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See the bould Ronnie got his red suspended or rescinded effectively. Must be great to be mates with Trump and Infantino. Bring back Sepp, all forgiven.

That was really blatant. They need the last Messi v Ronaldo chapter and the rules don't apply.

That said, I'm sure Martinez is privately furious. They are better without him

You are absolutely proud of your ignorance- pointedly refusing to research the case.

You aren't on the level, I'm out.

And around we go.

He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.

CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.

Did you even read the Sunday World article?


Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.

He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public

I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price

Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie

Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie

And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative

He stepped away in July. He never owned the company. So false.

No he wasn't. Your memory is false.

Accepted, but the Dail language is all alledged. They didn't outright say it, but yes, they alluded to it.

He hasn't yet been convicted of the motoring offence. He pled guilty, yes, but there is no guarantees on sentence. He might get a slap on the wrist for a first offence.

So you haven't read the newspaper report, and certainly haven't read the CAB piece. But you rumble on.

I'm out. You are closing a false narrative to justify your prejudices. Facts won't change that.

I see Maria Steen rules out running in the Dublin Central by election.
Iona Institute obviously not going to stump up for a campaign?

She has no interest in actually being a politician. Work involved in running, work involved in being. The whole presidential thing was a stunt

And around we go.

He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.

CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.

Did you even read the Sunday World article?


Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.

He might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.

Not weird at all

2 reasons why it's important

(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.

(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.

If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees

1. If you have information on the arson, ring the Gardai.

2. This is entirely false.

And your conclusion is based on what you know to be a lie. That Trump shite doesn't work here

He might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.

The best possible draw. It was important to avoid Italy. Poor OWC.
Evan Ferguson will be back. Imagine him and Parrott together.

Ferguson is vastly overrated and injury prone.

He is worth 25 million on Transfermarkt
https://www.transfermarkt.de/evan-ferguson/profil/spieler/648046

You might as well be referencing Championship Manager

What about this chap?

From Matt Carty

"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"

So not convicted. And this is in relation to a car crash. Not gangland.

But you seem to be doing your research, which is better late then never.

So we are agreed that the chap in question has no involvement in the company providing the services, has no criminal convictions, admittedly one is pending for a motoring incident and he has nothing to do with the company losing a contract. He is referenced by CAB incidentally in a way any of us could be.

We are moving very quickly from gangsters running IPAS centres, aren't we.

[But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals]

Your,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.

2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know

But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday

And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.

You are allowed to think for yourself.

Trump lover using Trump tactics!

To be clear, there may be something sniffy here. But the facts we have don't add up to a scandal. So the facts have to go.

To be fair to whitey, he is being honest about that. The fact he introduced is now irrelevant because it doesn't say what he wants it to say. That is candour.

They are all beatable. But loseable too.

The Czechs are in dissaray, the Poles are a shadow of themselves, Wales are limited. Slovakia are on paper the team we want, but they are playing above themselves and in form.

Your,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.

2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know

But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

Your,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.

I wonder how much being redacted will cost?