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Any know if the million yo yo's from JP has trickled down to clubs yet ?

I find it very interesting all the debate about Dunsilly.
I wonder what we did before we had it ' yep complain that our County teams were ill prepared etc etc etc.
Is it perfect? -No but it is a dammed sight better than nothing.
It is a long term project and will changes be made -yep.
Do we have the luxury of being able to fund in one go - no but just look back and see what progress has been made.
Hopefully once 4 codes come under one umbrella even more will be made.
Now with gym we move on to next stage - 4G  or better lights ?
It should not be considered for Adult games as not suitable. Schools and underage development games only.

As for Casement that is no longer an Antrim asset.Ulster control that and I suspect we'll not play too many games there.
Lets be honest even if we had 5k supporters at games it will feel empty.
Antrim county teams will continue to play in Corrigan - more politics but that ship has long since sailed.
Is it the right location - no ? but funding was given and that is where games will be.Expect them to receive funds to develop terrace far side any time soon.
When games were held in Ballycastle everyone complained it was yoo windy 🤣
It has larger pitch , better parking for bigger crowds but pitch would be heavy  and exposed at this time of year.
Great to debate but we are where we are and just need to crack on.

Antrim county senior teams will have access to the new Casement for NHL/NFL and championship and possibly the two senior county finals as the optics of the Ulster Council not letting them use it would be very bad, but don't be expected the SA junior B finalists to get a run out there!

Never mentioned they wouldn't have access just that I wouldn't expect them to play many games there .
As usual it will come down to money and control.
In reality playing in 35k seater stadium against Westmeath for example not going to touch sides and even less for some football games.
But only an opinion and maybe SA junior B finalists may suprise us with massive following.

I find it very interesting all the debate about Dunsilly.
I wonder what we did before we had it ' yep complain that our County teams were ill prepared etc etc etc.
Is it perfect? -No but it is a dammed sight better than nothing.
It is a long term project and will changes be made -yep.
Do we have the luxury of being able to fund in one go - no but just look back and see what progress has been made.
Hopefully once 4 codes come under one umbrella even more will be made.
Now with gym we move on to next stage - 4G  or better lights ?
It should not be considered for Adult games as not suitable. Schools and underage development games only.

As for Casement that is no longer an Antrim asset.Ulster control that and I suspect we'll not play too many games there.
Lets be honest even if we had 5k supporters at games it will feel empty.
Antrim county teams will continue to play in Corrigan - more politics but that ship has long since sailed.
Is it the right location - no ? but funding was given and that is where games will be.Expect them to receive funds to develop terrace far side any time soon.
When games were held in Ballycastle everyone complained it was yoo windy 🤣
It has larger pitch , better parking for bigger crowds but pitch would be heavy  and exposed at this time of year.
Great to debate but we are where we are and just need to crack on.

That's shambolic if true.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2022/10/14/news/antrim_u20_management_team_step_down-2861748/

Anyone know what the craic is with u20's championship ?
LGiel beat BCastle last week in a tight game and now it appears that could be the only game played .
Hearing u20 county managers have quit cos of the shambles.
Crazy situation if we are trying to develop young men for senior team and also trying to stop drop off.

There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?

As I said  talented but not a team player and Antrim have to play as a unit to progress.
That is the opinion round the squad too , There are quite a few happier when he is not on the team
He is not the future of our county and if we want to continue to compete we need a structure and style of play all the way through the squads ..
we need to be able to interchange and that can't happen when we shift and rearrange team to suit one player .
Talented but a square peg in this team ....

There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Just read that BBC will be streaming Antrim game against Dublin in league
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/60138856

It is apparent that they used McGurk this year to give run out to U20s in prep for championship later on. The only issue there is that team is weakened by Uni's being able to select eligible county players. Possibly 6-8 missing and maybe more.
I also heard there were some injuries(Bicky and Rian) and some mnssing due to isolation weaking group even further.
Of the starting 15 , 3 of the boys were last years Minors so probably still not 18.
Is that the best way to proceed I'm not sure as we all know you can have all the skill but boys against men is different.
If we have yearly Dev  squads what has happened to Minor team and Celtic challenge teams / players  from those age groups.
We are way short in strength and physicality  to be honest we might struggle to get out of Ulster.
You need a balance between man strength and underlying skill.
No easy answers and in reality probably only 2-3 of this group will end up Senior county players

Anyone out tonight at  match v UUJ  ?
From what I can gather it was the U20 squad minus any of their  Uni players .

Folks - was at schools Mageean game this afternoon and was speaking to BC U15 manager (Ronan Donnelly) .
He confirmed categorically that there was no underage or ineligible player playing for BC this year.
He thinks everyone is referring to his son Matthew so I guess he knows when he was born so I guess that answers that question.
If anyone needs clarification he  confirms he is more than happy to discuss .

