but don't all counties go through years of famine Kerry went 11 years, Kilkenny from 1983 to 2000 only won 3 hurling titles and in 2000 Cody was going for 3 in a row of defeats, Tipp the same not a lot in the last 30 years, Galway in hurling 3 wins in near a century. We could go on and on but at the end of the day whether you have tradition or not if a good bunch of players comes together at the same time and with the right guidance anthing should be possible.