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it's some reflection when Mickey Harte can get them to do something they wouldn't do for their own Mothers.

GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: July 24, 2017, 12:49:52 PM »
What other option had he? If he turned back there was another man behind him, so like so many times he was just stripped of possession. It's tough playing up front on your own. He was getting this abuse all day with the Down full back lucky a few times I felt not to get cards.

I think he needs to lay the ball off quicker. obviously that's not always possible and i don't know if it was possible this time/

GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: July 24, 2017, 11:53:41 AM »
The photo could be misleading but did Cavanagh think he was getting through there?

GAA Discussion / Re: Steps...
« on: July 24, 2017, 10:42:12 AM »

The ball can be knocked from a player's hand at any time so on that basis, and to clamp down on the likes of Johnston, I think the bounce should be deemed to have begun when the ball leaves the hand.

I've been saying for ages that the rule should be changed to three seconds rather than four steps, for the reasons outline above. Three seconds, no interpretation needed.

It's a grey area for sure.
The rule allows for referee discretion without saying that.
It's hard to know the impact a change would have.

GAA Discussion / Re: Steps...
« on: July 24, 2017, 09:45:23 AM »
I couldn't agree more with this. I remember when I was younger going to watch inter county games and being amazed at how many steps the players were being allowed, and it is getting worse. Some referees use the old "its steps or seconds" excuse as reasoning behind it, definitely making defenders life more difficult.

The rule allows for 'time it takes to make 4 steps'.
It is let go too often though.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: June 27, 2017, 03:28:24 PM »

Well I for one welcome these 'leeches' as you describe them jumping on the back of it. However I would like you to point out all these people you state who want their piece of the debate because I don't see too many who have presented an economic vision of how it will look. It has only been with the imposition of Brexit that the debate has been stirred and that also applies to the 2 main nationalist parties in the north. There was barely a credible vision in place before then.   

This is my point. You only see it as a real debate now, post brexit. I've never seen it other than a real debate. McWilliams, Varadkar, The Irish Times, The Irish independent, The, RTE have all been discussing the possibilty since brexit.. And like you I welcome everyone to debate it.

A quick google will find you many pieces on the economics of a United ireland. Most are agenda packed and I'd say unreliable but they are every bit as reliable as the current economic projections facing any western Country or Union of Countries.
They have been ignored for decades by many as the debate has never really been had on a national scale. There is no real economic projection as there are to many coming from different angles. Some left, some right, some pro EU some Anti EU, some nationalist, some unionist etc. Economic projection aren't worth the paper they are written on much like any political manifesto and calls for them are only diversions. Planning, streamlining and integrating are the important factors as that is were the cost is. Other than that it's not as if the two states are that different. For every one difference there are a 1000 things in common.

We all have different views of how this might work but we'll get there.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: June 27, 2017, 02:35:49 PM »
We need the likes of McWilliams to debate the economics of progress as the usual suspects will never achieve anything.

Yes, and I welcome it.

I even welcome those opposed discussing it. there is no chance of Ireland becoming more divided so it can only stay the same or become more united. Debate of all kinds will help this.

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: June 27, 2017, 02:26:24 PM »
Give this another thought? Has it been far away from many GAA fans for the last couple of years?

The question, in my opinion, is too simplistic. Is two tiers enough? Is there much point putting London in the same competition as Armagh?

It's funny to hear Brolly saying that it work if enough respect and attention was given to it. He's the very fella that wouldn't give it two minutes of his time.

I think it would probably fail because most stakeholders would have an apathetic view on it. Maybe with time that would change but at the minute I think (guess) that the majority of GAA people would prefer that their own county remains in the hunt for Sam. The media and the neutral TV viewer are the only groups that would differ, in my opinion.

Keep Sam for the second tier. Sell the naming rights of the top tier.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: June 27, 2017, 02:20:12 PM »

Everyone suddenly wants their piece of the UI debate. Once something can't be denied you see these leeches jumping on the back of it. While this debate has been going on for decades and has always had an inevitable conclusion, history books will point to brexit and leeches like McWilliams as some sort of starting point. Welcome on board at last David.

GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Donegal - Sunday 18th June at 2pm
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:42:28 PM »
Did any of ye at the game see this point that Mark Bradley scored where Peter Harte hit an amazing diagonal ball that curled into Bradley's path. Woolie Parkinson was giving out loads about the BBC coverage showing too much replays and that they didn't see this amazing pass from Harte.
I don't remember it myself but a few are saying its the best pass of the year so far.

I watched it on BBC and the replays took away from a lot of the action so i didn't see it. It was highlighted a lot on social media during and after the game. I don't know if it was a super pass or, a very good pass being used to add more weight to the problem of replays during live coverage.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: June 19, 2017, 03:18:43 PM »
The fact is that Dublin recommended this to its people,as a preferred outcome.This was akin to Britain surrendering to Germany to maintain peace in 1939.

Jimmy Deenihan,a Dublin Govt minister,admitted in a recent tv debate that Irish Unity wasn't affordable

It was also recommended by 3 of the 4 main parties in the north, in London & Washington. No it's not akin to that.

He admitted it in a debate that is on going. Is it Government policy that Unity isn't affordable?

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: June 19, 2017, 12:56:26 PM »
So "McNamee pooped up further up the field a lot."

I'm glad he doesn't shit on his own doorstep  ;D

Would agree with most of your player summaries there though I thought Morgans kick outs were excellent bar one that went over the line.

I think Conal McCann was a bit lost yesterday to be honest and didn't really get into the game.
I'd like to see him do well as I think he's usually good for a few scores.
That is the biggest positive and hope for me that we have a huge amount of players who can kick good points from far out and so we are not over reliant on any one or two players any more. Some say this is our problem that we don't have a clutch player any more but in todays highly defensive systems if your top forwards are held scoreless then if you can't get scores from elsewhere you are in trouble.

I think our FF line now is no longer really used for getting scores. Mattie and Sean mainly play out the field and yesterday Bradley was used to keep two Donegal defenders busy covering his runs while we played ball out the field.

There were times yesterday and other days Pete harte has done that job. If he was wearing 15 on his back he'd be seen as someone who can do a little magic and turn a game. I think it's a case of pundits looking for an excuse to mention Canavan, O'Neill or Muligan than talk about current players.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: June 19, 2017, 10:57:59 AM »
I think that it is worth noting that if Mc Hugh had of buried his gift of a goal, this would have been a very different game.

It's not worth noting that.

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: June 19, 2017, 10:57:17 AM »
Read these words slowly.Over the last 100 years Dublin has done nothing to advocate even for a United Ireland,has rescinded its claim to the North and has admitted that Unity is not affordable.

Dublin's position on a UI is fluid. Dublin did not rescind it's claim for a UI. The claim was rescinded by the people through referendum with the prospect of an end to armed conflict as a result. It's a very narrow argument to make. Are you are leaving out context to make it easier for you to arrive at the wrong place?
 Where is there an admission that unity is not affordable? As far as I'm aware it's still an on going debate.

GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Donegal - Sunday 18th June at 2pm
« on: June 19, 2017, 08:53:25 AM »
Why does Thomas Kane/Niblock say Hampshey for Hampsey. Whass that about hi

It's the influence of Irish where the 'se' sound is 'sh'. Not uncommon.

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