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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 04, 2012, 12:19:44 PM »
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...
Difference being Manballandall, he is the patriarch of the Antrim Hurling board, a hero member and all that.  Us lesser mortals always stand corrected!  :o ::)

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Who gives a toss, UP the CATs!

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:20:02 AM »
Lets move on men for jasus sake, whingeing and gurning appears to be a common trait throughout St. Galls.  Enough I say!

Referees, teachers + whingers, gurners, it must be a hormone imbalance.  Prescribe them boys some patches jasus sake!  ;D ;)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:09:37 AM »
I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.

Look manballandall, Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. If you were to speak to Cushendall men they'll say he give us a few handy frees, speak to a Galls man and he'll say he let Cushendall away with a few things in the game.

Inconsistency is not done on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything. The ones giving off about the ref (and I also shouted from the stand at some decisions) on here haven't refereed a game at a proper level so it to me you're are being wee bit harsh.

I've criticised referees before and I'll do it again, no doubt that. But Owen did well enough and he had no major say on who won the game.

So what exactly were you shouting at then ?
Maybe your vision was a bit blurred as you missed a fair bit of the match being at the bar...some supporter.
Ho, ho, ho, getting personal men/lads, reign it in a little.  ::) :o

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:05:19 AM »
Now, now children, sit down, fold your arms and put your finger on your lips!  Failing that, just dig the hoor!  :) :D ;)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 04, 2012, 09:36:58 AM »
I cant believe the amount of whinging going on and from some St Galls folk as well. They wre jabbing their ribs...well if they are then jab them f**king back. Jasus its senior championship and from what I seen it was fairly tame, compare that to what goes on between kilkenny and Tipp and most probably will go on at Croke on Sunday. Im actually embarrassed to hera that from fellow clubmen who should know better. I received and gave out much worse than that, its part of the game. Sundays game wasnt dirty at all and I agree totally to whats been said about St Galls....the players have to be willing to put in the effort required to win a senior hurling championship and I just dont think they will give that committment from enough players. Frustrating as fcuk though as i do believe we could give it a good lash but cest la vie.

I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.
Jasus man, them's mighty words  ;) :D

If it's not the pitch, it's the rules, it's the county, it's the venue, it's the lack of commitment, it's football, but ultimately, it's always the referee!  See what I mean, bloody referees!  ;D ;)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 07:32:32 PM »
"fundamentals of teamwork and commitment"........don't make me laugh!! Where did teamwork and commitment come into it when you were rolling around Bcastle plastered this past week or so!  No discipline in your camp.
Rolling around BCastle, who me? Most definately not.  I was at a wedding and I don't roll around anywhere I'll have you know.  I suppose you were playing for Ballycastle, it has been said they had a few big hairy women playing for them against Dunloy?  Not my words by the way!  :D ;)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 06:14:08 PM »
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

Winker if you knew anything about hurling you would know that CJ can more than hold his own
I know a fair amount about hurling man, although I would never profess to be an expert,
not like you and many other.  CJ in my view maybe be talented, but it take much more than talent to be able to hold your own!  Personally, I believe him to be a liability on any team,as he forgets about the fundamentals of teamwork and commitment. Talent in my view is only one key component of being a good hurler or making a vital contribution to "the team".  Of this I am certain. e.g.  Does Watson, Donnelly, McManus, Shields not hold their own at their respective hurling clubs?  Is only their talent, contribution and ability to hold their own the only key factor towards a teams success?  CJ in effect, could potentially cost you a game in my opinion.  But remember, I am no expert! ;) ;D

In defence of CJ and not attacking other you have named, some of their disciplinary records could be questioned so I think that is a silly point. CJ scored about 1-2 yesterday (maybe more from frees) and was really good at centre back last year against Dunloy and ourselves which for me is a worthwhile contribution. I will of course remember you are no expert  ;)
You are entitled to think that it silly, but others did not think so.  Likewise, I will remember that you are an alleged expert.  So you put yourself in the Brian Cody (Expert) category would you?    I have news for you man, you or I are no Brian Cody -  Catch yourself on! :o :D ;)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 04:18:15 PM »
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

