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What is Downs scoring average per game in championship/league compared to Fermanaghs?

Does anyone have comparisons on where they finished/got knocked out in these competitions over past few years also?

Interested to know what the two records look like side by side 

From a Fermanagh point of view I would be confident of a result (always am at this time of year). Line up as follows;

1. Gallagher

2. Goan
3. Lyons
4. Jones

5. Kelly
6. McCluskey
7. T.McElroy

8. McGrath
9. Sherry

10. O'Brien
11. C.McElroy
12. Little

13. Maguire
14. Carson
15. D.Keenan

[Personally think that Ronaldo doesn't contribute as much as people make out]

will united be streets ahead of Madrid if the worlds best player leaves united to join madrid?

Personally i despise Ronaldo's antic/attitude, i would so much more enjoy supporting a this united team if there wasn't this glamour boy image associated with the no7.

But he is the difference so often in matches that even Fergie is prepared to put up with it.  Who in world football would contribute as mch as Ronaldo to this United team.  Messi? I am not sure 1. he would ever sign and 2. he would produce as many goals/assists as Ronaldo.

Could someone not just give him a club on the ear and tell him to wise up

Personally think that Ronaldo doesn't contribute as much as people make out. His assists for a "winger" are poor. If he gets a sight of goals at all, he shoots which is maybe his best/worst attribute in one

Are you serious?  This year he has 18 goals and 6 assists in the PL.  I don't care if he scores or creates, he is responsible or partly responsible for 24 goals.  Compare with 12 goals and 10 assists for lampard, 15 goals and 8 assists for Gerrard and you can see how important he is. He has 26 goals in all competitions, and people are saying he is not at his best.  Shows just how good a player he really is.

Last year, 42 goals and 8 assists.  The man is a goal machine.  He may act like a baby, but he is irreplacable.  I don't think Messi would contribute as much in English football.

Completely serious, Anelka has 17 goals and 6 assists which is running him pretty close. Berbatov has 9 goals and 10 assists yet a large mjority of fans think he has been poor. Don't get me wrong I think he is a good player I just don't think he is as good as he is made out to be. No-one is irreplacable.

Messi this season is on 36 goals (23 league) and 9 assists (5 league), and in my view is the one player currently playing that has the potential to be truly great

will united be streets ahead of Madrid if the worlds best player leaves united to join madrid?

Personally i despise Ronaldo's antic/attitude, i would so much more enjoy supporting a this united team if there wasn't this glamour boy image associated with the no7.

But he is the difference so often in matches that even Fergie is prepared to put up with it.  Who in world football would contribute as mch as Ronaldo to this United team.  Messi? I am not sure 1. he would ever sign and 2. he would produce as many goals/assists as Ronaldo.

Could someone not just give him a club on the ear and tell him to wise up

Personally think that Ronaldo doesn't contribute as much as people make out. His assists for a "winger" are poor. If he gets a sight of goals at all, he shoots which is maybe his best/worst attribute in one

"Niall McGovern - One to watch


By Ciaran Woods

c.woods@gaeliclife.com

His Queen's manager rates him as one of the best around, and Fermanagh county players have backed him to be part of their squad this summer. So who is the Fermanagh man who is grabbing so much attention in the QUB rearguard?

Belcoo's Niall McGovern has enjoyed a rapid rise to prominence over recent weeks, making the Queen's number three shirt his own. This Sunday he will put the shackles on Armagh's Ronan Clarke in the McKenna Cup, having already turned in an impressive display against Cavan last weekend. He's tipped for the very top by all those who have worked with him, and it seems almost a certainty that he will be a senior inter-county player before too long.

As a man who has been there and done that at the very highest level, including picking up an All-Ireland winners medal, Queen's boss O'Rourke is well placed to run the rule over the Belcoo man, and he is in no doubt about his capabilities.

"To me, he's a starting inter-county full-back, it's as simple as that. He's a top quality player."

