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This is getting embarrassing now.

Dublin stuffed a team thatís nowhere near their level.

If Mayo take their eye off their game tomorrow theyíll lose.

That's what senior inter county is all about at the moment.

Dublin are too good so they have to be handicapped or hindered. The fact everyone else isn't good enough is Dublin's fault as well. Being brilliant is a crime in the GAA apparently. Strange how Kilkenny hurlers never had to put up with this sort of ignorant bulls**t

Nobody complaining about the Dublin hurlers getting the same stuff - why?

Because they're not winning anything.

But from base they were at to where they are now is massive improvements. Plus All Ireland Hurling Club winning team. If you said that 10 years ago people would have laughed.

But, but, but.

Always excuses.  I'm not from Dublin by the way.

This attitude of 'they're better than us' etc. etc.  They've put the work in and are now reaping the benefits.  Other counties are looking at the quick-fix solution with brown envelopes for manages instead of investing it in the clubs and development.  Then f*^k the manager out and "employ" another one.  Same result.

Would counties not go to Dublin and see their plans from 15 / 20 yesrs ago?

We are going down the American sports' routes - franchises in each county with population caps on it etc.

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Mup you understand that Dublin has a large population and it should be funded accordingly.

If itís getting proportionally more, then that should stop.

Each county should be looked after based on their population.

If youíve a link to show they have been getting that more than them each county should and would be crying foul. Why other counties are not doing that is confusing. Dublin is one county.

On another note:

Is GAA the biggest sport in Dublin? Knowing soccer has the biggest base in Ireland Iíd say ( unless thereís stats show different) Itís not,  competing against that requires constant input

Or senior playing membership would be a better way to look at it.

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This is getting embarrassing now.

Dublin stuffed a team thatís nowhere near their level.

If Mayo take their eye off their game tomorrow theyíll lose.

That's what senior inter county is all about at the moment.

Dublin are too good so they have to be handicapped or hindered. The fact everyone else isn't good enough is Dublin's fault as well. Being brilliant is a crime in the GAA apparently. Strange how Kilkenny hurlers never had to put up with this sort of ignorant bulls**t

Nobody complaining about the Dublin hurlers getting the same stuff - why?

Because they're not winning anything.

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Dublin won that game tonight without breaking sweat, it was like a training match, it was supposed to be a an AI semi-final.
The way the current structure is they could conceivably win the next 5 AI's.
If you think all is well in GAA football, you are living in the land of the fairies.
The next time someone bangs on about the amateur ethos I will vomit, Dublin are amateur in name only, they are professional in every single department.
I thought the GAA was built on the village team or the town team, Dublin are a long, long, way from that.

FFS, you want the school system now where each pupil get a certificate for 'Pupil of the Week', regardless of how good/bad they are!

In 2021, Sam Maguire goes to Cork, 2022, Sam goes to Leitrim etc. etc.

Everybody's a winner!!

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Is there no responsibility on the other counties in this debate?

All Dublin's fault?

Who said it was Dublinís fault? Dublin donít confer those advantages on themselves , Itís the GAA that allows those advantages.

What advantages?

Population
Haven't played away in province in years
No travel expenses
No overnight expenses
Train where they live so can recover quicker and don't pay mileage
Massive disproportionate funding
Free centre of excellence
Don't have to pay for a proper county ground or build one

Cop out.

Nobody brought these up when Meath was dominating Leinster and All Ireland under Sean Boylan.

It's a defeatest attitude.

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Is there no responsibility on the other counties in this debate?

All Dublin's fault?

Who said it was Dublinís fault? Dublin donít confer those advantages on themselves , Itís the GAA that allows those advantages.

What advantages?

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Is there no responsibility on the other counties in this debate?

All Dublin's fault?

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: December 05, 2020, 05:27:16 PM »
Outside managers are an expensive and pointless blight on GAA clubs; every club's manager should be a member

That is all well and good - but its not easy being criticised by neighbours for playing the wrong team, playing the wrong tactics, being accused of not picking so-and-so because yer granda had a row with his granda 50 years ago etc etc etc.

I agree with the sentiment - but have had variations on the above put to me by men who did manage their club at senior level. So its not just a case of clubs looking outside - there is also a case of many within not wanting the spotlight of the parish on them.

