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The parallels with 1930's Germany are scary.

It's definitely heading that way.

Not only with ICE, but with his Lebensraum program now escalating with Greenland.

There are a few boys on here who assured us all that it made no difference whether Trump OR Kamala was elected, each was/would be equally as bad.

I wonder how many votes her pro Israel/genocide stance cost her?

Mad to say that someone backing a genocide would be by far the lesser of two evils but it's being proven to be the case. Has an journalist ever asked Trump which 8 wars he ended?

It cost her a fair few votes and probably one state for sure (she lost Michigan, with its 250K Muslims, by 80K votes). Hope the morons who abstained or, unbelievably, voted for Trump instead over Gaza are happy. Maybe they are with Putin now invited to join oversight of the "reconstruction".

The parallels with 1930's Germany are scary.

It's definitely heading that way.

Not only with ICE, but with his Lebensraum program now escalating with Greenland.

There are a few boys on here who assured us all that it made no difference whether Trump OR Kamala was elected, each was/would be equally as bad.

Usual story. Five minutes of pressure from the opposition leading to a soft goal, totally inept in front of goal, then just labouring side to side.

New manager bounce.. away to Arsenal next, hammering session there

Really?

Liverpool got a comfortable draw away to Arsenal last week and they currently have little of the fast break fluidity that United can sometimes pull together in these games.

United big issues, like Liverpool's, are labouring against the low block teams.

Is that real?

But again, when are you going to be directly addressing someone as "them"?

It will either be their name or "you".

And just there, in that previous sentence, I used "their' in a perfectly traditional manner to refer to a single third person.

I'd be amazed if Klopp went there. Mega-charismatic and amiable he may be, but he rules with an iron fist. Can't see how he'd be compatible with that egomaniacal dressing room.

It doesn't outrage me at all but 'them' is not a person's name..
Them is a pronoun that refers to more than one person... how can one person be 'them'?
With it all I mean for practical reasons not that religious fundamentalism?
Teacher pointing at students: 'you-you-you and them, stand up!'

That doesn't make any sense.

They/them is used instead of she/her or he/him, not you.

I haven't a problem calling someone by their chosen name, but a pronoun such as 'them' when it is a singular person in front of me, no way.

Why? What difference does it make to you? I don't understand the reason someone would choose pronouns for themselves but who am I to say they shouldn't just because I am content with how I'm addressed? And if using a different word makes life easier for them and makes sh1te all difference to me, why would I choose to not do that?

We all call people things they want us to call them.

Every single one of us knows a Paddy, Marty, Jim, Des and so on.

When did Ms instead of Miss or Mrs start?

When you are talking about them, say them, not he or she.

It takes more effort to be outraged.

And that's why it's beggars belief that this Burke fuckwit is indulged. He's a grandstanding bigot out for attention. Perhaps the press should stop giving it to him.

Be interested to know the details of part (2)...
He certainly likes to grandstand!

Widely available, for years now, if you cared to look.

Strangly usually had better things to do. If it's anything like the family's performances in court and other public places is well away from children.
As for calling one person they... not in a hundred years would I do it. If a man decides he's a woman, 'she' no bother but 2 persons for 1 individual is taking the p*ss.. not even possible.
Although I think God claimed to be 3 persons in 1 🤷

And people who feel they don't fall neatly into male or female?

Leaving aside your views (whatever they are) on transsexuality, in what way are you being inconvenienced or damaged by using someone's preferred pronouns? Is it not a matter of simple politeness and respect?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/10/why-it-makes-no-difference-if-you-sack-the-manager/


transformative managers are rare. Barring the occasional exception like Jürgen Klopp at Liverpool, clubs appointing a new manager in mid-season are fishing in a pool of the mediocre and the unemployed. Twenty First Group finds that just two per cent of coaches meaningfully improve a team's underlying performance over the long term.

In June, Tottenham paid Brentford £10m to recruit Thomas Frank as manager. Only six months later, Spurs are reportedly considering paying £20m to sack Frank. One explanation is that Frank has suddenly morphed from an outstanding coach into a mediocre one. Another one is more compelling: Frank's results largely reflect the quality of the structure around him.

Thomas Frank worked wonders at Brentford largely because of the quality of the structure around him, something he is lacking at Spurs Credit: Getty Images/Robin Jones

Frank's departure from Brentford after seven successful years prompted fears about how the club would fare under Keith Andrews, their former set-piece coach who had never been a head coach. Instead, Brentford now lie in fifth, nine places above Spurs. Predictions that Brighton and Hove Albion would struggle after Graham Potter and then Roberto De Zerbi left proved equally ill-founded.

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Whether in the success of Brentford and Brighton, or the continued underperformance of Tottenham and United, managers reflect the quality of the institutions around them. Twenty First Group shows that the correlation between how an individual head coach performs when he moves clubs is far weaker than the correlation between how one coach at a club performs and his successor. To gauge how well a coach will fare in his new job, the best predictor is how well his predecessor performed.

The urge to sack managers ignores an unpalatable truth: underperforming clubs' problems extend far beyond the manager alone. In the 13 years since Ferguson's departure, Manchester United fans have repeatedly learnt this bitter truth.

In addition to the club structure, there is also the match between the coach and the players and even fans. What works at one club will not necessarily with another, outside of the rare geniuses like Ferguson, Pep, Klopp, Cruyff, Shankly etc. There are so many variables that go into it that apart from those type of men, there are no guarantees of improvement, never mind success.

Xabi Alonso did an amazing job at Leverkusen and looks to have the makings of an elite coach for years to come, but again, there's no guarantee. He just got fired by Real Madrid where his hand's on, drill-them-like-f**k approach didn't gel with superstar player power and influence. Just not a good match, unlike someone like Ancellotti who invites much more player input.

I haven't a problem calling someone by their chosen name, but a pronoun such as 'them' when it is a singular person in front of me, no way.

In that scenario would you not be using the pronoun "you" when talking to them?

How, and where is this going to end?

That family won't ever stopped. Any semblance of support they have/had is gone..

It's a family of severe Autism problems

I see Enoch got released today. Judging by the amount of stuff he had out with him he seems to have gathered a lot of stuff since November. Given that he'll probably be back behind bars before the middle of next week it would have been handier if he'd left some of it behind him

I agree with the point Enoch is trying to make, however the way he and his family are going about it is wrong. Just making complete t*ts of themselves now.

What is that point?

Being told he has to call a child them is going against his religious beliefs. Thats the point.

f**k him.

It has no impact on him whatsoever if he has to use good manners at work and address someone by their chosen name or pronoun. He's just a bigoted, deluded fuckwit with a superiority and a persecution complex looking to grandstand.

Stand for election if you want to get support for your cause that badly. Leave the political shit at home when you go to work.

Isn't using the moon as a staging post part of the long term Mars plan.

Yes, that is what I thought the whole point of Artemis is. A test and practice project to see if a manned Mars mission could be feasible.

Szoboszlai, what a knob.

He should be fined a week's wages for that.

Complete arrogance and utter disrespect for the opponent which let a team with nothing to lose back into a game which his team had just got comfortable in.