McGovern has exploded onto the colleges scene this season, starring in each of Queens' Ryan Cup ties and has followed that up with an impressive start in the McKenna Cup against Cavan last Saturday night. Although admitting that he knew nothing of the player, O'Rourke says he has now firmly cemented his position at the heart of the Queen's defence.

"To be honest, I didn't know anything about the lad until he arrived at trials at the start of the year. Nobody at Queen's knew anything about him, and then this big lad showed up and was brilliant, right from day one.

"He went in for the first Ryan Cup game and hasn't looked back. We'd put him in at corner-back because we knew nothing about him, with Luke Howard at full-back. But he quickly made the move to full-back for us and he's been fantastic."

Like his Queen's boss, McGovern is a commanding figure in the back line. He gives his opponents few chances, and O'Rourke is impressed with what he has seen so far.

"He's very fast, and he's got great hands. Teams don't tend to test you too much in the air, but any time a high ball goes in, he comes out with it. He's got a great head on him, technically a very good tackler. A big focus of our game is how we play defensively, and he attacks the ball well when the time is right and gets in the right positions when it's not."

This Sunday, McGovern will again line out in the number three shirt for Queen's, and the Fermanagh man faces up to one of the toughest tests possible in the form of Armagh's Ronan Clarke. O'Rourke has played alongside and against Clarke enough times to appreciate his quality, and believes that it's the perfect test for the rookie full-back as he continues to build towards the Sigerson Cup and what he believes will be a summer in Fermanagh colours for McGovern.

"Sunday will be a massive test for him, and if he can handle Ronan Clarke, who is probably the best full-forward in the country, then the signs are good for what he can achieve.

"I'm sure that Fermanagh are keeping an eye on him and that they're aware of what he's doing. I think it's only a matter of time before you see him in Fermanagh senior colours."

What makes McGovern's rise to prominence all the more impressive is the fact that he has only just bounced back from a potentially career-threatening injury. In 2007 he played just two league games for the Belcoo club before damaging his cruciate ligament, causing him to miss the remainder of the 2007 season and returned in time for the 2008 campaign.

John Joe Stewart was manager of the Belcoo minors who, including McGovern, claimed the league and championship title. He went on to take charge of the club senior side, delivering the league title in 2007. Although McGovern missed that season through injury, he saw enough of the defender to know his capabilities and his versatility.

"He was impressive all year for the seniors. His preferred position I would say is centre-half, that's where I would have planned to play him. In the middle of the season we had to put him to full-back because our full-back got injured, but he moved back out the field for the rest of the year again."

"He's a lad who if he does get a chance then he'll grab it with both hands. He dedicates himself to his football and to his training. He doesn't mess around, and when he was out injured he put in serious hard work to get himself back.

"He's a player you'd definitely look forward to seeing more of in the future. I think that if he can keep himself injury-free and can keep on improving, then he's got a very bright future ahead of him."

McGovern's leadership qualities certainly cannot be questioned. Before making the move to Queen's, he was joint captain of the St Michael's Enniskillen MacRory Cup side. He has been a key player throughout his club career, and those who play alongside him are glowing in their praise of the defender.

One such colleague is Fermanagh's attacking ace Shane McCabe. A Belcoo club colleague, McCabe admits that running into McGovern is a daunting experience for any forward, the defender having worked hard to ensure that he's in the best possible condition for the challenges he faces.

"He's got tremendous strength. I'd have went up against him in training a few times, and he's the wrong boy to be running into! He reminds me very much of Barry Owens. He's very strong and powerful on the ball, and once he has possession he's not going to be knocked off the ball.

"He knows his own limitations. If he feels that he's not going to distribute it well enough, then he'll play a simple pass and offload it to one of his team-mates.

"He missed out for us when we won the league title, and he was sorely missed. I think he showed last season that he's a very good player, he's back in the fold and I think he's got a very big season ahead of him."

