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Youse are being very harsh on the lad. Far too much expected of him.

What age is James Darcy?

It was calm enough but would have foundered you.

I honestly believe Heffo is making up things to try and back up his argument. There usually is some late returns probably from clubs outside of Ireland that are distributed late in the week to each of the counties. I'd be surprised if there was too many for this final but could have been a few.

There is no way there was 7000 and absolutely no way there was double that. I think Heffo was arguing that Mayo got them all originally but he's now saying the Dubs got some too so no idea exactly what is point is.

Heffo is well able to speak for himself but he has been around here along time and never before been anything but 100% straight.

[Ulster IFC]

Ulster IFC

Preliminary Round 16/10/16

Donegal (Milford, Naomh Brid, Aodh Ruadh, Naomh Ultan, Burt, Cloughaneely, Naomh Columba, Naomh Naul) v Down (An Riocht, Bredagh)

Quarter Finals 30/10/16

Tyrone (Pomeroy, Eskra, Derrylaughan, Aghaloo) v Cavan (Arva, Killinkere)
Derry (Castledawson, Steelstown, Slaughtmanus, Foreglen, Craigbane) v Armagh
Antrim (Dunloy, Aghagallon) v Fermanagh (Tempo, Kinawley)
Monaghan (Rockcorry, Inniskeen, Currin, Donaghmoyne, Emyvale)  v Donegal/Down

Ulster JFC

Preliminary Round 16/10/16

Tyrone v Antrim (Glenravel, St Comgall's)

Quarter Finals 30/10/16

Monaghan (Blackhill, Toome, Sean McDermott's, Clones) v Armagh
Derry v Donegal
Fermanagh (Belnaleck, Aughadrumsee) v Down (Drumgath, St Michael's, Teconnaught)
Cavan (Ballymachugh, Cornefean) v Tyrone/Antrim

Any updates to this?

Tyrone IFC & JFC Finals next weekend
JFC - Rock v Tattyreagh
IFC - Pomeroy v Derrylaughan/Aghaloo

Anybody fill in any of the gaps above?

Q-Finals in Junior and Intermediate in Tyrone this weekend should clear the picture up a bit. Both very open and hard to call.

When and where is Derrytresk - Stewartstown replay?

Eglish, Saturday 2pm

I was listening to newstalk off the ball this evening - they where really pushing the Tyrone and the dark arts theme again - was it that bad? Thought it was a strange angle on an intriguing game.

Its just the standard now at this stage.
Tyrone certainly did get in the face of Aidan o'se, and if they want to criticise that, i have no problem with that, but i dont know how you can single Tyrone out for the 'dark arts' when Lee Keegan spent the whole game trying to get Cavanagh the line.
Personally i dont like it, from either Tyrone or anyone else, but there are alot of pundits out there who need to either accept it as part of the game, or else or call all teams and players out for it, not just Tyrone & Donegal.

Bullshit. I was at the match. Coming out for the second half, Cavanagh shouldered into the back of Keegan as he had his back turned. Keegan reacted and grabbed his shirt, Cavanagh pulled him down on top of him and Keegan kept a hold on him. The opposite was what was going on, Cavanagh wanted Keegan sent off as he had him tucked in his back pocket and it was the only card, excuse the pun, Cavanagh had left to play. Gough gave him a chance from another tackle before he finally got his second yellow. The second yellow was probably unlucky as I think he was trying to hit the ball, but you put yourself in that situation, that's what happens.
"keegan" instigated it, is the same tired owl shite that the Dubs come out with every time Diarmuid Connolly loses the head with how annoying Keegan can be as a man marker who just wont go away. Some of these boys can give it, but they just cant take it.

There was an incident before that in the first half where keegan was grappling with cavanagh and actually had him by the leg and had it lifted up waist height. This happen right in front of the linesman, but again the referee went ove rand warned both players, instead of dealing with keegan.
Like i said, I dont deny Tyrone were at the same sort of stuff with O'se, but lets not try and pretend it doesnt go on with all teams, and especially in this game from keegan.
ull keegan down on top of him' Keegan had cavangh pFrom what i seen of the one at HT cavanagh didnt pinned to the floor by the neck.

Correct, there was an incident before half time where Keegan had his leg in front of linesman. But are you trying to say he just randomly caught a hold of Cavanaghs leg? No he bloody well didn't. Again it was Cavanagh who couldn't handle the fact that Keegan was never more then an inch away and tried to side him out of the way but Keegan was having none of it.

Same after ht .... as others have highlighted, Cavanagh shouldered Keegan in the back - unprovoked.

So could someone actually pick out something illegal that Keegan instigated .... Or else just tell precious Sean and Saint Mickey to shut up and take their medicine

Lads don't be making stuff up to suit your narrative. In the first half Keegan went at Cavanagh out on the sideline no more than 10 yards from the linesman. He was spoken too and was very lucky to avoid a booking for it.

Who is the Donegal selector constantly running on to the pitch, seen him say a few words to the both sets of players and the ref? was standing literally next to the ref when he sent off Connolly.

Maxi Curran, he covers some distance during a game! He shouldnt be on the pitch anywhere near as much as he is and its a recipe for a row some day.

Dunno what non-Mayo people make of him on the pitch, but I have to say Lee Keegan is one of the nicest lads you could ever meet.

Is he developing a reputation as a man who tries to get his man sent off? I am thinking of Connolly last year more than Cavanagh yesterday as I did not see the start of that incident?

