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Or, and hear me out here... People could stop pissing their panties about Dublin and realise that this won't last forever. Sure they have inbuilt advantages and will probably win the majority of all Irelands but other strong teams will come that will break the monopoly. Splitting Dublin in two means you'll just have two Dublin teams to dominate the game.

Go back to bed and put your nappy on before you do! We have a Celtic of Scottish football problem here. No one is going to get close. No one. This is not the old inter county football. This is professional.

f**k me man chat about nappys. Ye had the better of them loads of times recently but shit the togs when it mattered. And tbh ye weren't great apart from the games against them. 2016 we should have beat ye and ye should have beat them.

Tyrone are an average good team and we hand out hidings regularly. Stop panicking every time the best team in the country do the same. They will be beat.

I would agree with this.
A lot of money/resources has been pumped into Dublin hurling, yet they can't make an overnight success of themselves.
Kerry, Meath, Galway and Monaghan are the minor teams in the AISF lineup.
Kildare won the U20s.

This Dublin team has now got into a habit of winning and is a once in a generation team/management. Galway had their chances yesterday, like many teams before, didn't take them. Dublin took theirs and won.

Documentary/Film on RTE now on John Hume in America.
Narrated by Liam Neeson

The World Cup has not been kind to United with the performances of their players being very ordinary, which is what Utd looked like last year.

Based on WC:
De Gea - Very average
Young - Steady/reliable/boring
Smalling/Mata/Herrera - didn't even make it to WC
Jones/Martial/Rashford - Couldn't get starting for their national team
Lingard - Just exactly what does he do on a football field, apart from waste chances?
Matic - Steady/Boring
Lukaku - Very poor form especially in big matches
Fellaini - had a good enough world cup, but only makes a mark when brought on as an impact sub.
Teams seem to be able to deal with him when he starts.
Rojo - Part of a disaster of an Argentina side. Being touted as part of the deal to bring Maguire to OT, so can't be that well thought of.

Two players at teams who didn't make it to the WC -  Bailly (constantly injured) and Sanchez (shocking loss of form)

IMO, only Pogba looked anything like a world class player at the tournament.

And now, the great white hype of the English media, Maguire, is set to join them for 80m!

2018/19 looking very boring already; where is the spark going to come from? - I hope I'm wrong.

What's your point?  Personally I'd be happier if no United player kicked a ball at the WC so they are fresh for the new season.

My point is simply that it was a poor world cup for United players.

Good luck with winning anything if you would be happy with a team made up of fresh sub international standard players!

So you base your opinion on how players perform in a cup competition with different players in different positions and when they didn't even play? Interesting

Stop the press! Man gives opinion on a discussion board on Utd players performances at The World Cup,
by.....assessing how they performed at the World Cup!
Sweet Melinda!

The World Cup has not been kind to United with the performances of their players being very ordinary, which is what Utd looked like last year.

Based on WC:
De Gea - Very average
Young - Steady/reliable/boring
Smalling/Mata/Herrera - didn't even make it to WC
Jones/Martial/Rashford - Couldn't get starting for their national team
Lingard - Just exactly what does he do on a football field, apart from waste chances?
Matic - Steady/Boring
Lukaku - Very poor form especially in big matches
Fellaini - had a good enough world cup, but only makes a mark when brought on as an impact sub.
Teams seem to be able to deal with him when he starts.
Rojo - Part of a disaster of an Argentina side. Being touted as part of the deal to bring Maguire to OT, so can't be that well thought of.

Two players at teams who didn't make it to the WC -  Bailly (constantly injured) and Sanchez (shocking loss of form)

IMO, only Pogba looked anything like a world class player at the tournament.

And now, the great white hype of the English media, Maguire, is set to join them for 80m!

2018/19 looking very boring already; where is the spark going to come from? - I hope I'm wrong.

What's your point?  Personally I'd be happier if no United player kicked a ball at the WC so they are fresh for the new season.

My point is simply that it was a poor world cup for United players.

Good luck with winning anything if you would be happy with a team made up of fresh sub international standard players!