McCabe was part of the Fermanagh squad which took on Armagh in last year's Ulster final, and he knows just how tough of opponents the Orchard men are. It's never easy lining out against the likes of Ronan Clarke, especially when you're a relative newcomer to the scene as McGovern is, but McCabe is backing his clubmate to handle anything that is thrown at him, and emerge as a better player as a result.

"Those are the type of challenges you want. He's come strong again since his injury, and games against inter-county teams like Cavan and especially Armagh are what will bring him on as a player. They will add to his experience, and I think he'll be a much better player with a more complete game as a result."

McGovern will certainly be part of boss Darren Chapman's plans for the Fermanagh Under-21's in the coming months, but McCabe firmly believes that come championship time the defender will also find himself as part of the Fermanagh senior set-up. And if Malachy O'Rourke needs the Belcoo man's phone number to invite him into the panel, then McCabe will be only too happy to oblige.

"One thing about Fermanagh, because of the size of the county, is that you have to get your best players in. Malachy will be up to date with how Niall is getting on with Queen's. He's got the ability and the mentality, he's got the whole package there and I'm sure we'll soon be seeing him lining out with Fermanagh."

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"He's got tremendous strength. I'd have went up against him in training a few times, and he's the wrong boy to be running into! He reminds me very much of Barry Owens. He's very strong and powerful on the ball, and once he has possession he's not going to be knocked off the ball.
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Any chance of posting the article?

Got ya, have seen him play a couple of times. Good player but I got the impression that he was not interested in the training etc required at county level? He would definitely be a welcome addition especially if Murphy missing is true.
On the others mentioned, who i have seen enough to pass comment; Killie is a good player although a bit similar to what we have in my opinion. Is he a better or much different proposal than whats there?
Keenan has undoubted potential but rather than being injury prone, I'd say he has a wee bit of filling out to do which would serve him well. Seen him for St Mic's & Tempo and some challenges were dubious to say the least, maybe needs to move the ball quicker?

Who is blobby?

Not been native means that when I get home to see games, I know names but not nicknames  

Fermpundit, where you at it? I haven't been chatting anyone who was there yet, who were the standouts for Coa?
They have a few decent players but whether they are good enough for a try at county level would be debatable. Any thoughts?

I heard Coa beat Augher well in the Ulster Junior Club today

www. hotwire.com was pretty decent for me a while back.

Also Chelsea Hotel was pretty reasonable. Slightly south of centre but easy to walk/commute from and to

Personally can't see past St Pats, but have only seen them once this year. Is there any injuries etc for either side?

First thing I would ask, are they hard contact lenses or soft contacts? When I first got mine, I tried the hard sort for a week and they had me crying constantly! The soft ones were/are much better.
Generally as far as putting them in goes, I hold the bottle lid with my ring finger, top lid with my index finger and put the contact on the tip of my middle finger (hows that for detail! )
The newer types of lenses that can be worn day & night (optional, I don't wear them when sleeping) are very breathable and comfortable. Make sure the optician is giving you a few different options (daily, weekly, day & nights etc) so you know which is best for you.
My last piece of advice, is when you get using them a while and have a set that suit you, buy them online (postoptics etc), as you will save a fortune if you wear them a lot

Hope that helps

Personally from a Fermanagh point of view I would say McCluskey would be the most deserving

Well Done Kildare, can't see you getting any further but where the better of two terrible performances on the day. The first game of the Ulster Final seems to have ripped the confidence & morale of the Fermanagh lads to shreds. I honestly don't know what to say about that torture that everyone witnessed yesterday.
As everyone seen, we were nearly averaging a wide a minute at the start and with each one, the level of fight ebbed away a wee bit more. From dominating midfield and the breaking ball in the first 20mins, we absolutely gave it up for the next 50. I can't/don't believe its ability at this stage, it has become a mental crutch with Fermanagh where if we hear it often enough it must be true.
Quite simply they stopped enjoying the game and doing the simple things right