Having just thrown some mud there I though he came across as civil in the post match interview on TSG last night.

People get far too caught up in the on field persona of players. We all know players even at club level who are as sound as a pound but once they cross the whitewash are a different animal. Its much the same at inter county and probably much more magnified given the stakes involved.

can any one explain what tyrone last free was for . O shea was clearly push to the ground when he went down on it . It game Morgan a free straight in front of the goal , but  being stupid or fannying around with the ball killing time,legally, is no excuse for a wrong decision that would have changed the result of the game

I didnt think it was a push, O'Shea played for a free and didnt get it. One of the Mayo lads then touched the ball on the ground and threw it away. Throwing the ball away probably won the game for Mayo as the ref moved it forward and Tyrone wasted a good minute bringing the keeper up to take it.

[According to Al Brogan on twitter McCarthy is goosed for the year, no matter him taking part in warm ups. As for the controversies, Dermo didn't deserve his first yellow as yer man was at him from before the whistle. Doesn't excuse the stupidity for making the second challenge, knowing he was on a yellow, so he had to go.]

I was very nervy before this game, glad we got it over with. I really think all the chopping and changing in defence is effecting us right through out the team - we are not creating or converting goal chances at the same rate as previous years - though Connolly should have bagged a brace.

According to Al Brogan on twitter McCarthy is goosed for the year, no matter him taking part in warm ups. As for the controversies, Dermo didn't deserve his first yellow as yer man was at him from before the whistle. Doesn't excuse the stupidity for making the second challenge, knowing he was on a yellow, so he had to go.

O'Gara's sending off was a complete joke as Mcgee had nothing on his mind but annoyance as soon as he came on the pitch. Honestly, what is a player meant to do? Ten years ago against Laois, Darren Rooney was at the same craic against Alan Brogan - instead of striking, Brogan pointed at the score board - and thus the legend of the sledging Dubs was born. If O'Gara is going to be sent off for a tap, after basically being assaulted as soon as he got on the pitch, then the game is up for attackers.

For me, the dirtiest blow struck all day was Murphy's - not because I think he is a dirty player, but I think Donegal thought they needed to be revved up and extra physical to win. The carelessness of the challenge was incredible - he could have done awful damage. Fortunately for Murphy, the Dubs didn't react in the way the Donegal lads did after Connolly's challenge, otherwise it could have (should have) been straight red.

It was a pity to see Donegal like that - they are not a patch on the 2014 version, which gave the benchmark cerebral performance against us - there was real thought in that game, didn't seem to be much in this one. Talking to a few Donegal lads after and they reckon Murphy has been injured all year and given no real chance to recover. Interesting to compare how Rory O'Carroll can feel he can take a year off, whilst Murphy (same age) has to be retread constantly. Not fair on such a great player, but I suppose given Donegal's panel depth, that is the way it is going to be. If I was the Donegal management team I'd be saying to Murphy see you next May - don't bother about the league, just recharge over the winter.

ET,

Your well off the mark with that one. The number 15 was marking Connolly and giving him plenty of belts etc away from play but it was the number 5 McHugh who was booked at the same time as Connolly. I thought it was a case of mistaken identidy until seeing it again. McHugh went to run past Connolly to support the play and was pulled back and wrestled to the ground by Connolly, it could just as easily have been a black as a yellow. He did the same with Lacey a few minutes before hand. It was obviously something the Dublin forwards had been instructed to do as any time a deep lying Donegal player went to make a run out to support the play he was either blocked off or pulled back.

All the talk about Dublin's advantages etc but having watched them on Saturday they are an exceptionally well coached team.

Peter Harte is some footballer, absolutely outstanding.
If Tyrone had a free taker they'd be through.
Fair play to Mayo though ground it out.

Sean Cavanagh STARTED on Keegan coming out after half time and they both got a yellow

The second yellow for Cavanagh was probably deserved, although O'Shea's antics where once again disappointing but it's simply not true to say that Cavanagh started the bother before the second half began. Keegan was at it all the way through the first half and the linesman stood and watched it and did nothing about it.

Better team on the day won although Tyrone kicked themselves out of it. For those lamenting about the ref I thought he was excellent and most of all consistent. Mayo's tackling was very poor and they where penalised for it but not fully punished as the lack of a good free taker came back to haunt Tyrone.

Yeah it was a good well times shoulder by Monroe though was surprised McGlynn was injured after it. (was his dad not Raymond Munroe with a u not an o)?

What did ye think of McCann's tackle from behind on the edge of the square that time?
At the time I thought it was a penalty but the ref wasn't giving out any more soft frees at that time.

Both where frees, Munroe's timing was very slightly off and it caught McGlynn more on the back than the shoulder, but by that stage the ref had stopped giving frees inside the 45's. Even the first of the two long range ones he awarded to Donegal he moved it a further 5 yards back from where it should have been.

What was it for then?

Verbals to the umpire

I think the verbals thing is a load of bollocks. McShane ran off.

Aye, he was no where near any umpire, pure skitter.

Coldrick wasn't great today but to be fair to him the game has became almost impossible to referee.

Two game changing moments for me, Monroe's hit on McGlynn which I thought was a free and when Lacey was in for a point and floated a ball inside only for I think Cavanagh to manage to break the ball away and save a certain goal.

Cavanagh was immense in the second half but at times he hinders Tyrone by taking too much out of the ball. Brennan has to start.