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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 03:22:00 PM »
Describing the British Security forces as a community organisation? I'm not so sure myself.
I don't think Galbally would welcome the security forces. Although I would have thought the same about Ardboe and Moortown.
I believe the security forces are using the community issue to their advantage to create this sense of normality.
The same way as they use it in schools.
Some schools bring in the PSNI for various talks. In some cases I know parents who have expressed concern and others who have kept their children at home on the said days.

Lookit, nobody is talking about M15 or the SAS here.

Yes, it is PR for the PSNI.
You are right and i accept and understand the opposition. However, the people of Galbally will phone the PSNI if their club house is burnt down by idiots.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 03:17:41 PM »

Is Dinky a Carmen man or an Omagh man I'm confused?

He's been with Carmen for years but played his youth and at his height with Omagh.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 03:07:20 PM »
Sadly Brolly has twisted this debate. I doubt if the GAA or and Club would approve or disapprove either way of members joining the PSNI. That's not the question nor is it the intention of anyone in a GAA hat. That's a question for the public.
The question here is about building a relationship with the PSNI as two community organisations. The same as relationships are built with others such as County Councils, schools and other sports clubs.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 02:19:35 PM »
Security Forces and the GAA?

In recent times I have seen a lot of PR in relation to the PSNI and the Ulster Council. I see men like Ciaran McLaughlin retweeting British security forces recruitment advertisements and posing for photos with senior members of the PSNI.
I know some local clubs in my own area have been toying with the idea of introducing the British Security Forces into club events and in some cases is has been met with opposition. Is the timing right or is it a bit premature.
How do the grass roots members feel? I know in clubs like Derrytresk and Moortown there has been tension on the subject when club proposed or run events facilitated by the Security Forces,  and just yesterday I was chatting to a very disgruntled Ardboe man who wasn't happy that his club Chairman Paddy O'Neill was pictured with a member of the security forces in a PSNI PR exercise.
Is it acceptable? Or is it not?

I think the timing is right but I know it will be difficult for many. It will be baby steps and might do some short term damage. I suppose it's argued for as a long term gain. I would begrudgingly accept it in a limited form but haven't really decided how limited, it hasn't came up in my club. I like the idea of volunteers doing much of the organizing outside grounds too and would not like to see it replaced like the Gardai do in places. Though a casual PSNI presence might be a good introduction.

The truth is, it's happening as you say. It will have positives. I watched McKaigue interview with Off the Ball and they tinkered around this. That's just another indication that it's real and he stressed Slaughtneil were an open and welcoming club and community . I thought it was a very good interview.

GAA Discussion / Re: Rule changes to improve football
« on: Today at 01:47:10 PM »

All the overcarrying comes from the solo run though - especially if you run very fast.
I'm in favour of keeping it but enforce the steps.

I think the steps rule is enforced as well as it can be. I think if it is to be forced to the letter then it should be increased to 6 steps or tinkered with to allow players to stay on the ball in certain cases.

Maybe if we highlighted sensible use of public services such as patients from the Republic availing of cataract operations in Belfast people might see the advantages of a United country.

Is the pun here intended too?


How's he rewriting anything?

Just because it wasn't reported like it was by RTÉ, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It's semantic satiation.

'Second class citizen' doesn't mean anything anymore. A great victory somewhere.

At the Sinn Fein party conference last week, there was the expected praise for Martin McGuinness.

Yet unionists are upset, that nationalists should honour their dead.

wee link

A couple of weeks ago, the whole country had to stop whilst unionists honoured their fallen heroes. Some people are even shamed into buying poppies.

Is this not the biggest of double standards?

Very few people care. The DUP are not upset about this. The Unionist community are not upset by this.
We look for the DUP and SF to change then we react to every script they hand us as if they really believe it.

It's a common trick. FG TD's regularly talk about IRA victims. They don't give a feck about those victims. We all know it yet we all react as if they are genuine.
There's enough to get upset about without getting upset about the stuff made up to get us upset.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: November 21, 2017, 08:27:05 AM »
While it is possible that we could get a small majority in favour of a United Ireland we would still face the likelihood of a significant minorities who would support a violent response to any change

Not without the support of British Security forces.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 21, 2017, 08:22:27 AM »
I see Mickey s moaning about the international rules series..
again! Then starts bringing up reviving the Railway cup. Is he serious?? Nobody has went to one of them since 19 an 35 lol.

It's due a revival so.

General discussion / Re: British Forces training at Curragh Camp?
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:13:08 PM »
Quote from: johnneycool
Who are the good guys? The ones who ploughed into Iraq without UN approval?

Yip the bad guys have a say, so do the good guys though.

Whichever one suits you at any given time

General discussion / Re: British Forces training at Curragh Camp?
« on: November 18, 2017, 12:15:37 PM »

You are correct. Military non-alignment has merely been a policy. Same as the Triple-Lock. There is a common misconception that they are both in the constitution.

Non-alignment makes a lot of sense, and allows flexibility. The triple-lock however is a pathetic mechanism, which basically says we as a state don't trust ourselves to make our own decisions. Yet, we will allow China and Russia to have a say.

Yip the bad guys have a say, so do the good guys though.

General discussion / Re: British Forces training at Curragh Camp?
« on: November 18, 2017, 12:11:57 PM »

Any objection to the RAF being first responders if Russian aircraft get to close to the Irish coast?

Our paper airplanes wouldn't be much use.

I object because of the stupidity of the excuse rather than on on the grounds that the RAF have access.

General discussion / Re: Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment RTE 2
« on: November 18, 2017, 12:01:07 PM »

He finished second ffs! Great achievement however given the fact Ireland did not win gold should disqualify anyone from winning our greatest sporting moment.

Not to mention the fact that Ireland's greatest sporting moment is as real a competition as big brother.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 16, 2017, 02:21:08 PM »
new tyrone top leaked lastnight with Tyrone Fabrications as the new sponsor, is there a way of uploading a picture to this?

Have you a link?

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