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A really disappointing season for all involved with Armagh, no doubt including supporters, players and management. I think most supporters realise where mistakes were made and are hopeful that changes can be made for next season (I.e. A more attacking game plan).

I think our season capitulated after 10 minutes of the Donegal match. However, in hindsight, division 3 was masking poor performances against tipp, Louth, Fermanagh and Sligo.

We have better players than Tyrone, down, Derry and a much more committed panel than Tyrone & Derry - with a few tweaks we can move on next season

Surely the (supposed) teams will be named tonight??

Really disappointing that Justin McMahon has lowered himself to the standard of Tyrone's other cheating scum bags (on the pitch anyway) such as Jordan, gormley, Dooher and the cavanaghs.

Tyrone really have nothing up front although mcaliskey kicked a few nice points

Midfield shouldn't be an area of concern as we should have enough to compete well here. Findon to go up against Gallagher (should take a lot from last years QF) with rafferty / Campbell there as well.

Moriarty is suspended and he would probably have picked up McFadden. My concern would be defence as Mallon and Murray are considerably smaller / lighter than mcbrearty and McFadden. Murphy spent most of today's match around the half forward line and I would assume Vermont will follow him

Arsehole

This match was shown again on TG4 recently and I can remember thinking how sh*te both teams were

Surely nobody actually believes mckeever has been dropped?

Hopefully we can start to blend morgan, donaghy, toner, o'hanlon, Mcparland and possibly murnin into the team as the league goes on

Best of luck to him

Full credit to him for his statement

No obvious choice to replace him although I would imagine both geoghegan & Harney will get at least a couple of league games each.

I can't understand why the Armagh v St Marys game is taking place tonight when all others have been called off. If Armagh win tonight, derry (for example) would know what winning margin they would have to achieve on sunday to overtake Armagh and, therefore, secure a semi final place in front of armagh.

Whilst this is 'only' the McKenna cup, I would suspect that if tyrone were to exit the competition in such a way that legal proceedings would be imminent?

I would imagine Big Joe won't be too happy. I would be happy enough with the team and am really looking forward to seeing Morgan, Findon and Ethan Rafferty in particular. I'm not quite sure what role Vernon will be playing - I can't see him playing full back after some of his performances there this year and he hasn't proved himself anywhere else. Perhaps this could be the day he delivers on a big(gish) stage.

Freetaking must be a bit of a worry. Will Ethan Rafferty take all left footed frees or will they be shared out with Jamie? There doesn't like many options for right footed frees - McVerry?

[He has a few shrewd men with him too.]

I see Joe Brolly has convinced many that Grimley hasn't a clue. He is not the greatest manager ever but is far from a fool. He has a few shrewd men with him too.

Who all is in the management team:
Grimley, McGeeney, McQuillan, McDonnell, Hollywood are the ones I am aware of but who are the others?

It's hardly a midfielder mayo need. They badly need a centre half back / centre half forward though

Caolan Rafferty wouldn't be a cert in the HF line???
All of the HF line are pretty much nailed on, along with two of the FFs.  It'll be Clarke and Campbell plus AN Other.
Dyas is the best playmaker we have, Rafferty the best ball carrier and TK has done enough over the league to justify a starting spot.

I would definitely agree with this. In an ideal world I would like to see McParland as well. However, Forker is ahead of mcconville / mcverry / tasker / carragher at this stage.

[IMVHO Dyas is stil flattering to percieve]

Gona take a wild stab at the Armagh team, however, choosing 15 from the 19 current outfield players who are fit shall be quite a task

McEvoy
Morgan
Donaghy
Mallon
Kernan
McKeever
Shields
Harold
E. Rafferty
C. Raffert
Dyas
Kernan
Clarke
Forker
Campbell/Carragher


Which leaves the bench cosisting of Vernon, Toner, Moriorty, Campbell/Carragher, McCooey, B.Mallon

Take out Dyas and replace with Charlie and i'd be happy.... Was a big critic of Campbell until this league and he puts in a serious work rate and believe he will come good muchos.....IMVHO Dyas is stil flattering to percieve -- if you watch him track back he cannot put in a meaningful tackle and gives the ball away in 40% of his possession (Fact)....

Lets not forget Paul McKeown and from the above list i'd like to say that going fwd we need Harold and Rafferty (the bowler) to forge a partnership that I can see blooming for years ---we may have to lose a few matches but see this as being a young potential midfield that will develop for years to come............

I see a lot of potential in this team.............. Lets play .............. if we lose we lose but build a focus for the next 5 years and grow as a unit.............. The backbone is strong if we can build it up... Lots of talent all over the pitch but we need to gain expereince and strength............. 2 to 3 lean years perhaps and then BOOM times again

Forget about CV at 11. At least Dyas is flattering!

I don't want to contradict myself here as i believe we will beat Cavan but there is a fine line in management when a game is close and introducing a sub or a positional change can swing it either your way or for the opposition but when a team has consistently thrown away games over a certain period under different managers then surly more responsibility should be placed on the players and not the management. I don't believe Grimley is a bad manager (yes he's made a few mistakes but who hasn't) and he'll get it right this year but if not does that mean all managers from JK stood down were useless???.

My own club has gone through something similar where we have been poor over the last 5-7 years and there has been 4 or 5 different managers in place and according to our supporters they've all been useless but no one ever takes time to think maybe we're just not good enough any more and the players are just not there...maybe the managers in the past weren't so bad afterall...

Fair point. Do you mind me asking who your club are?