the fullback line Mulkerrins is back u20 this year, Conor Campbell is joint captain but only the bench and Sean Fitzgerald is on the panel I think but not playing although still underage next year. Eoin McFadden was the best corner back I've seen from the previous 4 teams who've won Connacht, he starts tonight for the 20's. Mulkerrins was an exceptional minor, easily stood out as one of the best players at minor level; Interested to see how he progresses.

I just listened to Parkinson's podcast, they thought Kyne & Sean Andy played well.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Galway V Mayo R4 Qualifier
« on: July 09, 2019, 02:12:29 PM »
Think the injuries situation is being overplayed somewhat. Bar Comer and maybe Conroy at a stretch, because we have a very ordinary team, none of the injury absentees could be said to be a first teamer or a greater loss than what was available.

As for picking a team for next year, the only attempt I could make at it;

1)  Power (though has to prove that he is much better than Lavelle)

2) ??
3) ??
4) ??

5) ??
6)  John Daly
7) ??  Maybe McDaid, needs to improve his footballing ability

8)  ??
9)  ??

10)  ??
11)  ??
12)  ??

13)  O Laoi, perhaps worth an extended run to see what he's made of
14)  Comer, assuming fully fit
15)  Ian Burke, his prior 2 years have shown that he has the necessary ability at this level

I'm not trying to be smart, leaving so many vacancies, it's just that I really don't think any other player is guaranteed a position, such has been their poor form, particularly this season. In defence, SAOC needs to up it big time, Kerin needs to grow up, stop unnecessary fouling and cop-on, Silke maybe more suited to wing-back, Bradshaw and GOD aren't the future, loyal servants though they are. Flynn probably one midfield berth, though there's many of the better Div. 1 teams he would struggle to make; I'd like to see FOC get a good injury-free run, I think he's a better player than Flynn. D'Arcy one for the future hopefully. In the forwards, Brannigan, Heaney, Ml. Daly (too one-paced) are all of a muchness - again, how many would get on the top teams remaining in the Hateful 8s? Shane Walsh, if he couldn't carry his team the past couple of games, then is he ever going to do it? I know he was being fouled a lot unfairly, but he has to rise above that and lead a team, such is his ability.

It wasn't that the Mayo defeat was a particularly bad night, (they played better than v. Roscommon), it's just that it was the culmination of a long run of bad form. In truth, good games under KW have been very few and far between; ( Kildare in Div II final, Roscommon in Connacht replay in '16, Donegal in qualifier 2 years ago, Kildare last year spring most to mind. It was nice to beat Kerry last year also, but the game itself was drab). If the players are at fault for this, then a new panel is needed. If the management is the cause, then it's time for them to go. Changing nothing, which is still most likely, won't change anything. Meanwhile the fans are staying away in increasing numbers.

I can understand why some are been pessimistic but think you're been very harsh especially on Shane Walsh; He's not one of Galways problems. Agree on Daly he hasn't kicked on but would like to see him play under a different manager, not every player has to be blessed with great pace. Agree on Brannigan & Heaney, their good subs to have but I wouldn't have them starting although I do think Brannigan could improve but he's practically missed the whole of this year. Don't agree on FOC, would take Flynn every day over him.

As for injuries when 5 of your 6 midfielders don't start and the 6th has been struggling with injury its bound to affect any team, when I saw the team that started I feared the worst. Add in that Kyne, Comer, Brannigan & McDaid have barely kicked a ball all year and all started its not a great combination

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GAA Discussion / Re: Meath vs Donegal - 3rd time lucky??
« on: July 09, 2019, 01:55:02 PM »
I worry for Meath, I do think they'll perform a lot better this weekend then they did against Clare as the pressure is off but just don't think Meath have the quality required to cause Donegal enough problems. Do Meath have any quality forwards coming through? A few on social media seemed excited by Shane Walsh coming on last weekend.


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GAA Discussion / Re: 2019 is this mayo year
« on: July 09, 2019, 01:51:32 PM »
More like the wooden spoon in the group I’m afraid. Don’t think anyone truly believes we are contenders this year . You’d imagine Horan has a long ish term plan the way you see things developing, I’d expect mayo to be genuine challengers in 20/21 if it all comes together

The time is now, a lot of really top players don't have that long left in them.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« on: July 09, 2019, 01:40:34 PM »
I'm sure Kerry will be well up for this, they'll have heard all this week that they were bullied in the league final and nobody likes to hear that sort of talk.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Galway V Mayo R4 Qualifier
« on: July 09, 2019, 10:31:37 AM »
Out of interest if everyone was fit who would be your starting 15 next year?
Very hard to pick a starting 15 for next year, on average the Galway championship panel has had a turnover of nearly a third every year. There's lads on that panel who'll never see a jersey again and if the management is changed all bets are off on the composition of the 2020 panel.