On a different matter Bicky McGarry (CPC and Lgeil) confirmed today that is in a different class - some player and one that will be soon involved in Antrim seniors I would think.

Is he one of the pound McGarrys?

Youngest of Enda's boys 👍
Classy hurler and on all accounts a good lad too

Folks - was at schools Mageean game this afternoon and was speaking to BC U15 manager (Ronan Donnelly) .
He confirmed categorically that there was no underage or ineligible player playing for BC this year.
He thinks everyone is referring to his son Matthew so I guess he knows when he was born so I guess that answers that question.
If anyone needs clarification he  confirms he is more than happy to discuss .

On a different matter Bicky McGarry (CPC and Lgeil) confirmed today that is in a different class - some player and one that will be soon involved in Antrim seniors I would think.

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.

NA Gael  I concur the LG won the game on Saturday but the end result was impacted by the sub ,as the ineligible player was involved in 2 of their 3 goals - in the ruck for one and scoring another.
They will as you say be forever tainted and that is why a replay is not the solution .All this would do is to encourage cheating with the hope that you don't get caught and if you do well then at least you will be offered as 2nd bite at the cherry .
Maybe it is a time for a look inwards by some of their club members at their mentors and committee but that is up to them .
No good would come from a replay  as all it could do is create more issues.

As for BC I agree that the they may not want to win the trophy off the pitch but it is not their fault that LG can't abide by county , province and national rules.

IMO  making the competition null and void for 2021 might be the solution but not sure if that is an option.

It does not look good on the county either way that our Grade A U20 championship has turned in to a farce.
Roll on 2022 championship season

No 2 wrongs definitely don't make a rite and if LG have made a mistake/broke rules they should be punished accordingly but that is not the reason bc lost I was at game and their shooting was terrible it would be a better use of time practicing it and they would've had LG beat handy enough
I also heard that bc sounded out their complaint to a couple of respected administrators at other north Antrim clubs to guage opinion and I think they told they were beat fair and square and to raise a complaint about a child beating them was rather petty

The Stig - I agree BC will need to improve their shooting , I believe 14 wides compared to LG 8 so if these had been converted it would have been a level game .
With regard to the complaint I don't believe the onus should be on BC to raise one  as it should the responsibility of Antrim CCC  to ensure the integrity of their competitions but who knows with our county board .
Oversight will be provide by Ulster and Croker if required and it wouldn't be the first time either.

As for the child , and that is what he is , I would be asking if I was an LG sub why would they be putting an ineligible player on in front of me if they 'Believed' in their players

Only an opinion and that is what this board is for and it is good to debate .

I will reiterate again should any other club ,including my own , have broken the rules by fielding ineligible players they should be sanctioned

I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15

Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip

The football scenario is different as both teams played by the same rule ( whether that was right or wrong was what was being questioned)
Here one team broke the age grading rules ( in U20s for Lgiel and possibly in U15s for BC) so a lot  different from the PG issue.
Those age boundaries are there to protect children and are there for a reason.
Wouldn't have been a laughing matter if this young boy in question who was 15 at the start of the year had been injured by a 20 year old man.

CCC need to step up and action this or next years underage tournaments will be carnage
Maybe Ulster need to ensure Antrim maintain the rules ?

Funny enough you weren't as concerned for Conail elliots health when bc played dunloy in the group stages , he is also u16 but I'm guessing since yous won it's not a big deal

Again many wrongs don't make a right - just because Dunloy did doesn't make Lgeil and or BC right in doing so either .

Looks like a lot of clubs , managers , secretaries and possibly chairs will be in trouble with Antrim CCC and receiving bans
You would also have to question what checks Antrim have in place to ensure the integrity of their  underage games.
Ulster will be all over this now :-)
They post often about player welfare but it is appearing to be only lip service

My point is that u don't care about anyone health and safety , all you care about here is LG losing the u20 , don't try bs by saying anything else atleast be able to say that your only concern is us getting thrown out , I'm sure if you wanted to dive deep enough over the past 5 years you could disqualify about 30 teams

Rian only aware of your club  breaking of the rules by playing Jack as it was discussed on the hill at the side of the pitch in Armoy, with regard to Conail or the so far anonymous U11 BC player I wasn't aware  until others kindly and rightly highlighted other breaches on this forum.
You and your club knew that they had broken the rules before , during and after the game and so only have themselves to blame and if that means you are thrown out so be it.
You would be extremely naive in your thinking if you thought that this was not going to be highlighted.

If  BC (my club) broke the rules for U15 they should be sanctioned accordingly