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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:49:53 PM »
Lot of ill informed hysteria here. It's two rounds of games played within 8 days added to the calendar that's already there. To listen to some posters here hurling has been disbanded, clubs have to play all their games Christmas week and Paraic Duffy is more interested in partying with Jay Z than helping the GAA.

At the very least, this is worth giving a go and unlike the pessimistic soothsayers claims here we can actually re Jew and change it in 2020.

Reductio ad absurdum rather than make a point makes it seem like you have a weak argument.

I wonder why they would propose this? The major thing here is more games for top teams for no reason other than to have more games for top teams. What would be the motivation behind that? Could it be sponsorship or TV deals? If so then is this not a genuine reason to be concerned?

General discussion / Re: Dup will never allow Irish language act
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:40:14 PM »

There you go,Ciaran says No,or should that be nil?

What is the background to this guy? He sounds like another Conor Cruise O'Brien or a male version of Ruth Dudley Edwards.

The constanst referrals to his faith seem to define him.

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:36:30 PM »
Could there now be the split between club and county.
I'm surprised at the gpas position, how did this pass without a secret support even on their side. How many county boards supported this.
 This can lead to professionalism quicker.
Will grassroots ignore the county gravy train and attendances fall.
Could be an interesting few years.

There already is a split, it just hasn't been given a name.

I know that I have on occasion been quite happy to see my county team fail to progress. Now there will be times I hope they don't win a Provincial championship or go a distance in the qualifiers.
I think the CPA will react strongly. If only to strngthen themselves. This is the GAA creating a monster they will have to meet head on soon.

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 01:57:13 PM »
Lads, is this the long con that explains the ongoing relationship with SKY?
Hard to see why they'd be bothered otherwise.
Multiple games running concurrently at the business end of the championship.
They'll be given a big chunk of them to cover, probably with first refusal once they see the match-ups.

Yes, there is only one reason to make these changes. More games at peak times with the bigger Counties. Although it's not only Sky. Not only that but SKY money is your money and the money sucked out of small publicans at extortion rates across small towns and villages. There's also the massive companies that sponsor the top teams. Vodafone, Kerrygroup etc. They all want as much return as possible on their investment. And the GAA have provided.

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 12:24:17 PM »
Jases lads calm down!!
We have 3 years to come up with a better system and lobby/promote it for Congress 2020.

3 years is a long time in a club players life. It's time enough to start a career, find a partner, get married and have a child. 3 years is life changing and anyone thinking about giving the next 3 years of their lives to club football will be thinking very hard about it.

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:54:36 AM »
I cannot understand how so many counties voted for this?

What have they been promised in return?
eg Leitrim, Longford, Antrim, Fermanagh, Wicklow, Carlow, Waterford, Limerick, Kilkenny, Louth, Sligo, Westmeath, Offaly

Maximum coverage for our major sponsors. Remember, we are dealing with the same companies that sponsor FIFA tournaments.

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:41:43 AM »
Motion passed

The fun only begins now.
Let's see if this CPA has any teeth.

GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
« on: February 25, 2017, 10:01:26 AM »

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.

Yes, it's massive.
Is it true that the St VIncents players all took the week preceding their All Ireland final off work to help prepare? Who could finance that?

GAA Discussion / Re: New President John Horan
« on: February 25, 2017, 09:47:40 AM »
😁😁.Another argument against Irish unity! Personalised number plates!

HP sauce is still the Unionist best card.

General discussion / Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« on: February 23, 2017, 12:46:05 PM »

As for Brexit, you're right, it could and hopefully will, backfire on them big time ..

Be careful what you wish for. Regardless if they get punished, we're all in this together now and a backfire is on us all.

General discussion / Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« on: February 23, 2017, 08:56:01 AM »
I know someone pooh poohed it, but all the issues come down to Unionists failure to embrace change, to cling to outdated notions of British superiority and a denial of equality. For example on education their insistence on testing at 11 despite the detrimental effect on their own voters. Obsession over flags etc... Nothing will change until that all changes.

Unionists supported by both Governments have always claimed it was Republicans that needed to change. It's understandable why they have held that line. Unionists today are a product of the great success of consecutive British and Irish governments. Even today, in Dublin in particular, John Hume is the Hero of peace. This is deny any credit of changes made by Republicans and credit the middle man from the Nationalist community. There is no such person credited from the Unionist side as there was no change demanded from Uionnists

General discussion / Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« on: February 23, 2017, 08:47:17 AM »
And therein lies the problem.....caused by people who don't understand PR .

No it isn't. This was an electoral strategy by SF and people who understand PR not the lack of understanding by the voter.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 18, 2017, 01:58:03 PM »

I agree that Trump is playing to his audience but how would you expect the media to cover the press conference last Thursday?? As if it was just a run of the mill press conference?

I didn't see it. Yeah it's almost impossible to act any other way. THat's my point about it being addictive, or car crash, we just can't help ourselves.
I remember when x factor come out all the Radio DJs and musicians would lambast it and the results would then be covered on the news. We couldn't get enough.
Once the X FActor is over and the winners face the real industry they can't handle it. The bluster is over and they're judged as musicians. Then they crash out. I think Trump is similar to this.

There will be a time that Trump is dealing in politics. That's when he'll be found out.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 18, 2017, 08:30:51 AM »
SNL don't need to work on any sketches this week. They can just rerun the press conference.

Sure, but this is the exact same attitude by most media forms as there was during the Republican Primaries and the Election.
The Irish media are still giving Trump the same credit as prior to the election.
They were all wrong then, yet they are doing the same thing.
Fighting Trump on his ground doesn't work. If everyone treats him like a Paris Hilton type buffoon he'll mop the floor with ye. SNL are only feeding the beast.
A big problem is that most media outlets want the type of coverage Trump provides despite it's counter effect. It's like an addiction, you can't get enough of the thing that's killing you.
Trump should e treated as the PoUSA, a politician in the traditional sense. That's a battle I think he doesn't have the heart for.

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