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GAA Discussion / Re: USFC 2020 Semi-Final Armagh v Donegal
« on: November 14, 2020, 05:01:34 PM »
Six county Gaelic football has declined something shocking

Only Down left carrying the fleg in this year's championship now

Since the decline of the great Tyrone team there has been no outstanding team from the wee six

Down 2010 and Tyrone 2018 reached All-Ireland finals but Down 2010 were a flash in the pan and Tyrone 2018 stumbled into the final almost by default in a year when other potential challengers were taken out

7 of the last 9 Ulster Championships have gone to the saorstát and that looks almost certain to be 8 out of 10

Only Tyrone have maintained any sort of pretensions of being near the top table, Armagh, Down and Derry are in long slumbers, Fermanagh and Antrim can throw their hats at it

This is the first year since 2014 that an Ulster team has progressed further than Tyrone

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GAA Discussion / Re: Colm Parkinson/The GAA Hour
« on: November 10, 2020, 06:36:55 PM »
I usually only listen to the football as well. To be fair their Monday shows with Cian Ward are always enjoyable as he is an excellent analyst

Cian Ward is awful. Only worse pundit is Ger Brennan.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: October 26, 2020, 07:50:01 PM »
Joe McQuillan ref for Sunday..

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: October 16, 2020, 07:27:31 PM »
Colm hasn't exactly been praising Harte in recent interviews (not that he has to, I'm sure they spoke on the phone after the retirement decision) but I'm sure he is embarrassed in a way at Big Sean using his name for publicity again. 

Agree with Angelo, looking forward to the under 20s more so than the Seniors, deserve to see that Championship read up at least - would be great to beat the Dubs

Mark Bradley bound to be near a starting place after his performances for club particularly vs Trillick

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 26, 2020, 11:45:52 AM »
I actually agree with a loot of what you are saying. It's just when I see people here criticising as you say one of top players in Peter Harte and then criticising the manager for not getting the best out of the players - can't really have it both ways. Either the players are good enough or not.
The win over Donegal in 2018 was an impressive victory, a lot of talk was how our subs made a huge difference that day - we played a more attacking style of football from that point, should have been well up on Monaghan in the first half but then seemed to get nervy in the second half with the chance of a first All Ireland final in ten years at stake. We were 6/1 outsiders for the Final, realistically Dublin were just a better team, I do take the point that Mayo and Kerry seem to be able to run them close on the big days although not so much in the last 2 years (Mayo took a real hammering in the second half last year, Kerry ended up well beaten in the replay, same margin as 2018 final after playing most of the drawn game against 14 men). The current Dubs are a juggernaut.

Take the Kerry game last year as the most recent large piece of evidence. We were well in control at half time (4 points up). We played some terrific football using Mattie and McShane in the full forward line, using a direct style with arguably our best team on the field (one that played the 2nd half against Cork). Could argue the lack of link up with the half forward line but we were looking in control.
Nearly all the scores Kerry got in the first half were really poor Tyrone errors (from memory stupid free given away by Mattie, Morgan kicked ball directly to Geaney, Richie Donnelly intercepted crossfield pass)

Refereeing decisions and some bad individual errors cost us, let Kerry back into the game and once the Kerry forwards starting rolling they kicked some superb scores. I don't know if you could direct most of the blame to Mickey for that result to be honest. I thought at the time McCurry should have been brought in sooner.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 25, 2020, 12:06:20 PM »
They won’t be giving him anything, he’ll be taking any extension he sees fit. He will decide when he steps away.

And rightly so he should take the extension.  Always baffles me the amount of people who want to get rid of the greatest manager in the history of Tyrone GAA  :-\  The man delivered 3 All Irelands, a league title, numerous Ulster's and basically a McKenna cup every year.



In fairness listing the McKenna Cup is hardly necessary.. A warm up tournament which has no relevance on the fiull season.

Sean Boylan was a great manager with Meath, but stayed on too long.  Brian Cody a bit similar to Mickey Harte, doesn't want to relenquish the power as manager. They reached the All Ireland final last year with a new team.,which was a good achievement m
There is still calls for a fresh look in Kilkenny.

Tyrone reached the All Ireland final in 2018 and some Semi final appearance which would have given Mickey Harte some leeway, though Tyrone are in a decent position, so if Harte at end of year, they aren't in a bad place. Meath were a sinking ship for a new manager when Boylan left.

