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Footage of Russia dropping cluster munitions on the centre of Kyiv last night. Deliberate murder of civilians.

https://x.com/frontlinekit/status/1934937372027752466?s=46

Odesa today:

https://x.com/lyla_lilas/status/1934874436542636348?s=46

The work of Russia, aided and abetted by Iran.

Meanwhile, the Taco won't SELL air defence capability to Ukraine and thinks Russia should still be in the G7 group.

Must blow the minds of some of the closet Russia/Iran fanboys on here. To be on the same side as Trump.

Their son is buried in the rubble:

https://x.com/iuliiamendel/status/1934876692926837017?s=46

For those of you that have a sneaking regard for Russia - hang your heads in shame. You know who you are.

A direct hit by a Russian-Iranian drone on an apartment block this morning.

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1934885600827437290?s=46

A reminder that the murder of Ukrainian civilians continues day in - day out by Russia, aided and abetted by Iran.

For those of you that have a sneaking regard for Russia - hang your heads in shame. You know who you are.

Isnt't there a Ukraine thread?

If Irish pro-Palestinians have some inexplicable desire to make comparisons and downplay Russia murder and violence in this thread then you'll get chat about Russia and Ukraine.

Can we please keep all chat about Iran out of the Israel-Hamas thread as well please - to keep the pedants happy.

Purged of its love for Bandera, haha

You made a statement and you cant back it up. Just like general lee who has now disappeared.

Oh by the way.. while you lads were sleeping peacefully in your beds last night

https://x.com/maria_avdv/status/1934834804937166977?s=46

Incorporating neo-nazi AZOV into the national guard is pretty nutty to be fair

Sure, purging the Azov Brigade of its far right elements and incorporating it into the National Giard as a regiment to allow greater oversight sure is a crazy thing to do.

Next!

Lots of nonsense to unpack there.

'infinitely worse' - you're a perfect example of one of those I mentioned who downplay Ukrainian suffering. A lot of this goes on with Palestinian supporters.

I'm not downplaying anything, the Ukraine war is between two corrupt  countries led by utter nutjobs. Russia is of course wrong to have invaded. What Russia is doing is not on the same level as Israel though.

Ah, a variation on the old 'two sides are as bad as each other' argument. Equating the victim with the aggressor.

All you're doing is demonstrating that you're a complete ignoramus.

In what way is Volodymyr Zelenskyy a 'nut job'? Let's hear it.

Ukrainian corruption is nowhere near the scale of Russian corruption. Again equating the victim with the aggressor. Ukraine is actively working to root out corruption whereas Russia, well it's pretty much a Mafia state. Also, the EU Accession agreement that Russian puppet Yanukovych torpedoed required Ukraine to stamp out corruption.

You're lazy, ignorant and clueless and with the arrogant confidence that usually accompanies such traits.

So Zelenskyy is a nut job.. present your case.

p.s. if you're going to say what Russia is doing is not on the same level as Israel, you need to explain your reasoning.

Don't think I'd fancy being up in an airliner anywhere near the ME at the min. I'm sure it's a long way off, but still..

https://x.com/caolanreports/status/1934530669881041033?s=46

Lots of nonsense to unpack there.

'infinitely worse' - you're a perfect example of one of those I mentioned who downplay Ukrainian suffering. A lot of this goes on with Palestinian supporters. I'm not sure what the motivation is - do you resent Ukraine for not rolling over and dying or is it the help they've received that you resent? Either way, Ukrainian lives and suffering clearly don't matter to you.

I haven't seen the quote you refer to but I would hazard a guess that it was made to highlight the ridiculousness of the Russian claim to be coming to the rescue of 'ethnic Russians'. (They killed them in reality).

What is the relevance of the perceived 'ethnicity' of those that Russia murdered in Mariupol to your argument? Why have you followed that statement with that emoji? Do their lives not count if they were 'ethnic Russian'? What makes you think 'ethnic Russians' want to be part of a shithole like Russia and not keep their relatively comfortable and peaceful lives in Ukraine? Have you ever spoken to a Russian speaking Ukrainian from eastern Ukraine? I have spoken to many and not a single one wanted to be part of Russia. More than anyone, they know the state of the place and what is is.

As for what Israel has done since its entire existence - hmm, shall we examine what Russia has done to Ukraine throughout its entire existence? How far back do you want to go?

Want to talk about the circa 4 million deaths in the 1930s? How about the entire ethnic cleansing of Crimea in the 1940s. Speaking of which, I've heard pro-Palestinians rage about the Nabka in 1948 and the same people say Crimea should be part of Russia because of the 'ethnic Russians' who live there without so much as a bat of an eyelid or any consideration how they got there. (Clue: removing people and replacing them with other people and stealing everything they own)

Or perhaps you'd prefer to stay in the present day to which we can add:

Invasion.
Siege of cities and indiscriminate bombing of civilians with thermobaric weapons.
Destruction of entire cities.
Capture, torture and murder of civilians.
Rape of men, woman and children as young as 4.
Forced enlistment of men from occupied areas to fight against their own country.
Kidnapping of children and erasure of their identity.
Erasure of Ukrainian National identity in occupied areas.
Torture, beheading, castration and murder of POWs and recorded themselves doing it no less.
Illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory (oh yeah, isn't that what Israel is attempting to do in the West Bank and Gaza that's got you so perplexed?).

Iran will take its time in replying. Israel has bitten off more than it can chew.

The sanctions against Israel can't come soon enough. Israel is out of control.

Would it be fair to say what Israel has done is by far worse than Russia.

I'm not condoning Russia by the way.

But the double standards around sanctions is mad.

No it wouldn't be fair to say it. Would you say that if YOUR entire family had been recently burnt to death in their beds or been crushed by rubble from a Russian drone strike?

