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No - they were paid automatically.

I'd say that's absolutely the case with Nolan & his source.

I would imagine there is a fair chance other political parties as well as vacant buildings / dormant companies etc who have a rateable value will have received payments - that's the nature of the scheme & the speed at which it was setup.

The issue boils back to why they weren't paid back sooner as they'll absolutely have known the funds have been received in error.

In fairness they had no say in receiving the money as it was distributed by LPS based on a rateable value.

The issue as I'd see it, is that it took until yesterday to repay the money as they'll have no doubt noted the income over the last 6 months.

I fully appreciate demand Vs supply - but are you aware of an issue or are you just guessing?


So we lockdown - suppress the virus - ease pressure on NHS & that's us?

Then when it spikes again early next year we do the same & repeat until a vaccine is found?

Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of people go out of work / hundreds of thousands of children miss out on education / same numbers of kids miss out on the social interaction of GAA / thousands of men & women miss out on the same social interaction of the GAA & other outlets!

I don't see where you are going with the "guessing" remark.

I simply state that anyone who favours a let it rip strategy or a lock up the elderly and let it rip otherwise needs to spell out the deal for health workers. They will be critical. The experience to date is that PPE offers no guarantee of protection and supply lines have been patchy when the pressure is on. Granted there is a longer lead in time this time.

Kids are not currently missing out of school in any significant numbers. There seems to be a determination to keep that way with a broad consensus.

Kids GAA isn't cancelled everywhere. And doesn't need to be. It will also have a natural break over the winter.

The other things you mention you are going to have to sit tight on for a while.

I haven't heard shortages of  PPE being flagged across any platforms - I merely asked if you have some first hand knowledge of this as it was absolutely one of the first items flagged up at the beginning of the pandemic.

We will have to agree to disagree on the "let it rip" I certainly don't advocate anything like that, I would much rather the vast percentage of the population adhered to the guidance & prevented a lockdown as I'd fear the consequences of another lockdown would be irreversible for many people - I found myself today phoning a well known construction contractor and warning that if his two van loads of 6 men continued to travel in the same vans to a nearby construction site & pop into the local shop with no masks I'll be phoning the police - that is not me but this cannot continue as I said above I fear what another lockdown will do on wider society

Off course we don't let it rip - we all have personal accountability to adhere to the guidance man!

If you can hand on heart state you've done so over the course of this period then your a better man than I but Jesus Mary & Joseph now is the time to limit your movements to suppress the virus!

I fully appreciate demand Vs supply - but are you aware of an issue or are you just guessing?


So we lockdown - suppress the virus - ease pressure on NHS & that's us?

Then when it spikes again early next year we do the same & repeat until a vaccine is found?

Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of people go out of work / hundreds of thousands of children miss out on education / same numbers of kids miss out on the social interaction of GAA / thousands of men & women miss out on the same social interaction of the GAA & other outlets!

I'd be totally against another lockdown - it's a vicious circle as the virus is just being suppressed - once the country reopens it's still there & history repeats itself.

What's the old saying - The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results

What's you message for health workers?

Just rely on PPE and it's ongoing supply? If the PPE isn't there during the shift just walk out?

Is there an issue with PPE? Hadn't seen any recent coverage citing supply issues?

I'd be totally against another lockdown - it's a vicious circle as the virus is just being suppressed - once the country reopens it's still there & history repeats itself.

What's the old saying - The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results

I just cannot fathom how these guys are not getting it - there is stories of breaches running wild in dozens of counties - why they push the boundaries given the situation we find ourselves in is mind blowing.

Bronco made two points:

Style of play by MFelt - I just alluded to recent examples of other teams - it's unfair to say that's a reflection of the County situation.

Retirees - They've retired a few years & with the exception of Gilligan were seeing less & less game time.

Derry club football & the top 4 / 5 would rank highly in Ulster - it would be again unfair to suggest otherwise

Slaughtneil when they went on the first of their 4 in a row played a similar style? Gweedore similar style / Kilcoo similar style

Are you saying the standard of Derry club football is not as competitive in Ulster - Gilligan / Muldoon & Bradley are all either 40 or over 40 in Enda's case - outstanding players but hardly seen to their greatest in the last 3 / 4 years

I just wouldn't accept that Derry club football has regressed in the overall standards in the province.

Just my opinion based on watching games over the last few years. The quality has decreased, the defensive tactics have increased to an extent that the current champions play a style you'd expect from a relegation battling side. Throw in the fact that brilliant footballers like Gilligan,Muldoon, Bradley, etc have retired and apart from McGuigan there's very little sign of similarly talented players to replace them.

Interested to hear how you feel Derry club football has regressed?

Agree on best teams in all 3 finals which is quite rare.

Interested to hear how you feel Derry club football has regressed?

Tyrone gaa issued over 500 tickets when capacity was supposed to be 400! And then let people pay in !

Therein lies the problem - just god forbid a case was tracked back to the stadium there would be so many people unaccounted for in track & trace.

Will supporters now be discouraged from attending games in the north if outside their postcode with the new measures coming into play from tomorrow evening.