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Despicable antics from Dan McCartan yesterday, stamping on a man whilst he is on the ground, if he done that to a man on the street he would be arrested, what he done can not be compared to McKeever  tap on Clarke in the last match.

Great win for Armagh and to beat them when it matters more and in front of the whole country at Croker was even better.

Still livid that, that third rate county beat us in Newry no doubt if the ref had not have sent Finn Mo off we would have went on to win.

Down are still in our shadow.

Agree with that team pat, except I would put Vernon and Toner in MF as I think that will be our MF come championsip.


Stick Donaghy and have McKeever cover the area in front of him off and we should we meeting Down in Croker.

[who use under hand tactics when the going gets tough?]

Of all them examples you have so brilliantly listed could you honestly say any of them have a reputation as dirty players who use under hand tactics when the going gets tough?

James McCartan admitted to deliberately assaulting the Westmeath player, and looking at any of those incidents that I listed it is hard to say that none of them were deliberate. And as a matter of fact in each of the incidents that I listed, with the exception of the Westmeath game, Down or Mayobridge were losing, so the going was tough.

Just Anto Duffy.

Again after the actions of Ward and McCartan in previous years are anything to go by Down are in no position to criticise Armagh about violent conduct or discipline.

As well as the Down players elbow on Saturday past, you could mention Martin Cole's horrendous forearm smash on Davy Harte in 2008.

Or perhaps you could also mention Luke Howards late, deliberate body check on Stephen Kernan in 2008 as well.

Or what about Benny Coulter getting sent off for violent conduct v St Galls in 2005.

Judging by this thread you would think Down are a shower of Angels. Maybe Down fans should look closer to home before they go on about McKeever. On another note about time Down beat a 14 man Armagh team as they could not manage it in 08.

Armagh are better than Antrim, and I would not classify Monaghan, Derry or Down above Armagh until they win some championship silverware.

How is it a poor attempt?

Yes that incident happened nine years ago but there are other examples of dirty, cynical Down play such as wee James assaulting the Westmeath player. 

I think Wards actions 9 years ago were alot worse than McKeevers, I do think that standing on someones jaws is a lot worse that a hit on the ribs.

I said it was bad, but I remember clearly that Wards stamp in 2001 was brushed under the carpet and was not mentioned in the media, just reminding all Down fans of what some of their own have done in the past before they start complaining about McKeever.

It was bad but does not compare to Sean Ward stamping on Oisin's jaw in 2001.

Alot of people are talking about who from Armagh is going to mark Marty Clarke but I am very confident that  Ciaran McKeever will keep him quiet and McKeever is a beast of a man and should match Clarke physically.

On the other hand none of Down's backs are good enough to mark Steven McDonnell, who has had a field day v Down every time he has played them.

Congratulations to St Gall's, still can't stop thinking that if Clarkey had of taken that chance in our game that we would be in Croke Park yesterday.

Is there a bigger inter-county rivalry between the fans than Armagh/Down?

Obviously not on the field as Armagh win all the the time

Armagh 0:10
Monaghan 0:08

Pearse Og 2:15
Monaghan Harps 0:08