The World Cup has not been kind to United with the performances of their players being very ordi

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That's the season over now before it starts...

Someone hand the cup to Man City

That's not what I am saying at all.

Frankly watching Utd play atm bores the arse off me.
I would usually defend Mourinho but now I am starting to wonder is his management having an effect on these players?
There is no doubting the talent of, eg, Lingard and Rashford but they seem lost on a pitch, fitting in to the system.

At the WC, did we see the Mourinho effect with how these players performed?

Remember how Damien Duff used to play for Blackburn? He was electric, and his performances got him the move to Chelsea.
His wings were cut, he slotted into a defensive style of play under Mourinho and for me, he was never the same player after, at club or country level.
Granted,  he got his premiership medals, and performed to a very high standard but his play was nowhere near as exciting, just, well, normal.

nary, which is what Utd looked like last year.

Based on WC:
De Gea - Very average
Young - Steady/reliable/boring
Smalling/Mata/Herrera - didn't even make it to WC
Jones/Martial/Rashford - Couldn't get starting for their national team
Lingard - Just exactly what does he do on a football field, apart from waste chances?
Matic - Steady/Boring
Lukaku - Very poor form especially in big matches
Fellaini - had a good enough world cup, but only makes a mark when brought on as an impact sub.
Teams seem to be able to deal with him when he starts.
Rojo - Part of a disaster of an Argentina side. Being touted as part of the deal to bring Maguire to OT, so can't be that well thought of.

Two players at teams who didn't make it to the WC -  Bailly (constantly injured) and Sanchez (shocking loss of form)

IMO, only Pogba looked anything like a world class player at the tournament.

And now, the great white hype of the English media, Maguire, is set to join them for 80m!

2018/19 looking very boring already; where is the spark going to come from? - I hope I'm wrong.

Jesus.miserable as f**k

Agreed.

Any truth in the Maguire rumours? Could be a new most expensive defender mistake in the world

fixed that for you

You'd be better off going for bonucci and throwing darnian in a deal plus cash. Let the dust settle on this outrageous price they're looking for Maguire. Taking the biscuit.

Agreed

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That's the season over now before it starts...

Someone hand the cup to Man City

That's not what I am saying at all.

Frankly watching Utd play atm bores the arse off me.
I would usually defend Mourinho but now I am starting to wonder is his management having an effect on these players?
There is no doubting the talent of, eg, Lingard and Rashford but they seem lost on a pitch, fitting in to the system.

At the WC, did we see the Mourinho effect with how these players performed?

Remember how Damien Duff used to play for Blackburn? He was electric, and his performances got him the move to Chelsea.
His wings were cut, he slotted into a defensive style of play under Mourinho and for me, he was never the same player after, at club or country level.
Granted,  he got his premiership medals, and performed to a very high standard but his play was nowhere near as exciting, just, well, normal.

The World Cup has not been kind to United with the performances of their players being very ordinary, which is what Utd looked like last year.

Based on WC:
De Gea - Very average
Young - Steady/reliable/boring
Smalling/Mata/Herrera - didn't even make it to WC
Jones/Martial/Rashford - Couldn't get starting for their national team
Lingard - Just exactly what does he do on a football field, apart from waste chances?
Matic - Steady/Boring
Lukaku - Very poor form especially in big matches
Fellaini - had a good enough world cup, but only makes a mark when brought on as an impact sub.
Teams seem to be able to deal with him when he starts.
Rojo - Part of a disaster of an Argentina side. Being touted as part of the deal to bring Maguire to OT, so can't be that well thought of.

Two players at teams who didn't make it to the WC -  Bailly (constantly injured) and Sanchez (shocking loss of form)

IMO, only Pogba looked anything like a world class player at the tournament.

And now, the great white hype of the English media, Maguire, is set to join them for 80m!

2018/19 looking very boring already; where is the spark going to come from? - I hope I'm wrong.

Soccer people doing a charity soccer thing in memory of a soccer player  in a soccer pitch.
Fair play to them.
Nothing to do with the GAA.

God, you are a joke.

