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Jesus wept !  He was  a football manager not the messiah.On that note not as good a manager as some would like to portray. 

753 games      won 393    Lost 175  Draw 185    win% 52%

at game 1 of that stat, liverpool were a poor second division outfit amoung several northern clubs all vying for mediocrity.
By game 753 there were arguably one of the biggest clubs in the uk with a fearsome reputation throughout europe.
He really laid the foundations for Paisley and all managers that followed him to build their success upon and truned the club and the city into a source of pride.
Sometimes numbers just don't tell the whole story

[Declan Ronaldson]

It will be Tommy Lyons with Denis Kearney and Declan Ronaldson  .

F*ck no! I had the "pleasure" of being managed by him for two years and he ain't up to much!
I also heard James Horan's proposed backroom trio, a bit underwhelmed to be honest.

been a bit harsh on the shrule man there, had a few seaons of his exposure myself and found him to be at the least a good trainer and motivator in the dressing room. His downfall was really due to lack of tactics and ability to make quick changes, plus having to deal with the brothers mort

I wonder if James has done enough tonight to take the hot seat. Is an intermediate title and a possible senior one enough to tip the scales. Based on yesterdays game it looks as if he can devise a strategy to deal with the opposition. What is the feeling of his club mates, delighted for him if he's chosen or gutted to lose him from the club ?

I was talking to a co player at the weekend and he was shaking his head in disbelief at what was going on.

Did said county player shake his head in disbelief at what went on last year. Is he of the opinion that a new manager could actually lead the 2011 version to worse championship results than 2010. Are some of our players of the opinion that they are a sought after bunch that Mickey Harte would abondon Tyrone for ever if they glanced favourabely in his direction ?

I hope Lyons gets it.
Just to get him off the telly.

pity someone didn't nominate brolly in that case

so the County Final will be between two mentioned candidates for the big job - Forde v Horan, both have done very impressive work.

Yet our Board won't be turning to either. I'm sure James will be given a chance elsewhere and be lost to Mayo as many others were.

how can you be so sure that horan will not get the nod. The interviews have to take place yet. The best way to console yourself would be to take advantage of the generous 1/8 odds being given on Lyons since he is such a sure thing.
Are you also 100% sure that no advances were ever made to forde

I think someone said this on a previous post on this thread but we really are getting our just reward for what we did to Mickey Moran and John Morrison...I wonder what do they think of the current goings on?!

m & m were barely on speaking terms at the end of the 2006 all ireland and there was no guarantee that their second year ( they said they would only do two due to the travel involved) would still be a double act. In the mean time some guy who had won a few all irelands became available and the cb had to act. I believe firmly that the players dragged themselves to that ai final through shear will and were let down by m&m in the final. I have often heard it said that senior players approached m&m on the led up about handling donaghy and the response was to worry about it on the day. A few months later in the a railway cup game in ballyforan, jom played a sweeper in front of donaghy. I think conn. won that game

I would imagine that the prospective new manager would have to had given their ideas on there team in terms of physical fitness coaches and who they would bring onboard. If shrule beat ballintubber on sunday and go on to win the title, then mortimer will have a more impressive cv that horan or mcgarry. Maybe there'll be a late runner in the race. By all accounts Mcgarry has been quiet impressive, anyone know exactly where he is based. Is it in the midlands somewhere.
I think your right moysider, the idea of a 09 or 10 panel is a non starter. I would hope that whoever comes in get 60 or 80 guys out in trial matches and works from there. Reputations (what an irony) should could for nothing.
I fear however that the cailbre of player may not be available. Will be interesting to see how many of the players on show this weekend could give the midfield of  aidan walsh & murphy a cleaning, or have the ability to keep clarke or coulter in their back pocket and feed them on farts.
One thing is for sure, next years summer outings cannot possibly be as poor as last years fair.

I'll try my best to get this thread to the magic 100 mark.
Anyway, you never know how managers and players will take to each other and what they can achieve. Big joe and Galway looked like a perfect match and that was a disaster in many ways. If tommy can spoof the players into believing they can beat any team and play with passion and drive, I'll be more than happy. The ground work can be carried out for Maurice Horan to then take the reigns after guiding Limerick to there first munster title in donkeys years

What club nominated Tommy Lyons?

ultimately, if Lyons is the pick of the bunch the delegates can reject him like Banty in Monaghan
then the process can continue until someone is ratified. I think the board did say at the beginning of the process that they would seek names also. Remember that Maughan was nominated but had to be contacted by the chairman I believe to get his hat in the ring.
I hope all the runners will be in castlebar over the weekend to run the eye over the 120 or so players on parade

We expect to compete for all irelands based on a tradition from 60 years ago. Most managers ultimately  end in failure and sadly for us it's inglouriously failure.

What about 1996? Was that 60 years ago?  Mayo are in the doldrums but they won't be forever.
Look at Galway . Totally out of it in the 80s and then came around and won 2 all-Irelands.

Tt

Galway had a class manager for those all irelands!!!
You must remember that we also went a decade without a provential title either.
89, 96, 97, 04, 06; tradition of failure, 25 years without minor success either

The clubs did and still do have a say, they were asked to nominate people for the position, the delegates decided that micko was not the answer and they will have the final say in ratifying the proposal of the committee. As for the committe itself, well you have the outgoing and incoming chairmen, the treasure ( as the cost is a huge factor ) and two others nominated by the delegates.  Everyone has there own opinion but the process is not all spoke and mirrors plus this is how gaa hq declare the process should be carried out - remember the cork football strike.
Mayo football is at a low and whoever the new manager will be should be commended and support for taking on a thankless task. We expect to compete for all irelands based on a tradition from 60 years ago. Most managers ultimately  end in failure and sadly for us it's inglouriously failure.

Apologies, i also forgot to mention that the treasurer, south board chairman, and president all hail from the great south mayo club, you really should be putting pressure on this guys to get your man (whoever you believe) in the dreaded hot seat

Its a farce, our outgoing chairman has proclaimed the clubs wanted a mayo man. Sorry, they said they wanted a man from  inside the county James. The spin has begun that this was the clubs choice. A committee was formed the other night with 5 men, this consisted of three executive members so therefore no matter what the other two want they have no say. The committee have not met up yet, however the chairman and John Maughan have a chat, John is gone. The decision is made, clubs had no input into it,the three executive members made the decision.

Now we have a chance, go back to your clubs demand a club meeting and get your delegates to stop this CB decision. They could do it in Meath, now is the time for us to stand up to the County Board for once and for all.

Redol, one of your fellow club mates is on the interviewing commitee, have you spoken to him. Better still, when the club have this years AGM, you get get someone to propose you as the club delegate.