If getting an internal manager was so easy , why are most clubs happy to pay expenses to an ďoutsiderĒ. I think itís a myth that there are mercenary coaches going around coining it. I have Known many external coaches and Iíve yet to Meet onex whoís primary motivation is money. In my experience they are highly motivated people, who enjoy doing what theyíre good at, and contribute enormously to clubs and GAA development. Often they wonít coach in their own clubs for the reasons mentioned above , whereas they can enjoy coaching an external team where they are judged on their merits with no internal factors to distract them. Itís particularly important for less successful clubs to see a different approach to bring them on , rather than insular stagnation. Even if an internal coach is happy to do the job, and does not cost expenses , itís not necessarily the perfect answer. Outside ideas are healthy. Those that cry re coaching expenses would be better focussing on the current unfairness in the GAA where Dublin clubs can pay GPOs , helped by GAA funding. I think this obviously works in Dublin, and is creating employment which is brilliant, however the GAA should be working towards a mechanism for making it available in every county . Given the future challenges for society , the GAA is in a position to create employment and make an even greater contribution to society .

Are you for real?...the love of the job etc. You must be in the manager's union.

If money isn't the motivating factor and it's their love of that club, why don't they let the brown envelopes go back into the underage development of said club?

Also, their love of the club mustn't be that great if they move to another club down the road after one year!!

 

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 05, 2020, 12:20:36 PM »
Have the Dublin government no blame in this?

Very little blame on Dublin IMO.

How do you try and manage a partnership with Stormont when they cannot even manage themselves?

Do you think there was going to be harmony?

If so, you're not tuned in.

SF/SDLP look to Dublin, while the DUP/UUP look to London for guidance on covid.

With that outlook, there was never going to be agreement and all those people who say, Stormont is a mess would be the same people complaining if SF/SDLP would say we're following London's model.

It's a no-win situation.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 04, 2020, 10:16:38 PM »
The big difference between the North and the South has been leadership.
In the North we had Sinn Fein and the Bobby Storey fiasco.  Then, so they were not undone , Edwin decided that the Coruna Virus was a Catholic virus.
In the South , they locked down properly the second time and early and for longer . Essential shops were exactly that. Up North, you will find a load of shops still open. Unbelievable how many are now selling essential items but this means they can keep the rest of the shop open as they are selling a few nails and a bit of bed linen in the corner .
Up North they gave a weeks notice before the 2 week lockdown. This explains why the numbers have not dropped here and have in fact risen.
No doubt that both the North and the South will see a rise in cases over and past Christmas. They key difference is that the South has the work done and their rise will be manageable . That will not be the case in the North.  It will be a diaster .

Leadership eh? Whereís the leadership from both shower of pricks, when NINE MONTHS down the line, both jurisdictions still havenít  had joint up thinking on the pandemic?

One opens up, the other shuts, that sort of crap still has repercussions for both areas, especially around border areas. Theyíve had f**king NINE MONTHS!!! Un-f**king-forgivable!!

Do you think the DUP are going to look towards Dublin in terms of the rules and regulations etc?

If so, you're badly misguided.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 04, 2020, 08:03:54 PM »
Chippers down south may be affected as they get their pre-cut chips from the UK.  pretty ironic really.

And why should chippers in the North not be equally affected as they have same food regulations?

Mind you I heard something about the chipper in Cullaville ordering 1000 tonnes of spuds.

Key question is though, where is the fish coming from?

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 03, 2020, 11:49:16 PM »
Lennon was "delighted" with certain aspects tonight and it was of a "high standard"  His press conferences are a farce.

He needs to show a bit of modesty and honestly.  Does he think people are clowns?  Another 4 goals conceded and he's talking about high standards.

How long must this go on for?

It's clear the players were shook up by the scenes outside Celtic Park recently and performed ok for 15 mins....then thought, wtf.

A few fans need to be allowed to attend the team talk before they head out for the next match and read the riot act to them instead of Lennon waffling on.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: December 03, 2020, 08:10:02 PM »
It's getting worse under Lennon.

He can't even get the team to shut up shop and have a clean sheet.

He needs to go.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: November 29, 2020, 10:20:10 PM »
It was ok in the 90s to overthrow the board and have protests week in and week out? So far in this calendar year Iíve spent over £1k of very hard earned money to watch Celtic, fans have every right to go and protest. The board is full of tossers and Lennon has let himself down a bagful by shite talking through interviews. The club has been set back years by this season already. 

If I was in Glasgow, Iíd be protesting to.

Agree.

Everybody saw this coming...apart, it seems, Lennon, Lawell and the board.  They are completely out of touch with public feeling on this.

In their own wee bubble.

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Hurling Discussion / Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« on: November 29, 2020, 05:48:09 PM »
Limerick seem to have another gear in them - just seem to keep teams at arms length.

Good bench also as well as a good range of scorers all over the pitch.

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