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brilliant article.

I know a fair few ex-club players who've been in a similar state as Bernard Flynn and they got no phonecalls off GAA presidents or GPA officials or interviews with Sunday newspapers

Dessie Farrell has been trying to ring them but their phones are always engaged because of one belief/county board are on to them the whole time sorting out their medical bills/insurance   

what ya reckon??

come on now RnB, where was paul when cavan played fermanagh?? so what if he was in america playing handball... As i understand it he makes it clear to the management team at the start of the year about when he will and will not be available, (of course you weren't in there doing stats last november when paul met with the management team so you mightn't be privy to that information,) and if they dont want him to join the panel then he will not do so, so dont come on here crying about his first love... If Sean Johnston had made the international rules panel last year the county board were going to put back the county final to accomodate that achievement, now we have a player who is captaining his countrys team at a world championships and you equate that to killygarry having a player injured...   

didn't Paul Casey play 8 years in a row with DCU. apparently he had to get a special dispensation to play in his final year because a rule was brought in saying you can only play 7 years of sigerson without advancing, so technically for him to have played in his 8th year he should have been doing a Masters and not an undergraduate degree, but since he did 2 four year undergraduate degrees, 1st in business and then in sports science, he found himselg doing inot his 8th year of university and still and under grad. reckon he must be close to the record anyway.


Does anybody know the Sigerson all star/Hot Shot team for 2009??

I know it was announced during the week but i cant find it anywhere online.
One of the 15 places is awarded to a trench cup player and the rest are carved up among the sigerson players who competed in the competition that year.
Just curious to see the breakdown of who got awards!

[0-3 from play and conceding a couple of frees is poor enough in my opinion.]

ok Celt_Man, fair enough, i was just making reference to this point

And again... A quick trawl online shows that McDonnell scored (0-6, 0-2 frees), 0-1 "45" in that game. 0-3 from play and conceding a couple of frees is poor enough in my opinion.

dont remember him conceding those frees.

i wouldn't be a prolific poster on this board, more an avid reader but when i see something i disagree with i'll throw my hat into the ring. I'd be a big cavan supporter, haven't missed a league or championship game since 2004, which includes 2 trips to waterford (05 & 07) where there were less than 30 of us down there, and 2 trips to tipperary whose pitch in ardfinnan i swear is actually further away from cavan than waterfords, so i feel like i can talk confidently on form displayed by various cavan players over the last half decade anyway...

agreed on the fannin thing, dont think he got a fair deal from keoghan, think it all stems from the time he conceded 4 pts from play against mattie forde inside the first 20 mins in a league match in breffni parkr, heard afterwards that keoghan never really gave him a fair chance after that. (incidentally i remember him being replaced by hannon after 25 minutes or so, who kept forde completely out of the game thereafter.)


on a differetn subject walsh takes abuse he definitely doesnt deserve, always feel he's underapreciated, might not be the most technically gifted footballer int he world, but has great athleticism, can nullify an opponent, and can think his way around a pitch, hope time proves me right on that last assertion 

Sorry Drung,i have to say i disagree, Coulter scored both goals on Gunner that day,i remember it well

You obviously don't remember it that well because Coulter only scored one goal that day...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cavan-smash-and-grab-669705.html

Embarrassing.

What else do you remember well, as a matter of interest??!

Coulter scored one goal on Brady, set up another goal a few minutes later, and had set up a goal chance a few seconds earlier that was badly missed by daniel hughes... this all in the first 2o mins or so

heres a quote from that article

Cavan were guiltier of even wilder shooting from further out, with 9 to 6 wides by the break, but their big worry was one which has bamboozled many a team: how to stop the brilliant Coulter?

