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anyway there may be no club games for foreseeable and championship is in doubt. Do we really want to be in 2 weeks time where Italy is now. Some things ..even div 2 football may not be worth it

Speaking to someone who knows who was speaking to someone who knows, all options are currently being considered re the running off or NOT of the remaining league fixtures. Options include running the remaining fixtures in the Autumn and not running league fixtures that remain with all 2021 league positions based on starting positions in 2020. Just options though, as proceeding as is until situation deteriorates. Hell that would suit fermanagh nicely that option 2 !

Armagh were mighty impressive but I could also tell that Fermanagh were rocked by the 3 big absentees 2 of which appeared to be decided just before throw in. Fermanagh has no depth in the panel really as you all likely know and to lose the captain Donnelly, lose Cullen in the warm up, recent allstar nominee and to lose our current free taker was just devastating for the team. the replacements (and I felt sorry for them was Allen who only ever got Mckenna cup match once or twice 4 years ago and McManus on the frees, just back after a few years out and first start since we played in Athletic grounds in the league 3 or 4 years ago) So yes we had rug pulled from under our feet before match started. Armagh are a jeckyll and hyde team and unfortunately for us we saw their best side on sat nite and that coupled with a nervy unsure fermanagh team led to the awful hammering that resulted. That said, if that isnt the absolute kick up the arse that fermanagh need to produce a reaction in ennis then we deserve to go down.
Frustrating after we started the league playing fantastic football in Newbridge and against the Rossies, just not consistent enough and the panel still just to thinly stretched to sustain such losses in personnel

On a general note here, are we all fooling ourselves into even wanting to go up as realistically it seems there will be a yo-yo going on for a few years.
When you look at the Div 1 games there is a big jump and I for one am nearly glad Kildare don't look to be going anywhere. Chrust when I think what Galway, Dubs, etc would do to us...

It is a mad division mind and I am still very worried but a big win last day for Kildare v Laois where they showed a lot more bite.
Every game is 50/50 at this stage. Ideally Armagh can keep Fermanagh down a bit from my POV and then any kind of result versus Cavan would be welcome.

yes and if Armagh dont so Kildare a favour youz are in trouble, as a very tough run in awaits. We seem do always do well against Armagh on home soil, for a long time now and I can see that continuing

lets not get into a div structure overhaul ....though id you pushed me Id favour 3xgroups of 11 (room for New York too) !!