Perhaps you'd like to pop out for pint of milk in Kherson but can't because some f**king orc will drop a munition from a drone on top of you. Trying to kill everything and anything that moves for over 3 years now.

Tell the uncounted dead buried in mass graves outside Mariupol or still buried, rotting in ruined buildings that what Russia is doing isn't as bad as Gaza.

Russia and Israel are the same. Scum.

I also won't be mourning the Iran military officials wiped out by Israel either. The Iranian military has been helping Russia murder Ukrainian children these past 3 years. Scum.

Your point about sanctions and double standards is valid. Though the Orange Turd can't wait to even things up in that regard.

Yes I agree with all that but is what israels done not multiple times that.

Both are disgraceful countries but what I'm pointing out is the double standards when it comes to sanctions.

No, I wouldn't say that what Israel is doing is 'multiple times' what Russia is doing.

It's difficult to know what the true death toll is in Ukraine, unsurprisingly the Russians aren't providing numbers from occupied Ukraine. Tens of thousands of civilians are thought to have died in the siege of Mariupol alone.

I also regard the death of every single Ukrainian soldier as murder. Every single one of them is an unnecessary death caused by Russia. Probably in the region of 75-100k.

Believe it or not, it is possible to point out western hypocrisy and the horror of that is happening in Gaza without downplaying Ukrainian suffering (whether you meant to or not).

I wasn't trying to downplay Ukrainian suffering at all just trying to point out double standards when it comes to sanctions.

Well I'm in agreement with you on that. Although as I pointed out earlier, Taco might even that up soon enough.

Iran will take its time in replying. Israel has bitten off more than it can chew.

The sanctions against Israel can't come soon enough. Israel is out of control.

Would it be fair to say what Israel has done is by far worse than Russia.

I'm not condoning Russia by the way.

But the double standards around sanctions is mad.

No it wouldn't be fair to say it. Would you say that if YOUR entire family had been recently burnt to death in their beds or been crushed by rubble from a Russian drone strike?

Perhaps you'd like to pop out for pint of milk in Kherson but can't because some f**king orc will drop a munition from a drone on top of you. Trying to kill everything and anything that moves for over 3 years now.

Tell the uncounted dead buried in mass graves outside Mariupol or still buried, rotting in ruined buildings that what Russia is doing isn't as bad as Gaza.

Russia and Israel are the same. Scum.

I also won't be mourning the Iran military officials wiped out by Israel either. The Iranian military has been helping Russia murder Ukrainian children these past 3 years. Scum.

Your point about sanctions and double standards is valid. Though the Orange Turd can't wait to even things up in that regard.

Yes I agree with all that but is what israels done not multiple times that.

Both are disgraceful countries but what I'm pointing out is the double standards when it comes to sanctions.

No, I wouldn't say that what Israel is doing is 'multiple times' what Russia is doing.

It's difficult to know what the true death toll is in Ukraine, unsurprisingly the Russians aren't providing numbers from occupied Ukraine. Tens of thousands of civilians are thought to have died in the siege of Mariupol alone.

I also regard the death of every single Ukrainian soldier as murder. Every single one of them is an unnecessary death caused by Russia. Probably in the region of 75-100k.

Believe it or not, it is possible to point out western hypocrisy and the horror of that is happening in Gaza without downplaying Ukrainian suffering (whether you meant to or not).

Iran will take its time in replying. Israel has bitten off more than it can chew.

The sanctions against Israel can't come soon enough. Israel is out of control.

Would it be fair to say what Israel has done is by far worse than Russia.

I'm not condoning Russia by the way.

But the double standards around sanctions is mad.

No it wouldn't be fair to say it. Would you say that if YOUR entire family had been recently burnt to death in their beds or been crushed by rubble from a Russian drone strike?

Perhaps you'd like to pop out for pint of milk in Kherson but can't because some f**king orc will drop a munition from a drone on top of you. Trying to kill everything and anything that moves for over 3 years now.

Tell the uncounted dead buried in mass graves outside Mariupol or still buried, rotting in ruined buildings that what Russia is doing isn't as bad as Gaza.

Russia and Israel are the same. Scum.

I also won't be mourning the Iran military officials wiped out by Israel either. The Iranian military has been helping Russia murder Ukrainian children these past 3 years. Scum.

Your point about sanctions and double standards is valid. Though the Orange Turd can't wait to even things up in that regard.

Hearing reports from the weekend there from the Naomh Padraig and St. Endas minor game. Young lad from cushendun got a shocking injury in a scuffle. 1 player took his helmet off and threw it over the fence then his brother broke a stick over his head. Heard he needed 18 stitches. Deserves a long ban for that!

Deserves to be charged with assault and go to prison for that.

Stuff like that needs to be treated exactly the same as if done off the playing field.

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.


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Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.

And yet on the immigration debate, the Russian bots are there online for all to see, stirring the pot.

BTW, good to know you're a lot more accommodating when one of 'our own' rapes and/or murders a young girl. The old tribalism again eh?

And there we go again. It's like a form of McCarthyism with you folks. Don't you dare consider us. Don't you dare probe our thoughts. Either get 100% on board with us or you are a witch.

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I'm not telling you that tribalism is right, or just, or better.

But i'm telling you it is real. Very real. And every single person on this earth is guilty of it to some level.

Even you.

Even you.

Oh aye, how is it then that when some young girl is sexually assaulted some people can see past the race of the alleged perpetrators and put it down to them being bad men/boys and others go and burn out the houses of people who had f**k all to do with the attack?

It is tribalism or that fact they those doing the burning out are a bunch of racist knuckledragging morons?

You're a braindead too btw trying to excuse away this shite.