Quote from: whitey on December 20, 2025, 01:11:40 PMQuote from: J70 on December 20, 2025, 12:50:35 PMQuote from: whitey on December 19, 2025, 02:30:42 PMQuote from: J70 on December 19, 2025, 01:37:55 PMQuote from: whitey on December 19, 2025, 11:30:10 AMQuote from: J70 on December 19, 2025, 02:05:27 AMQuote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 10:19:10 PMQuote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PMQuote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.
The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.
But they're not
There are 4 Irish born people in my town
2 of us are moderate Republicans
1 is hard core MAGA
1 is a Democrat
The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.
The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)
I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.
I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.
The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.
In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".
Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.
But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.
And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.
So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job
Including swing voters who voted for Obama twice and Biden once
So... you're not disputing that the GOP is a far right Christian nationalist personality cult then?
And yeah, the Dems fucked it up, specifically on immigration and allowing Biden to press on with his deluded attempt to get a second term.
They can recover from that.
Where does the GOP go from here? Will the charlatans, the fascists, the bigots and the conspiracy theorists be thrown to the wolves? Or is the likes of Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens the future as it currently appears?
I think that's nonsense
Based on my experience, people are voting against the Democrats and by default are voting for the Republican.
Union guy I've mentioned before. Up at 430 AM, out the door at 5.....starting work in Boston at 6:30 for a utilities company. Down in a manhole up to his oxters in $hite in all types of weather.
Try Explaining to him why he's paying for illegals or for student loan forgiveness for college graduates with useless majors
Oh boo hoo. We all work hard and are up early and pay taxes for things we don't agree with. Is your union pal upset at Trump Jr's drone company getting a massive government contract? Or the literal billions Ivanka's husband is pulling in as Arab governments throw money his way to buy access and influence with Trump? Trump getting a free jet from the Qataris? Billionaires footing the bill for the White House ballroom in return for...? I'll bet he was upset over Hunter Biden.
As for defaulting to the GOP...
1. There are GOP politicians who are not corrupt, bigoted fascists like Trump. The defaulters could have voted for any of them.
2. The GOP MAGA base DOES want Trump. They are racist and fascist themselves and love his racism and fascism. MAGA entails about a third of the country. If the defaulters decide that student loan forgiveness or emergency care for illegals is a worse sin then Trump's corrosive effect on the US and the world, then either they're not paying attention or their moral compass needs some serious realignment.
LOL
And there you have it ladies and gentlemen
This is exactly what the elite of the Democratic Party think of the average working person
Shut your fvcking mouth and listen to us because we know better than you
That's really going to win him back
If you were down in a manhole for an 12 hour overnight shift in the middle of a Boston winter you might have a different view
And that post right there, boys and girls that is exactly why 77,000,000 people voted for Trump
Over and out
If I were down in a Boston manhole in the middle of the night I'd be fuming over student loan forgiveness and feeling glad that I voted for the man who is now terrorizing and abducting brown people, sending some of them to violent foreign gulags, f**king up the US economy and trade with brain dead tariffs, taking a flamethrower to public and environmental health, trying to hide the fact that he is all over the very same Epstein scandal that he himself leveraged in his favour for years, and so on and on???
It's telling that you haven't addressed a single point. The only thing that matters to you apparently is that pointing out the inconsistencies and flawed logic of supporting Trump is supposedly arrogant and condescending to the delicate constitutions of the working heroes who "default" to or form the basis of the MAGA movement.
My auld lad was a union carpenter in NYC for years, then returned to farming in Donegal. He despised GW Bush and if he were around today would have had nothing but disgust and contempt for a man like Trump. I've worked in plenty of literally shit jobs myself, and still have days in my current one when I'm also down manholes and other less than ideal environments. But because I vote the wrong way and take the time to put forward what I hope are logical opinions, I'm elitest.
What a pile of bollocks.
Over and out indeed.
And this post lays out exactly why Trump got elected and why 77,000,000 voted for him (and Vance has a great chance of getting elected in 2028)
If Biden (and border Czar Kamala) had done their jobs on the border, Trump would NEVER have gotten re-elected.....Im convinced of that
But when I pointed out years ago that there was a "de facto open borders" policy in place and that it was going to cause huge problems down the road, you (and others on here) attacked me like savages
https://youtu.be/Y8Ef-wAZAUQ?si=DOEl_688U3dFDseV
You keep making this statement and I still have no clue how exactly my posts "show exactly why 77 million people voted for Trump".
You're free (yet again) to clarify it, but that nonsense aside...
The economy was the biggest reason Biden and then Harris had a losing hand. A global inflationary bubble that was mainly due to the pandemic and which was well on the way to being brought under control by the time of the election, but them's the breaks when you're president.
Immigration was a major own goal for Biden, as I've already said multiple times.
None of that explains or excuses the choice of Trump as the GOP candidate. He is a corrupt, morally bankrupt, unmanly, incompetent, deluded, unintelligent, narcissistic, sociopathic, sex-offending racist. He was effectively dead and buried in 2022 after the midterms. De Santis was riding high, and there were various other choices available. Any of those could and would have been tough on immigration and probably done a fairly sensible job of managing the continuing economic recovery from the pandemic.
But the white grievance base wanted their racist, "tells it like it is" hero back at the top to dish out vengeance against all the minorities, gays, and atheists, as well as "elite" scientists and doctors and "experts" who have the gall to do their jobs and
So the rationalizing of Trump and "it's all the Dems' fault" nonsense just doesn't fly. Those fuckwits wanted this and they're enjoying the racist spectacle while trying to curry special favours when the moronic economic policies hit them personally.