Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2025, 09:34:31 PMQuote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 09:18:22 PMI think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw.Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 08:11:16 PMNeither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 05:42:24 PM2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.
Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.
I do think people don't realise how very few teams have beaten Kerry in championship or Dublin in chamionship. Kerry and Dublin have an aura, many teams are beaten before they go on the field, going back generations.
Let's take leinster teams,with exception Meath very few counties beaten Dubs in 70 years, top counties once or twice in 50 years. Very rare to beat Dubs in leinster final
Wicklow, Carlow, Wexford haven't beaten Dubs in championship in over 70 years.
Longford haven't beaten Dubs in championship in 57 years.
Louth havent beaten Dubs in championship in 52 years.
Offaly haven't beaten Dubs in championship in 43 years.
Westmeath have beaten Dubs twice in championship in 140 yrs.
Laois have beaten Dubs twice in championship in last 70 years.
Kildare have beaten Dubs in championship twice in last 50 years.
Meath have beaten Dubs 9 times and 5 draws in championship in last 40 years.
Laois, Westmeath have never beaten Dubs in leinster final. Kildare have beaten Dubs in leinster final once in last 97 years, that was in 2000. Meath beat Dubs in 7 leinster in 15 years in 80s and 90s.
Nationwide only kerry have good records v Dubs.
Cork have only beaten Dubs twice in championship ever in 1989 and 2010.
Mayo have beaten Dubs 3 times in championship in 2006, 2012, 2021.
Donegal have beaten Dubd twice in championship.
Tyrone have beaten Dubs twice in championship.
Armagh have beaten 3 times in championship.
Derry and Down have beaten Dubs once in championship.
Galway beaten Dubs 3 times in 1933 1934 2024.
Regards kerry again teams rarely beat Kerry in championship.
Donegal have beaten Keery once in championship
Derry Roscommon have never beaten Kerry in championship.
Laois Louth Westmeath have never beaten Kerry in championship
Galway have beaten Kerry in championship once in last 60 years.
Armagh have beaten Twice in championship
Kildare have beaten Kerry once in championship in 97 years.
The counties with best records v Dubs is Meath and Kerry and county with best record in championship v kerry is Down. The one county Kerry has never beaten in championship.
When you look at when county beats Dublin or Kerry it usually one of the greatest performances in their counties history by one of the greatest teams ever to come of that county. Just think of when teams in leinster beat Dubs Offaly in 1982, kildare in 1998, Laois 2003, Westmeath in 2004. Or when teams beat Dubs outside leinster eg Donegal 1992 Derry 1993 Armagh 2002 Tyrone 2005 Mayo 2012. Same with kerry think of kerrys loses in last in 70 years to great Down Galway teams of 60s. Offaly in 70s and 80s. Meath, Tyrone Armagh in 00s.
To beat kerry in championship for any county is rare and wonderful thing, exception is Down. To beat Dublin in championship for any county is rare and wonderful thing, exceptions r Meath and Kerry.