And those hiding behind 'rule changes' as if this problem hasn't been flagged for years are equally a joke. You can't pretend it's an unforeseen situation and you're simply beholdent to some other organisation with no responsibility for that decision. If there was a will at the top this wouldn't even be a question.

People like the Cork County Board (aka Frank 'Job for Life' Murphy) just don't give enough of a shît to do something.

Plus, isn't it a fundraiser for Liam Miller's family? Not much goodwill or compassion to be seen here.

At the recent U14 All Ireland Feile, the games between the evenly matched teams were the most enjoyable, not only for the spectators but the players.
You can see it in the players that they are more up for a game, run more, try more, when they know they are playing a team at their level.
There's nothing worse for morale at that age than taking a real hiding by a superior team.
I know that that feeling doesn't leave you as you grow older.

That long way to Tipp was a British army song from WW1.
The annual knuckledragging hatefest in full swing.

Interesting to know - thanks

And so is the song "The Curragh of Kildare"

And straight I will repair - didn't know that either.
The song that Magowan upped the tempo on and produced 'White City'

That long way to Tipp was a British army song from WW1.
The annual knuckledragging hatefest in full swing.

Interesting to know - thanks

Was out in the garden there tonight and you could hear the pipe bands.
They were playing 'Its a Long Way to Tipperary' which I thought was strange,
Although the next tune sounded awful like 'Off to Dublin in the Green' - maybe its my hearing.

I'm not saying we have the best facilities in Down be we are up there and tbh the majority of the best facilities are within 10 miles from Burren(Bridge, Saval,Shamrocks, Clonduff, Kilcoo).

I'm saying take a look through the leagues in Down, look at every club and say is their house in order?
Are your members working hard enough?
It's easy to fundraise and get money. People will always be generous with money.

Good volunteers who spend upteem hours at the pitches cleaning, cutting , coaching, meeting. They are the cornerstone of our association.

So can we stop the yapping about county boards  unless you can look at yourself and say I do enough.
This small club mantra is shite as well, you can be small in membership but you can still create top class facilities for our kids. Entice the kids to your clubs first, then Down will change.

You dont have much knowledge of a small club. They are small because off the small population or nationalist population they have to pick from. Burren kilcoo bridge clonduff are all in strong nationalist well populated areas. A club like aghaderg for example does well to survive considering its location and the fact it has traditionally lost players to tullylish annaclone glenn etc in the past and to also have a hurling team. These clubs are small for a reason. And their volunteers are every bit as committed as those in the big clubs.

Great post.

I'm not saying we have the best facilities in Down be we are up there and tbh the majority of the best facilities are within 10 miles from Burren(Bridge, Saval,Shamrocks, Clonduff, Kilcoo).

I'm saying take a look through the leagues in Down, look at every club and say is their house in order?
Are your members working hard enough?
It's easy to fundraise and get money. People will always be generous with money.

Good volunteers who spend upteem hours at the pitches cleaning, cutting , coaching, meeting. They are the cornerstone of our association.

So can we stop the yapping about county boards  unless you can look at yourself and say I do enough.
This small club mantra is shite as well, you can be small in membership but you can still create top class facilities for our kids. Entice the kids to your clubs first, then Down will change.

You are taking the speck out of other clubs' eyes before you take the log out of your own Jim.
Look at the clubs you named and we can look at the starting lineup for Down/Cavan and the number of players from these fine examples of structure and facilities:
Burren - 1
Mayobridge -0
Saval - 0
Shamrocks - 0
Clonduff - 1
Kilcoo - 1

A total of 3! Thank you for helping to prove my point. It isn't the small clubs that you look down on who are the issue in Down, its the large clubs who are killing the county.
Facilities help attract players and help nurture talent, but if players are being lost and not developed to senior level properly by these big clubs, then whats the point?

You should be banned from this board after that post. Take a look at division one and the SFC champions since 1980 please

Away and chase yourself.
Please take a wee dip into the present if you could and stop reminiscing.
This is the worst position that Down football has been in, in my lifetime.
If you, as part of one of the biggest clubs in the county, can't afford some introspection to see if you can be part of the solution, well that arrogance is the root of the problem.