If you had said after the Dublin match last year it would turn out that Antaine O Laoi should have started ahead of Ian Burke in a do or die round 4 qualifier against Mayo, no one would have given any credibility to that statement, yet that's the reality now in July 2019.
2018 starter Cathal Sweeney took an unexpected step back this year from the team, likely someone else will do the same next year.

The only guaranteed starters next year should be Shane Walsh, Damien Comer (assuming this injury hasn't wrecked his career), Tom Flynn and John Daly (assuming that he improves as expected but this young lad has the look of someone who we should be building the HB line around). Ian Burke is a starter as well if this season is a once off and that he gets back to the high level he can play at. Cooke needs to be developed into the player he can be but you couldn't say he's a guaranteed starter yet.
Every other position is up for grabs as far as I'm concerned for a variety of reasons.
I'm really hoping that Molloy and McDaid will turn into the players at IC that they can be, they've done nothing as of yet though. O Laoi needs to hit the gym and improve that aspect.


Agree with that, the likes of Kerin has to get back to the form of last year when he was very disciplined and I wouldn't give up on Sean Andy yet, hopefully he learns from the mistakes of this year. Thankfully the club finals have changed so if Corofin do get there it gives Power, Silke, Wall, Molloy, Burke & Farragher a chance to play in the league. I'm sure we'll find another player or two, John Daly & O'Laoi really stood up and impressed this year.

Despite the media fascination with Mayo's injuries Galway have been hit harder all year, I'd like to think we're due a bit of luck next year  with that regards.

I listened last night to Kevin Walsh who was on yesterday morning on GBFM, sounds like he'll do another year if he gets support from the players and delegates. He's certainly not going to make any quick decision, think we'll have to wait until another 6 weeks to find out.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo tactical fouling
« on: July 08, 2019, 05:27:49 PM »
What was Cillian O'Connor up to that seems to have annoyed so many on social media?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Galway V Mayo R4 Qualifier
« on: July 08, 2019, 04:38:48 PM »
Would that be down to fatigue, the Corofin contingent not being their usual standards?
It's a good question. They could do with a break no doubt about that.
Ian Burke showed last year the quality that he has but has been a shadow of that player this year.
I have always rated Liam Silke highly but have been really really surprised how rank bad he has been for Galway in the championship this year.
But he's not alone there. Shane Walsh was brilliant throughout last season and has been quiet overall this year.
Power is a quality keeper - he will recover from Sat night for sure.
Martin Farragher is an unknown quantity - Saturday was his first ever start in a Galway jersey at any level as far as I know (I don't think he played minor and was a sub for the 21s) - so the jury is out as to whether he has what it takes for senior county football.
All I can say is that he deserves his chance given the performances he has been putting in for Corofin.
To be a really top class player you have to do it consistently game in game out, every year for a sustained period at inter county level, forget the club performances. None of the Corofin contingent have done that this decade, Lundy had a fantastic 2014 in a Galway jersey but never got near those heights again. Ian Burke was electric last year, nowhere this year, Silke majestic for UCD and Corofin, hasn't done it in a Galway jersey to those heights ever. Has their exertions with the club had an effect in the summer? Lack of game time to integrate in the league? Plenty will blame Kevin Walsh and the system but I'm not sure about that.

And by top class I don't mean necessarily hitting the 9/10 performance every day but remaining influential throughout, taking the right options in general and never having a really bad day out any time on the pitch, the likes of TJ Reid, James McCarthy, Lee Keegan, Brian Fenton, Declan O'Sullivan. Over the last few years Keegan might have a quietish game but he'll never have an awful one.
I was at nearly every league and championship Galway match this year and from fuzzy recollection the most consistent player who was hovering in around the 7/10 mark most days was John Daly along with Tom Flynn up until the Roscommon game (when he was clearly not 100%), so the most consistent player for Galway this year that started on the pitch the last day was a kid and our best player in the backs on the day was Kyne who hadn't played since the FBD league, this is madness and not a good look for the players or management.
Shane Walsh was robbed of an All Star last year when he was by a mile Galway's best player but he's not backed that up this year, he's 26 now and should be the main man for Galway day in day out like PJ was in his heyday. Instead he is still missing frees that should be converted, he hit the post from a 21 yard free in front of the posts against Roscommon in the league, the very best generally don't do that.
Don't get me wrong we'd be far worse off without him and this is ultra harsh on good players but that's the bar for greatness, what Galway player would fulfil that at the moment?

Out of interest if everyone was fit who would be your starting 15 next year?


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