Michael Hannon provided the solution. Coulter was far less accurate and dangerous once he was switched onto him after 21 minutes and, under pressure, shot three wides in the second half.

and here are the cavan players ratings from that same article


CAVAN -  J Reilly 7; P Brady 5. E O'Reilly 6, M Cahill 6; M Hannon 8, A Ford 6, R Flanagan 6; D McCabe 9, L Mulvey 5; R Cullivan 6, M McKeever 6, L Reilly 7; J O'Reilly 6, G Pierson 8, S Johnston 7.  Subs: M Lyng 8 for Cullivan (42 mins), C Mackey 7 for Johnston (50), N Walsh 6 for Mulvey (55), S Brady 7 for Pierson ( 61), J Crowe 7 for Brady (63).


so according to the paper he was, along with lyng who was a second half substitute and pierson, cavans best player after dermot mcCabe that day.

you obviously dont like the guy celt_man. is this a cootehill v drumgoon tribal thing? Steven McDonnell is armagh free taker, he takes the frees regardless of who gets fouled, so now you're blaming him for all the fouls that get committed? i always thought that was one of hannons best attributes, that he doesnt give up frees...

and in light of what i've found out about how he's been playing injured for the last 2-3 years requiring a couple of operations to fix the problem i only have more respect for the man.

you still never came up with an alternaitve Celt_Man???

Cavan have to play sheridan full back, and give him 4-5 games to get comfortable in there, hannon beside him when he's fit and recovered, and then depending on the opposition Either brides or Dunne will slot in.

Some of our players put in great performances in the Sigerson Cup last week. Martion Reilly scored 2-3 for DIT. Seanie Johnstone 0-6 for DCU. Cullivan got 0-3 and Flanagan got a point or two.

its good to see so many of the cavan lads doing well at this level. a brother of one of the dublin lads on the DIT panel was asking me about hannon... came as news to me but apparently he is over them? good to see that too.


anyway, based on the polar opinions of these two, Ballyhaiseman Vs Celt_Man

Posted on: February 20, 2009, 06:02:25 PMPosted by: BallyhaiseMan

Full Back come the championship will be Michael Hannon id imagine, Podge and Dunne just dont have the burst of speed at IC level for the position.

Posted on: February 20, 2009, 06:23:42 PMPosted by: Celt_Man
I really don't see it but a lot of people seem to think that Michael Hannon is our best defender... Where has that come from??

it got me thinking... if you could only pick 1 defender on the cavan panel to play in the full back line... who would you pick?
now i know i've already said that Sheridan and Hannon should be in the fullback line come championship but that was based on them having great games and a very good partnership in the qualifier match against kildare, if i could only pick one sheridan would probably lose out based on his relative lack of experience, but i really think this guy could be our francie bellew in a few years. and i mean that as a compliment, He's not the best player in the world but from what i've heard his attitude is top class. Francie didnt really start playing intercounty untill he was 25/26 so b4 anyone starts hounding on about this being ridiculous give sheridan time to develop.


so BHman, Celt_Man et al? lets be having it from you??  will anyone pick podge i wonder? 


and just to finish off, the calls for tommy carr to go are ridiculous. 2 games? if you were an intercounty manager how much time with your panel do you think you should be given before getting the chop, and no the Mckenna cup dont count since the college based lads are not around!!!

give the man a chance, even keoghan got 2 years ffs!!!!

Posted by: RednBlack

Cavan vs Tipperary - F Reilly, M Brides, P Reilly, M Hannon, M Cahill, P Brady, J Crowe, C Galligan, N Walsh, E Reilly, R Flanagan, C Mackey, M Reilly, D Givney, G Pierson

wher'd you get that team from?

Hannon had a big operation on his groin around Christmas time and I think is able to start jogging again in the next couple of weeks.  I believe he is another of the likely lads whose form will be monitored by the county set up.

i believe it was actually his second operation in a year, someone close to the panel told me he's been in trouble with his groin for the last 2 years, apparently he wasn't really able to train last year at all, and only played the games at the weekends. I heard he'd failed a few times trying to come back from this latest operation, but that things have been going better for him these past few weeks. Even still, despite his injury trouble i thought himself and Dermot Sheridan were excellent against kildare last year in the championshp, only to be badly let down by the half back line, and an out of sorts midfield (that is untill walsh came on, and flanagan moved back in the 2nd half.) Would like to see these two in there again at some stage this year, partnerships and a good understanding among colleagues can be just as important as individual talent when it comes to getting a solid functioning fullback line.