Winker if you knew anything about hurling you would know that CJ can more than hold his own
I know a fair amount about hurling man! Although I would never profess to be an expert,
not like you and many others.  CJ in my view maybe be talented, but it takes much more than talent to be able to hold your own!  Personally, I believe him to be a liability on any team,as he forgets about the fundamentals of teamwork and commitment. Talent in my view is only one key component of being a good hurler or making a vital contribution to "the team".  Of this I am certain. e.g.  Does Watson, Donnelly, McManus, Shields not hold their own at their respective hurling clubs?  Is only their talent, contribution and ability to hold their own, the only key factor towards a teams success?  CJ in effect, could potentially cost you a game in my opinion.  But remember, I am no expert! ;) ;D

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 03:36:50 PM »
I will tell ye one thing though, in my humble opinion.  St. Galls, if, and it's a big if, committed to one season, say next year to focusing, committing and putting the same level of their physical and human resources, under the right man (no, you!) as they do for football, I honestly believe they could win a county hurling championship.  Have no doubt about that.  Big question is though, will they/would they want to?????  Therein is the dilemma for St. Galls!

Big ball or wee ball?

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 03:30:04 PM »
Thank Fck your leaving the Referee's alone for a change boys, what i hear all 4 matches where below what was expected, in fairness it was effectively the 1st round, things take time, dunloy imo will improve the most from their encounter.
that said MIBAG, the refereeing was sub standard also.  So, which game did you get? Obviously one of no significance!  ;) ::)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 03:26:16 PM »
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 02:16:20 PM »
That was a tight game last night, maybe not top drawer hurling but 2 evenly match teams. Ballycastle settled well after a shaky start and the half back line turned a lot of ball from about the 10th min on. However they didnít get the scores and ended up going in a point down at half time. Thought there were points for the taking throughout the game for Ballycastle but the game plan seemed to be get the ball in low to the full forward line instead. Its good to have a game plan but in a tight game like that when the points are there they need to be taken.

As the game got near the end I thought it was going to be a draw which would have been fair enough although I believe extra time would have been played in that case. Dunloy worked the indirect free very well to get the winning point so fair play to them for that.

We had 7 u21s and 1 minor starting last night so hopefully they can learn from it and improve over the next couple of years.

Where did you see me criticise?
Merely an observation on my part, three training sessions freely admitted by MR2, to me is a lack of respect to Cushendall and the competition. Totally get the reasons behind it but doesn't change my opinion.
To hell with your 'OBSERVATION' man!  You directly inferred St. Galls were getting a few lashes from Cushendall for showing them lack of respect, as they only trained 3 times prior to the championship clash with the Dall. You are certainly entitled to an opinion, but please do not be making ludicrous remarks as to how a club did or did not prepare for a championship bout against the Dall. Do the Dall warrant or command such respect that you allude to?  Maybe just as well St. Galls hurling was in turmoil this year,as you would then not be making such idiotic comments observations.  Enough said, I expect?  ::)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 01:24:37 PM »
No one any the wiser after the weekends games, still going to be all on the day between Cushendall and Dunloy. LG win the other semi final handy enough so it's as you were really.

MR2 I think maybe there is a perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship by your boys from other clubs, might explain some of the rougher treatment handed out.
To even suggest there is a "perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship! by a dual Belfast club, is really a bit rich coming from clubs whose primary focus is on hurling.  i.e Loughgeil, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Cushedall etc.

It may be difficult for you to appreciate and comprehend how a dual club like St.Galls encounters difficulties of a severe magnitude by participating in both codes.  Football is clearly their main focus and where they are mostly likely to achieve success.  However, they are facing up to their responsibilities of promoting and participating in both codes.  Does this give any individual or opposing club to criticise any club or use it as an excuse for" dishing out rough treatment" as you put it?  Catch yourself on man!   :o

In support of your comments though, I would think their would be a sizable queue forming in St. Galls to get a lash at two of the McGourtys anytime.  ;)

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 03, 2012, 09:58:55 AM »
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.

I'm not complaining was just saying like :P

Would be worried that CJ was out catching your fullbacks JJ.
Cerainly something that should be addressed among a whole load of other things IMO, We where poor, very poor, but thankfully St Galls where equally as poor, was expecting more from them.

After watching 3 out of 4 games it most certainly IMHO is Loughgiels to lose this year (although conceding 4-10 will be worrying for them)
Surely a team who can concede 4-10 and still win by 12 points, is not a bad team.  Why worry??  ;)

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