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Discussion in pub last night about the biggest rivalry in Down club football? What's your views?

East vs South

Every club should have two full sized size pitches, and adequate changing room facilities. If you don't then stop criticising the county board.

What kind of clown are you, you have no idea fella.

Clownjim if you want to fund my club go right ahead - Some clubs don't have the support/population to fundraise and raise enough money after they pay their fee's to the county board.. Take your head for a crap

Could McGrath and Poacher work??!

McGrath was roaded from Fermanagh by the players and now Louth. I think time might be over on his inter-county days, would you not prefer someone younger with something to prove??

It'll be changed by next year - one home, one away and one neutral.

Home - Croke Park
Away - Whoever they draw
Nuetral - Páirc Uí Chaoimh or Gaelic Grounds

(In relation to Dublin)

https://mobile.twitter.com/declanbogue/status/1014263494676541440?s=12

Seen this on twitter

McGuiness would have no interest in the Down job, one we couldn't afford him and two we aren't at that level to attract those type of elite level managers

Poacher and Mullholland, the game has moved on from 91/94 its time the county did too.

Saturday

Ros V Armagh - Portlaoise 3pm
Cork v Tyrone - Portlaoise 5pm
Fermanagh vs Kildare - Navan 7pm

Sunday

Laois vs Monaghan - Navan 2pm

The chat on twitter

To be fair to the u20s the referee rode them to Timbuktu and back, all game from not giving a black card and give a throw up when Down player spoke back.. Wind went out of are sails then, Pierce Laverty played very well.. As for seniors, though before the match Donegal would win but played us off the park. Harrison, O'Hare and Mooney didn't stop all day by far are best performers.. Kickouts were atrocious, Turley standing in the middle putting his hand up and not running isn't a strategy, his 2nd last game for Down I'd say.

Many going to the game this weekend?? Anyone know were you'd be able to park?

Donegal by 7 or 8.. Down's shooting has been appalling this year and has really let us down in matches this year, Donegal with McBrearty, Murphy and McHugh will be too much. Match up will probably be McHugh vs Millar and with McHugh driving on expect Millar to be pinned back most of the match.

I'm not anti-development squads by any means.

They clearly serve a purpose in helping players from less-enumerated clubs and non-footballing schools to learn, meet and aspire, by playing amongst the brightest talents from bigger clubs and schools.

But I'm really struggling with the concept that 53 x 13 year-olds are needed for u14 county training on Saturdays, just as the club season is ramping into gear. Dragging players an hour from home to be part of a glorified sportsday isn't going to help anyone.

of those 53 players selected you will find 40/45 make the sessions every given time with hols injuries or something or other coming up. also players will invariably decide its not for them and leave so its a working size which will trim part by choice and then by time 2019 comes round you will invite new lads to trials and if they are stronger than some of the U14 panel the squad will be trimmed again

I get what you're saying, but it still doesn't answer:

- why anyone needs 40/45 players at a training session, and what can possibly be learned from having so many players around?

- what benefit there is for anyone when the 1st and 2nd best talents in the county match up against the 52nd and 53rd?

Depending on the attitude of the 52nd/53rd it could push them on? Training and playing with better players will in turn make them better which IF they continue to play Gaelic to senior level will improve Club football in Down so in turn maybe helping County team

How to stump a save the 8ther - Hypothetical Question


If you could choose only one, would you save 1,000 viable human embryos or one child in a burning building?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

I've seen that smugly posted before - the fact is these sorts of issues have been stumping everyone forever. It does raise interesting points, no doubt, but there are similar questions repealers may find it similarly stumping to answer, like, when does life start, or why they bother to congratulate someone who announces a pregnancy, or indeed commiserate with someone who has a miscarriage?

It seems to me the difference in whether it is a life or not comes down largely to whether it is wanted or not, and that to me seems a very inconsistent position indeed.

What makes us human is our ability to feel pain, and that starts at the 12-14 week milestone in pregnancy from what I have read......

The theories about what 'makes us human' have been postulated on for thousands of years. You've just picked out one characteristic among many for your argument.

Yes just like the pro-lifers pick out there own characteristics?? Its not going to affect a pro-lifers life if the abortions get passed is it? No.. if they are pro-life they won't have one, if a pro-choicer wants the law passed for them to have an abortion then why shouldn't they have it? It's about deciding what you want yourself.