Why what did Sherlock do? Didn't catch him at anything?Huh

he was throwing punches in the 2nd half. ref gave him a yellow, when he should've given him a red.

The Ref should have sent off the Dublin midfielder but stopped when he realised he had booked him already.The chances are if it was Eddie or Gaynor they would have walked.

he should have sent off sherlock too.

When McCabe was moved in to full forward the players didn't give it into him except for the time he got the shot on goal. Twice Michael Hannon went on long runs with the ball only stopping when he hit a wall of light blue. Surely the idea would have been to hit McCabe when he was in there.

Eh... didn't hannon hit mcCabe with the ball at the end of one of those runs, that set up mcCabe for the goal chance???

Anthony forde tried to hit McCabe as well then from the terrace side of the pitch but its near impossible to retain possession lobbing a ball into one man at full forward when the opposition have loads of men behind the ball if its too short they mop it up, too long its the full backs ball. Add in the fact that the gael force wind had started blowing the other direction by the time Keoghan moved McCabe in full forward and it only makes it more difficult, and then theres the added fact that McCabe wasn't exactly moving like kieran donaghy on saturday night if you know what i mean.

when teams drop men back you have to run at them!! or else let it in early, but at the same time you can't force it in if its not on.
An example of this was the pass McCabe kicked in the 2nd half when he was still in midfield, from near his own 45 metre line with ronan flanagan (i think) coming off his shoulder. he tried to find seanie johnston and it was intercepted easily.

agree that james reilly could do with a few variety tricks on his kicking resume.

much better performance tonight. couldn't believe the wind changed direction in the second half!!!! Lyng was superb in the first half, instrumental in us leading 5pts to 1. thought when mcCabe and Forde started kicking stupid ball (Forde) or Ridiculously long ball (McCabe) we started losing our grip on the game. Flanagan makes some difference to the team. In fairness to Cavan they seemed to have worked on alot of things tactically speaking, on their game since the monaghan match. I wonder who has started calling the shots?? If my sources are correct Keoghan is empowering the players!! and my sources are always correct ha ha (jaysus don't i sound like a mafioso type now)

this is hilarious... the anti GPA continigent can't seem to reconcile that Dessie Farrell, who is entitled to harbor full blown professionalism for the gaa if he so wants privately, must act in accordance with the wishes of the group he represents. ie IC players, or the majority of them anyway if GPA membership figures are accurate. Dessie Farrell IS NOT the GPA.

People who are anti-professionalism, are anti GPA and anti Dessie Farrell,  but they're not the same thing.

[DIT to win the competition]

Excellent game if a bit sloppy. DIT to win the competition. Vernon being unfit was fatal. Poly won it from the bench.

how do you make that out corn02???

I'd have Cork IT favourites, with UUJ next. UUJ are littered with county players, been looking through the DIT team and apart from Vaughan Ward and Kilcoyne they look relatively unknown.

CIT are playing Garda, UL are playing GMIT in the other quater final. CIT are playing at home I think and UL/GMIT is on in the Gaelic Grounds. All games are throwing in at 2pm.

thanks zulu

didn't realise jordanstown were so strong, Are they're becoming the new dcu with the way they're recruited players?? the lads from sligo IT for example. McCommiskey is a class act too, they are probably favourites to win it out i'd say.

Predictions
QUB Vs Jtown    Jtown by 2
Tralee Vs DIT     DIT by 2
CIT vs Garda      CIT by 3
UL vs GMIT        haven't got a clue.


don't know who plays who in the semis but if Cit and Jtown are on opposite sides of the draw i'd fancy them to meet in the final. CIT are very strong too this year.