The thing is, do Tyrone have the quality of players that should have been winning All Irelands or at least getting very close over the past 5 years?
We have won 2 Ulsters, reached 3 All-Ireland Semis & 1 All-Ireland Final in that time which apart from the 2000s must be considered Tyrone's best ever period (maybe 95/96 better achievement as straight KO?)
A few weeks ago, people on here were rubbishing Peter Harte's reputation as a big player. If you ask anyone reasonable in the country they would say that Peter Harte would be one of our top 3/4 players over the past 5 years.
Therefore if one of our best players is such a poor player then how do we expect to be winning All Irelands and can it be said that Mickey is not getting the best out of his available personnel?

I personally thought he should have went after the 2017 Semi but the run to the final in 2018 was a vindication of him staying on IMO. I would have liked to judge him based on this year but with Covid now I think it is likely he will get another year.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 20, 2020, 08:49:13 PM »
Must have been near 20 moments over the course of the Championship that you could have said 'Ah that's Dungannon gone now'.
2 late points vs Loughmacrory to get to extra time
Late equaliser by Donaghy vs Ardboe to get to extra time, late points to win it
Equaliser vs Errigal to take it to extra time, 3 points down ht in et, winner with last kick 45
5 or 6 down first half today. Equaliser by Morgan late on in normal time, 2 points down in et. Then about 4 or 5 sudden death penalties where if they had missed they were beat.

Just an amazing run.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 20, 2020, 12:18:56 PM »
Eglish just need to beat Strabane now in the last league to go up to Senior - meaning 2 of the 3 relegated last year straight back up again

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 19, 2020, 01:15:49 PM »
Edendork already promoted through the league - could be a factor with Gortin being the hungrier team

They're not. They have to win the league final to ensure promotion that way.

Yes apologies got mixed up there - already qualified for the league final so 2 shots at it.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 19, 2020, 11:24:49 AM »
Edendork already promoted through the league - could be a factor with Gortin being the hungrier team

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: August 29, 2020, 06:42:46 PM »
Derrylaughan put a decent fight up in the last 15 mins there.
Anyone know are the Semi-Finals pre-determined this year? Tyrone GAA seemed to be saying it's Coalisland v Trillick in the semis

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: August 16, 2020, 07:37:07 PM »
Paddy Hunter very cheeky there bragging about the quality of the Errigal stream (which was out for most of the first 10 minutes) - then saying that if you are having issues it must be an issue with your own server! Couldn't make it up

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: August 04, 2020, 06:50:42 PM »
Couple of bad injuries for Errigal - Darragh Canavan broken wrist, Paudge McAnenly ACL, forward line was where they struggled badly last year too

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: June 30, 2020, 08:45:51 PM »
Division 1A
Killyclogher
Pomeroy
Carrickmore
Loughmacrory
Errigal Ciaran
Dungannon
Ardboe
Moy

Division 1B
Donaghmore
Dromore
Omagh
Galbally
Trillick
Derrylaughan
Clonoe
Coalisland

Division 2A
Moortown
Edendork
Rock
Owen Roes
Greencastle
Naomh Eoghan
Tattyreagh
Stewartstown

Division 2B
Strabane
Eglish
Aghyaran
Gortin
Augher
Clogher
Aghaloo
Beragh

Division 3A
Cookstown
Castlederg
Drumquin
Errigal III
Brocagh
Urney
Clann na nGael
Coalisland III

Division 3B
Drumragh
Killeeshil
Fintona
Eskra
Brackaville
Killyman
Derrytresk
Kildress
Glenelly

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 23, 2020, 05:08:46 PM »
Tyrone missed far too many chances early on - the Cavanagh goal chance and must have hit 4 or 5 off the post.. stat came up around the 30min mark, Galway 9/12 scores, Tyrone 4/13, summed it up. Tyrone gave the ball away so cheaply at times whereas Galway didn't.
First red card very harsh, rarely see them given.
McShane injury is an awful blow if as bad as it looks.
Was actually only 3 points in it 0-14 to 0-11 with about 20 minutes left.. Galway got the penalty (was Rafferty marking Comer - strange every attack - Tyrone had threw in the towel (not a good sign) and kept giving away dreadful passes in attack any time we did have it.
Hard to single out bad performances there but Peter Harte's body language was terrible, looked like he didn't want to know.

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