To re work a quote from the Simpsons "Abortions for some and miniature Tri-colours for the rest"

According to Evolutionary genetics what makes us human is our DNA which is formed at conception

That unborn human is unable to communicate their choice but let every other form of life the likelihood is that want to survive

But Mickey is a devote holy joe?! he doesn't believe in evolution, he believes God created the earth and everything that inhabits it.....

I hadn't realised this was purely about you forming an opinion about the issue based on what you believe Mickey Harte believes. But for the record Id guess he does believe in evolution like the Catholic church.

Anyway you can reply to my point anytime 

Just like you can reply to the question I originally posted? Good lad

I wasn't replying to your original question I was merely correcting a subsequent point you made.... but Ok then....

The child, as you can tell for sure if its alive, and the embryos are not in an environment that will allow them to grow. And the latter reason is where if you are using it as an analogy to the abortion debate is where it becomes a false one as a child  in utero is in such an environment.

Now over to you...

You wouldn't because a child is life and embryos are not? Also viable environment - some mothers have inhospitable wombs which the baby won't survive but are being made to go to full term? This is what an abortion is for as it isnt a viable environment. As you have said in your reply they wont survive.

Also the Genes thing, I am looking at it from a moral perspective that if something feels pain then it is alive, in case of 12 weeks cut off the fetus won't feel pain. Some may argue that it should be before the heart forms which I believe is around the 6 weeks milestone(unsure) but in terms of birth complications I don't know if they are visible at that point.

How to stump a save the 8ther - Hypothetical Question


If you could choose only one, would you save 1,000 viable human embryos or one child in a burning building?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

I've seen that smugly posted before - the fact is these sorts of issues have been stumping everyone forever. It does raise interesting points, no doubt, but there are similar questions repealers may find it similarly stumping to answer, like, when does life start, or why they bother to congratulate someone who announces a pregnancy, or indeed commiserate with someone who has a miscarriage?

It seems to me the difference in whether it is a life or not comes down largely to whether it is wanted or not, and that to me seems a very inconsistent position indeed.

What makes us human is our ability to feel pain, and that starts at the 12-14 week milestone in pregnancy from what I have read......

The theories about what 'makes us human' have been postulated on for thousands of years. You've just picked out one characteristic among many for your argument.

Yes just like the pro-lifers pick out there own characteristics?? Its not going to affect a pro-lifers life if the abortions get passed is it? No.. if they are pro-life they won't have one, if a pro-choicer wants the law passed for them to have an abortion then why shouldn't they have it? It's about deciding what you want yourself.

To re work a quote from the Simpsons "Abortions for some and miniature Tri-colours for the rest"

According to Evolutionary genetics what makes us human is our DNA which is formed at conception

That unborn human is unable to communicate their choice but let every other form of life the likelihood is that want to survive

But Mickey is a devote holy joe?! he doesn't believe in evolution, he believes God created the earth and everything that inhabits it.....

I hadn't realised this was purely about you forming an opinion about the issue based on what you believe Mickey Harte believes. But for the record Id guess he does believe in evolution like the Catholic church.

Anyway you can reply to my point anytime 

Just like you can reply to the question I originally posted? Good lad

How to stump a save the 8ther - Hypothetical Question


If you could choose only one, would you save 1,000 viable human embryos or one child in a burning building?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

I've seen that smugly posted before - the fact is these sorts of issues have been stumping everyone forever. It does raise interesting points, no doubt, but there are similar questions repealers may find it similarly stumping to answer, like, when does life start, or why they bother to congratulate someone who announces a pregnancy, or indeed commiserate with someone who has a miscarriage?

It seems to me the difference in whether it is a life or not comes down largely to whether it is wanted or not, and that to me seems a very inconsistent position indeed.

What makes us human is our ability to feel pain, and that starts at the 12-14 week milestone in pregnancy from what I have read......

The theories about what 'makes us human' have been postulated on for thousands of years. You've just picked out one characteristic among many for your argument.

Yes just like the pro-lifers pick out there own characteristics?? Its not going to affect a pro-lifers life if the abortions get passed is it? No.. if they are pro-life they won't have one, if a pro-choicer wants the law passed for them to have an abortion then why shouldn't they have it? It's about deciding what you want yourself.

To re work a quote from the Simpsons "Abortions for some and miniature Tri-colours for the rest"

According to Evolutionary genetics what makes us human is our DNA which is formed at conception

That unborn human is unable to communicate their choice but let every other form of life the likelihood is that want to survive

But Mickey is a devote holy joe?! he doesn't believe in evolution, he believes God created the earth and everything that inhabits it.....